Prospect Info: Cale Makar - D [4th Overall] Part III: Not A Prospect Edition

[a mangy Meowth]

If you guys could pick one perfect partner to pair with Makar, who is it?

For me it’s Slavin. Hedman’s better, but I just think Slavin suits him better.

Drew Doughty

 

[Cousin Eddie]

 

[McMetal]

Not to take away from Q. Hughes, who is and will be an insanely good superstar defenseman, but Makar is just a little bit better.

 

[Balthazar]

Not to take away from Q. Hughes, who is and will be an insanely good superstar defenseman, but Makar is just a little bit better.

We'll see how journalists vote.

 

[henchman21]

Not to take away from Q. Hughes, who is and will be an insanely good superstar defenseman, but Makar is just a little bit better.

Wherever people fall in that opinion is irrelevant. Calder isn't about who is the better player or who will be the better player. It is the best rookie season. The two best players in the world didn't win the Calder. Nor did any of the current top ~30 defensemen. If Hughes wins, it doesn't mean he will be better. If Makar wins, it doesn't mean he will be better.

 

[McMetal]

Wherever people fall in that opinion is irrelevant. Calder isn't about who is the better player or who will be the better player. It is the best rookie season. The two best players in the world didn't win the Calder. Nor did any of the current top ~30 defensemen. If Hughes wins, it doesn't mean he will be better. If Makar wins, it doesn't mean he will be better.

True, but that isn't exactly what I said. And I feel like it's splitting hairs to say that it's not the best player who wins, it's who had the best rookie season. Unless someone's rookie season is drastically cut short by an injury, a la McDavid, they're kind of one and the same thing, no?

 

[henchman21]

True, but that isn't exactly what I said. And I feel like it's splitting hairs to say that it's not the best player who wins, it's who had the best rookie season. Unless someone's rookie season is drastically cut short by an injury, a la McDavid, they're kind of one and the same thing, no?

No I wouldn't agree at all. Many better players have lost the award.

 

[McMetal]

No I wouldn't agree at all. Many better players have lost the award.

What do you mean by that though? Do you mean "players who would go on to become better than the player that won the Calder"? Or "the better player the season the Calder was awarded, without regard for who would eventually have the better career"? Because I'm talking about the second one.

 

[henchman21]

What do you mean by that though? Do you mean "players who would go on to become better than the player that won the Calder"? Or "the better player the season the Calder was awarded, without regard for who would eventually have the better career"? Because I'm talking about the second one.

Better in the season they were awarded. Many factors come into play, but it is frequently a stats award... and the best stats isn't always the best player.

 

[McMetal]

Better in the season they were awarded. Many factors come into play, but it is frequently a stats award... and the best stats isn't always the best player.

What are some examples recently where that's the case? The last time I can think of where the Calder definitely should have gone to somebody else was the year Ekblad won it, but even then he didn't outscore Gaudreau and Stone, so it wasn't based on numbers. Politics surely enters into the NHL awards, too, so maybe that's what you mean.

 

[henchman21]

What are some examples recently where that's the case? The last time I can think of where the Calder definitely should have gone to somebody else was the year Ekblad won it, but even then he didn't outscore Gaudreau and Stone, so it wasn't based on numbers. Politics surely enters into the NHL awards, too, so maybe that's what you mean.

Bread, Ekblad, Landy, Myers (Tavares was 5th....)... sometimes they get the best player... sometimes they don’t.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah I was glad Landy won but I thought RNH was far superior in 11/12.

I’m still pissy over Raycroft swiping it from Michael Ryder in 03 or 04 (it was one of the two).

 

[WhatTheDuck]

If any of you are interested in watching Makar's final junior game, it's going to be live streamed tonight, starts in just under 20 mins from now.

COUGARS TO LIVE-STREAM 2017 CHAMPIONSHIP THIS EVENING | OJHL Cobourg Cougars

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Just going to post some Makar Gifs because I saw this thread resurface.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Wherever people fall in that opinion is irrelevant. Calder isn't about who is the better player or who will be the better player. It is the best rookie season. The two best players in the world didn't win the Calder. Nor did any of the current top ~30 defensemen. If Hughes wins, it doesn't mean he will be better. If Makar wins, it doesn't mean he will be better.

Andrew Raycroft has a Calder.

 

[The Kingslayer]

What are some examples recently where that's the case? The last time I can think of where the Calder definitely should have gone to somebody else was the year Ekblad won it, but even then he didn't outscore Gaudreau and Stone, so it wasn't based on numbers. Politics surely enters into the NHL awards, too, so maybe that's what you mean.

I think Zetterberg should have won over Jackman. I was pretty pissed off that night.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Andrew Raycroft has a Calder.

Horse shit. Ryder got robbed.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Andrew Raycroft has a Calder.

I always forget he was good for like that one year lol.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I always forget he was good for like that one year lol.

I remember telling my B's friends the Habs were going to expose Raycroft in the playoffs that yr haha.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Horse shit. Ryder got robbed.

Ryder.Robbed. Theres a joke in here somewhere....

 

[Ararana]

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It's kind of funny how many times Makar has the puck in the slot and the defender is on his ass.

 

[The Kingslayer]

If you guys could pick one perfect partner to pair with Makar, who is it?

For me it’s Slavin. Hedman’s better, but I just think Slavin suits him better.

Slavin is a stud dman. Its too bad more people don't see this. Its also equally sad that he was in the Avs backyard and they didn't draft him.

 

[henchman21]

Slavin is a stud dman. Its too bad more people don't see this. Its also equally sad that he was in the Avs backyard and they didn't draft him.

Avs actually rarely draft local... Slavin Bros, Shore Bros, Terry, Carlo, Foote Bros, Lemieux, Bishop, Jones Bros, Turgeon, Hawkey, Olofsson, Gambrell, etc. Plenty of talent has filtered through Colorado and the Avs basically steer clear (except Clurman and Stastny)

 

[The Kingslayer]

Avs actually rarely draft local... Slavin Bros, Shore Bros, Terry, Carlo, Foote Bros, Lemieux, Bishop, Jones Bros, Turgeon, Hawkey, Olofsson, Gambrell, etc. Plenty of talent has filtered through Colorado and the Avs basically steer clear (except Clurman and Stastny)

Seems odd. Some good players to be had there outside the 1st round.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Avs actually rarely draft local... Slavin Bros, Shore Bros, Terry, Carlo, Foote Bros, Lemieux, Bishop, Jones Bros, Turgeon, Hawkey, Olofsson, Gambrell, etc. Plenty of talent has filtered through Colorado and the Avs basically steer clear (except Clurman and Stastny)

I’ve also been expecting Cale Morris to sign two years in a row now and it just isn’t going to happen.