Why the negativity? Finland won the championship and Hepo was good and still people are whining about it? I know it is Finnish mentality to downplay succes and then cheer when things go badly but this is getting embarrasing
Congratulations, you listed me ice times and still proved nothing lol.
It isn't really worth my time when to debate you when you're complaining about how much ice time a player gets when he contributed to your team winning a gold medal. Enjoy being incompetentCan't really help if you are completely unable to connect any dots no matter how much data is being presented now can I?
While yes this is true. Hepo was expected to make an impact in this tournament as a 19 year old compared to 17 year old kakko. So I think he’s saying he’s the best player today. I also agree Kakko will be pretty handily better than Hepo.
It isn't really worth my time when to debate you when you're complaining about how much ice time a player gets when he contributed to your team winning a gold medal. Enjoy being incompetent
The context here is that you have your knickers in a twist over the amount of ice time Heponiemi logged during the tournamentAnd here I was thinking you had trouble only with connecting the dots - when there's only so much I can do for you there. Yet it seems not only that, but you cannot even provide any contextual value to the discussion itself. At least you seem capable of reading the scoring charts and understand what a golden goal means, so maybe there's hope for you yet (unless you just googled a few days old headline)!
nice try tho 
The context here is that you have your knickers in a twist over the amount of ice time Heponiemi logged during the tournament
Its great that you're able to comprehend basic math but you cant seem to comprehend that the original context here was you whining and complaining about Heponiemi getting more ice time than Kakko and not really proving anything other than showing ice time logs and then whining some more (lol). Not my fault you can't understand the basic concepts of both hockey and comprehension!
I think the problem was Heponiemi staying on the ice for extended shifts when Kakko's line came on, not necessarily Heponiemi's TOI compared to Kakko's.
So what is this then? It's called details (just an example). And what have you proved? Absolutely nothing. What have you brought into the discussion (other than having the capability of crying a river). Nothing. You're just going on and on about lack of prove and evidence like a broken record, yet there's plenty to go around and a lot of it has already been talked over. So I suggest you take some time to actually read what has been discussed and get a hang of things, cause eventually if you keep this up, even the entertaining value that you've managed to bring up so far will eventually cease to exist. This is just absolutely hilarious.
I don't have to prove anything nor am I trying to lol. You're the one whose proving to everyone that youre incompetent, and silly. You reply in paragraph after paragraph after being told that you're being ridiculous over whining about a player who stayed a couple more seconds on the ice per shift every game, even when he contributed to the team winning the gold medal. It's actually you crying the river here. You're right this is absolutely hilariousThis is just entertainment at it's finest, cheers! You've gone into a repeat now about me not providing any concrete prove for the arguments, yet I went to as far as re-winding a record of one of the games and counting seconds after one or both of Hepo's line mates jumping into the bench and him self-extending his own shifts. Here, catch!
So what is this then? It's called details (just an example). And what have you proved? Absolutely nothing. What have you brought into the discussion (other than having the capability of crying a river). Nothing. You're just going on and on about lack of prove and evidence like a broken record, yet there's plenty to go around and a lot of it has already been talked over. So I suggest you take some time to actually read what has been discussed and get a hang of things, cause eventually if you keep this up, even the entertaining value that you've managed to bring up so far will eventually cease to exist. This is just absolutely hilarious.
it's hilarious that you're getting so rattled over something so minor even after the fact that your team won the gold medal. Thanks for the free show though, really appreciate it! 
I don't have to prove anything nor am I trying to lol. You're the one whose proving to everyone that youre incompetent, and silly. You reply in paragraph after paragraph after being told that you're being ridiculous over whining about a player who stayed a couple more seconds on the ice per shift every game, even when he contributed to the team winning the gold medal. It's actually you crying the river here. You're right this is absolutely hilarious
Keep providing the entertainment"Couple of more seconds" haha. This is frigging hilarious. Do you think anyone would've ever cared to even mention if someone was cheating few seconds here and there? Nada. Since we're aware of your math skills those couple of seconds were 2 minutes and 36 seconds in the USA game explicitly (out from Kakko's ice time alone). He was doing the exact same thing before and after which you can again see (or maybe you can't but who cares) without me having to break it down to shift-to-shift level from the overall TOI spread around the games, which I again presented. As for the excuse like "he was just contributing to the gold medal", what a joke, like really. Was there any single player who wasn't contributing to the gold medal? Erm let me think... no, don't think so?
I know you don't have anything to contribute as far as this topic goes aside from the circus parade you've managed to build up and I always appreciate the good laughs so good job really. Aside from the other agendas like for instance trying to casually divert the conversation elsewhere, try belittle his actions, attempts to offend the author or what not, all of which again speak about the ability (or rather lack of it) to build any kind of constructive counter-argument. Good stuff. It's been funny enough to keep me on board up so far.
, it's getting quite hilarious that you're getting so pissed off over Heponiemi staying on the ice longer that you've become obsessed with citing the ice time logs and clinging onto such a useless and pointless argument like your life depends on it. It's also funny how you try and belittle me by saying 'you havent contributed anything to this discussion' when the majority of your posts on this thread is you crying and b******g about how much longer a player stayed on the ice per shift. If it was really that big of a deal like you make it out to be, the coach would've benched him, but he didnt!!! And yes I'm fully aware that more than one player contributed to Finland winning a gold medal but you fail to comprehend that this is a thread about this specific player . People are going to discuss this specific player when the thread is specifically about him. You've proven nothing other than how ridiculous you really are. Congratulations but that awards you no points
Keep providing the entertainment
Unfortunately despite of getting minutes equal to team's defencemen, Heponiemi never did anything of the kind. His highlight moment was probably skating at the right place at the right time, so that Tolvanen could shoot the puck straight at him.I wonder how many pages you've written all together about Heponiemi and his extended shifts in WJC. Maybe it's time for you to reflect on what you're doing? Talk about crazy Finnish fans, jeez.You run out of imagination and started not only quoting me but also repeating whatever I said? I avoid using his word around here but "lolz". But hey, it's great if we're both entertained!
So now you at least admit that he did indeed extend his shifts as opposed to just playing "few seconds more"? Are you finally getting "it" despite having all the top forwards' TOI's available practically the entire time to make direct comparisons from, of which you could've used to form conclusions with just a shred of an imagination? As for the bolded, when you refer to player contributing for a team that came home with the gold medal, it's so obvious that any sane person wouldn't even bring it up, unless they thought that particular player did something so amazing in the tournament that it needed to be pedestaled. But of course you would come up with something like that, I mean, who else?
It's so amusing when you stick to this obsession stuff and yet just a moment ago you didn't even really know what the heck you were ranting about. Furthermore now this feeble attempt to turn around the table with me "belittling" you, when in fact the statement of you bringing nothing into this discussion was as valid as someone pointing out that the sky is looking foggy and cloudy in Tampere, Finland at the moment.
Then lastly, the underlined part pretty much confirms that you've been sleeping over the discussion and probably didn't even bother watching the games, cause if you had done one or the other (if not both), you'd know that they DID indeed do something about that. In the finals, which again has been mentioned many, many times over. Had they not reacted (rather sooner than later) the end result might have been entirely different and Heponiemi would be receiving heck of a lot more critique at the moment. Right now no one really bothers since the team achieved what they went in for and most are satisfied with that. I'm sure that applies to Kakko too, but I'm also quite sure at the same time he's pissed off for all the missed opportunities (thanks to Hepo) in this tournament. That's not the kind of stuff players go in for the press with, since they do know better. As for a fan in a random internet board, it's a whole another ball game.
No kidding. Its like talking to a brick. He thinks im trying to debate him on whatever when really I called him out and ridiculous his behavior is and that hes whining and throwing a tantrum over something so minor and stupid.
As for the matter, I think pretty much everything has been covered already so it's turned more like correcting some folks who just think I hate the guy, which I don't by the way. Even if I found his actions pretty despicable. Still, past is the past, and who knows maybe Heponiemi redeems himself in the future and turns into a less selfish and more team oriented player.
I don’t disagree but heponiemi was supposed to be the best player on team Finland even if kakko is the most talented.
