Prospect Info: Cale Fleury

[26Mats]

John Lu has it Kulak-Fleury on page 3 of the GDT.

Either way, Fleury is getting a looooong look.

But if he's not with Kulak that says a lot about who CJ thinks will eventually emerge as the winner of the rd spot next to kulak.

 

[Paddyjack]

Lol, Bergevin asked that he changes his number 83 for 20 : "he doesn't like big numbers"....
Cale Fleury obligé de changer de numéro - TVA Sports

 

[Stive Morgan]

Just heard the news. Very, very proud of Cale.

Chalk up another NHL player for Stive Morgan

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Lol, Bergevin asked that he changes his number 83 for 20 : "he doesn't like big numbers"....
Cale Fleury obligé de changer de numéro - TVA Sports

83 was an assigned number.....MB isn't making him do anything against his will.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Lol, Bergevin asked that he changes his number 83 for 20 : "he doesn't like big numbers"....
Cale Fleury obligé de changer de numéro - TVA Sports

So he accepted to be GM of the team that has most small numbers retired

 

[Paddyjack]

83 was an assigned number.....MB isn't making him do anything against his will.

Still, if the kid liked the number because it was part of his success, he may have wanted to keep it. According to the article, it does look like it but MB wanted something else

 

[peate]

Whole family will be in attendance to see the brothers play.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Still, if the kid liked the number because it was part of his success, he may have wanted to keep it. According to the article, it does look like it but MB wanted something else

Fleury does not care and this is not an issue. If anything Fleury would be happy as numbers like 83 are given to players who are not expected to play in the NHL.

This is common practice in the NHL and doesn't need to be added to the anti MB narrative.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

#20 I like it and I like this young man.....I’ve seen him a couple of times and like Jacques Laperriere used to say “the good NHL d-men are the ones you don’t even notice where on the ice”

I don’t want to overdue it but this kid could be an Adam Foote type D.

 

[yianik]

Big Pete Mahovlich's number, dont think anybody else notewortht has worn that jersey. Cmon Cale.

 

[Runner77]

Fleury does not care and this is not an issue. If anything Fleury would be happy as numbers like 83 are given to players who are not expected to play in the NHL.

This is common practice in the NHL and doesn't need to be added to the anti MB narrative.

It’s common practice for GMs to pick jersey numbers for rookies? Is that a fact, never heard of that before now.

 

[The Great Weal]

I love how people say "it's not a big deal". Well to us it isn't, but it definitely is a big deal for Bergevin if the reports are true.

 

[cujo1117]

its just a jersey number chill out lol

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

It’s common practice for GMs to pick jersey numbers for rookies? Is that a fact, never heard of that before now.

Yes, it is common practice for the team to pick the number. It is also common practice on this board for a select group of posters to blame everything on Bergevin. Truly the equivalent of the Flat Earth Society on this board.

 

[Runner77]

Yes, it is common practice for the team to pick the number.

Ha, never noticed before. I wonder why most teams would entertain the idea of doing this? Why would they care, seems like a very inconsequential thing.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Ha, never noticed before. I wonder why most teams would entertain the idea of doing this? Why would they care, seems like a very inconsequential thing.

Just seems to be a right of passage and many rookies change their number in following years. Fleury could have requested a number but it is considered taboo for an unproven rookie to demand a number. This doesn't tend to apply to high profile prospects as they often end up with their preferred number. I am sure the teams will make an effort to try and give players their previously worn numbers but Cale was #4 as a junior which is clearly a non option. He wore 38 in Laval which is where the 83 probably came from. I suspect 20 is just a relatively low number that happened to be available and I doubt Fleury is remotely bothered by this arbitrary decision. Certainly not a topic that should be a cause for criticism unless of course certain posters are more interested in their quasi political agenda than they are in actual critical analysis.

If he doesn't like #20 then he will have to earn the right to change it.

 

[Runner77]

Just seems to be a right of passage and many rookies change their number in following years. Fleury could have requested a number but it is considered taboo for an unproven rookie to demand a number. This doesn't tend to apply to high profile prospects as they often end up with their preferred number. I am sure the teams will make an effort to try and give players their previously worn numbers but Cale was #4 as a junior which is clearly a non option. He wore 38 in Laval which is where the 83 probably came from. I suspect 20 is just a relatively low number that happened to be available and I doubt Fleury is remotely bothered by this arbitrary decision.

You must mean a rite of passage.

Sounds like a remnant discretionary option that may have been passed down from the days of cigar-chomping, fedora wearing, crusty owners and their executioner GMs. Yet there are GMs who probably don't even care about such a thing and there are probably a good number.

Would have preferred to see Fleury get a number that had not been worn recently. I just find it a tad annoying when a new player is sporting a jersey that used to be filled by another player until as recently as last season, when that number had been identified with the prior player over several years.

There ought to be a little distance between the time such a number is re-assigned just so that you get the impression of a new beginning for the new player who adorns it. But hey, first world problems, right?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

You must mean a rite of passage.

Sounds like a remnant discretionary option that may have been passed down from the days of cigar-chomping, fedora wearing, crusty owners and their executioner GMs. Yet there are GMs who probably don't even care about such a thing and there are probably a good number.

Would have preferred to see Fleury get a number that had not been worn recently. I just find it a tad annoying when a new player is sporting a jersey that used to be filled by another player until as recently as last season, when that number had been identified with the prior player over several years.

There ought to be a little distance between the time such a number is re-assigned just so that you get the impression of a new beginning for the new player who adorns it. But hey, first world problems, right?

Good catch!

Yeah it is an old school practice and is certainly at the discretion of coaches/gm's and potentially team leaders. Just don't think it is a discussion worth having when the players don't even care.

 

[Runner77]

Good catch!

Yeah it is an old school practice and is certainly at the discretion of coaches/gm's and potentially team leaders. Just don't think it is a discussion worth having when the players don't even care.

It's a discussion worth having for those who did not know about the practice. One of those trivia tidbits you can conjure up at a party.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Ha, never noticed before. I wonder why most teams would entertain the idea of doing this? Why would they care, seems like a very inconsequential thing.

Rookies also have to sit down when they pee. Bergevin ain't never wanna see no rookies standing when they pee.

 

[Runner77]

Rookies also have to sit down when they pee. Bergevin ain't never wanna see no rookies standing when they pee.

I doubt he's inclined to do that considering how absorbed he is with his biceps challenge.

 

[DangerDave]

Just seems to be a right of passage and many rookies change their number in following years. Fleury could have requested a number but it is considered taboo for an unproven rookie to demand a number. This doesn't tend to apply to high profile prospects as they often end up with their preferred number. I am sure the teams will make an effort to try and give players their previously worn numbers but Cale was #4 as a junior which is clearly a non option. He wore 38 in Laval which is where the 83 probably came from. I suspect 20 is just a relatively low number that happened to be available and I doubt Fleury is remotely bothered by this arbitrary decision. Certainly not a topic that should be a cause for criticism unless of course certain posters are more interested in their quasi political agenda than they are in actual critical analysis.

If he doesn't like #20 then he will have to earn the right to change it.

Said he used to wear 20 in AAA.

I agree with you on the whole number thing. Who the hell chooses 83 lol? Clearly assigned to him or the best of the rest I suppose.

 

[DangerDave]

You must mean a rite of passage.

Sounds like a remnant discretionary option that may have been passed down from the days of cigar-chomping, fedora wearing, crusty owners and their executioner GMs. Yet there are GMs who probably don't even care about such a thing and there are probably a good number.

Would have preferred to see Fleury get a number that had not been worn recently. I just find it a tad annoying when a new player is sporting a jersey that used to be filled by another player until as recently as last season, when that number had been identified with the prior player over several years.

There ought to be a little distance between the time such a number is re-assigned just so that you get the impression of a new beginning for the new player who adorns it. But hey, first world problems, right?

When half the numbers are retired and you're given the option between 14 and 83, you choose 14 lol.

Not really a fan of this number retiring tbh. I guess some numbers like 9 should be reserved but most of the other ones should be up for grabs

 

[Paddyjack]

Yes, it is common practice for the team to pick the number. It is also common practice on this board for a select group of posters to blame everything on Bergevin. Truly the equivalent of the Flat Earth Society on this board.

Well, see, interestingly I'm not a MB basher here although I will criticize him if I feel he deserves it. And in this case, I just didn't like the idea of a GM (MB or anybody else) asking a kid to switch for not other reason that "I don't like big numbers". So don't categorize me just based on one comment, thank you very much and have a good day.

 

[Paddyjack]

Btw, I will add another comment on this. I remember one instance of this occuring and it was Joe Sakic. I was living in Quebec city in those days so Sakic was the big thing there and in his debut, he wanted to wear a big number, something like 91. But the coach, Michel Bergeron maybe, said "I want you to wear #19 because I think you could be our Steve Yzerman, showing the same leadership and skills". That at least for me, is a valid reason.