Value of: Calgary Guys

Not a Flames fan but as a hockey fan living in Calgary obviously keep a pulse on the team.
Just wondering what Flames fan expect for a couple of guys (Gaudreau and Gio).

I think Calgary should try and get a center for Gaudreau. They may like a more established one but what about McMichael?
Thinking McMichael + Vrana (for cap) for Gaudreau.
Calgary may need to retain to make cap work

As for Gio I think there are alot of teams looking to add. Winnipeg, Carolina and Boston all pop out to me. Honestly I think a 2nd or maybe a conditional 1st would be a good get.

 

I would think the Jets could use Gio. They are maybe 1 top 4 dman away from being a serious contender.

 

Jets need RHD, not LHD.... thanks, but no thanks

 

Vrana is a pretty good player. I don't love McMichael, but I'd do it for Vrana.

 

Vrana was just a healthy scratch.

 

I think that’s one of the first Gaudreau trade scenarios that doesn’t make my eyes bleed.

 

For Gio I'd agree with a couple of early picks maybe do 2nd + 2nd(both are conditional on the acquiring team making it past tge 2nd round)

As for Gaudreau, unless Calgary can improve the core/future core, i think they'll let him walk

And for a person who lives in Calgary, i would love to know when the ownership finally agreed to pay a player who doesn't play for Calgary, cause that's been their stance on retention since Hart bought in.

 

Can we interest you in some garbage we put together good sir?

 

value of everyone on the team: lowest its ever been.

 

pretty much

 

true but will it be any higher before Johnny's contract is up? Same with Gio. It maybe selling low but it would be selling low and getting cap space.

 

I still don't see any reason to get rid of Gaudreau. Trading him makes us even more mediocre. Honestly he'd be the last forward on the roster I'd be interested in trading.

 

well Brouwer's buy out is still on the books. As is stone's though he was re-signed after buyout last year (still so odd). by ya in a retention deal I do not think the Flames have done it.

 

I love Gio and want to give him the best shot at a cup but realistically any non-competitive team wouldn't need him and any competitive team would have serious trouble adding his 6.75 for next season without taking any cap back. I'm not sure we'll be able to trade him for even a 2nd without retention or taking a cap dump back. I feel like the best we can do is 2nd+short term cap dump (Giordano for Mathieu Perrault+2nd is prob the best deal I've seen) or 3rd+prospect. Would any team beat those offers without sending us a cap dump who is under contract for next season?

 

Buy out is different than retaining on a player, buyout obviously means it wasn't working out(Calgary bought out Stone during Bennett's arbitration, therefore the rules didn't apply to the regular buyout window) and they wouldn't retain on Iggy or Dion or Neal, its not changing until Hart changes his mind on it(im pretty sure it's him who doesn't want to retain/not saying its a fact that it's him)

Just the organization will not retain in any trade until they do it, fans have to realize that's how the Flames have been and will be until they do it in an actual trade

 

i agree with you that the Flames have seemed very reluctant to do it, but I wonder how many other teams have never retained on contracts when dealing players.

 

What would the ask be for Mathew tkachuk.

 

Poehling + Tatar for Johnny

 

To be fair one top 4 guy just puts the Jets into the mix with a bunch of other teams.....but doesn’t make us favourites or serious contenders. Jets need two top 4 guys IMO to be serious contenders in the NHL and that just isn’t realistic to get at the TDL so that’s why I would pass on all top 4 guys this TDL. If I wanted to add anything it would be a lower cost guy nothing more.

 

Point being? There have been times when Tkachuk should have been a healthy scratch. Dube and Anderson were healthy scratched. Vrana is a good player.

 

From what team?

 

Gawdin and Ryan for Suzuki.

 

Nothing to say but has Gio really dropped off that much? A year or two ago we'd be talking moving like 2 1sts + more. Also do you like Brodie leaving has had something to do with his play?

 

He seems to be struggling. Just in general what are Calgary needs and what is expected return.

 

Keep in mind he has a $9 million qualifying offer due after next season.