Proposal: Buffalo and Rangers not involving Eichel

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TheDawnOfANewTage

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I can believe this stupid thread is still going.

Right? There are some reasonable threads that get shuttered on page 5 or so as it becomes clearer the deal wouldn’t really work.. and then there’s this unreasonable shit show that started with an awful proposal that made no sense, devolved into an endless argument over a players worth, and here we are. Even the title sucks- just say DeAngelo+ for Cozens. What kinda thread title mentions a player NOT involved in the trade? Do I really gotta preface a Pens proposal with “no Crosby”?
 
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I called you guys out for your bs. If he wins the Norris, I will apologize.
What bullshit did you call us out on? Besides looking like you didn't know what you were talking about (as we already pointed out), you're lumping all NYR fans in a category with a few, or with Bern.

We don't think he's winning a Norris.
 

JT Kreider

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I called you guys out for your bs. If he wins the Norris, I will apologize.

Now go in to the Taylor Hall thread and call out the Djp poster you are fighting alongside where he claims the Sabres have the best top 6 in the league, if you're really in the business of calling out people for their BS.

Hey, they even have are a better offensive team than the Rangers despite scoring scoring 40 FEWER GOALS last season.
 

sabremike

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I hope he just gives it up. He just keeps walking into it with the things he says. Like, I know I'm just presenting the facts that completely disprove his opinions, but it almost feels like bullying at this point. I half expect to get drafted and then renounced by the Coyotes any day now.
Um, that might not be a good thing to bring up when discussing TDA. Just saying...
 

smoneil

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Hint: It involves the use of a certain term that is really really offensive that rhymes with "rigger" by both.

As I have mentioned REPEATEDLY in this thread and others--there is absolutely no evidence that he said that word and it is actually far more likely that he said a different word. His suspension was based on something he said to a teammate. The year he said it, his team was 100% white kids. The rule he was suspended under covers a litany of things in addition to racism. Considering the lack of ANY Black people in the room, I think it's far more likely that he used a homophobic term or something along those lines. Still bad, but not to the level of the N-word. Everyone knows that that word is taboo and why. There are still a lot of kids that toss around homophobic insults without really thinking about the impact of those words. When people drop the N-word, it shows an intentional offense that indicates a lack of character. When people drop homophobic slurs (or ableist slurs, or several other kinds of language that has always been "allowed" even though it is now rightfully understood to be offensive), it often shows a person who needs to learn about how their words have impact beyond the bubble in which they grew up.

TL/DR: People state that ADA is a racist and dropped the N-Bomb because they dislike his politics. There is no factual evidence for it, and considering the racial make-up of his team that year, it would be VERY unlikely that that was the term he used to insult a teammate.
 

bernmeister

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Not when you are trying to foist him on to another team. Bern was pushing him as a #2, I said little more than a pp specialist. I guess the truth is in the middle, but thanks for giving Panarin some credit for Tony.

What bullshit did you call us out on? Besides looking like you didn't know what you were talking about (as we already pointed out), you're lumping all NYR fans in a category with a few, or with Bern.

We don't think he's winning a Norris.

pay attention people.

I already pushed back vs pigeonholing the guy.
On some teams he is 1RD, possibly even the best D. On others, clearly not.
All I said is specifically applicable specifically to BUF, he would be a good pair w/Dahlin.

I said clearly he is not now a Norris candidate and while elite D is a very small club, only takes one to bypass Deangelo, and I doubt he supplants Heiskanen or coupla others any time soon.

This thread needs to remain open in the hope that posters leaving content will be mature enough to speak to all facets of trade value and make assessment, not go off course.
 

sabremike

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You dont know that is what he said, as a matter of fact I think you're full of shit because he was the first one to support K'Andre Miller after the Zoom incident.
Can you guys go back to the Eichel thread and tell us all we are going to have to give him to you guys for Dancing Larry and an overpriced MSG concession item to be later?
 
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DJN21

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I hope he just gives it up. He just keeps walking into it with the things he says. Like, I know I'm just presenting the facts that completely disprove his opinions, but it almost feels like bullying at this point. I half expect to get drafted and then renounced by the Coyotes any day now.

You went from making great statistical points and schooling a poster to looking like an a$$hat in one sentence. Congrats. I got an infraction for calling Crosby, Cindy Crosby but jokes like this go unchecked? Good look HFboards! Stick to picking facts and putting them out there because clearly you're great at it, you got my attention with them. Leave the jokes to others it's clearly not your strong suit and is in bad taste. Mods can carry on lolz
 
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Wasn't any for the Eichel demanded a trade thing but that sure didn't stop you guys from pushing it.
So, taking a rumor that involved Eichel not being happy, whether true or not, is the same as taking a player suspended for "violating the league’s harassment, abuse and diversity policy" and filling in your own slur? Just making sure we're all on the same page here...
 

smoneil

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You went from making great statistical points and schooling a poster to looking like an a$$hat in one sentence. Congrats. I got an infraction for calling Crosby, Cindy Crosby but jokes like this go unchecked? Good look HFboards! Stick to picking facts and putting them out there because clearly you're great at it, you got my attention with them. Leave the jokes to others it's clearly not your strong suit and is in bad taste. Mods can carry on lolz

That's a fair point. I posted that at 3am at the end of a marathon work session. I'm still probably not all that funny, but I usually do a better job of seeing the line. I deleted the post.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich

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What was zoom incident? Serious question?

K'Andre Miller was being interviewed by the social media team for the Rangers over Zoom, and it was being broadcast to some fans. There was no password on the Zoom Call, a racist came into the Zoom room, and started typing racist things in the chat.
 

Djp

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Now go in to the Taylor Hall thread and call out the Djp poster you are fighting alongside where he claims the Sabres have the best top 6 in the league, if you're really in the business of calling out people for their BS.

Hey, they even have are a better offensive team than the Rangers despite scoring scoring 40 FEWER GOALS last season.

I never said they had the best top 6. I’m looking at their potential given offseason moves.
 
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