Proposal: Buffalo and Rangers not involving Eichel

[NYR425]

We all know Buffalo is looking to surround Eichel with better players. Would Buffalo be interested in something like this?

Rangers trade
RD- Tony DeAngelo
RW- Pavel Buchnevich
G- Alexander Georgiev

to Buffalo for
C- Dylan Cozens
and Cap dump

I know Buffalo has lots of Defenseman but DeAngelo would be a huge upgrade. Georgiev would be the starter more then likely and Buchnevich gives them another top 6 forward. Thoughts???

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[LRS87]

Interesting. What is Cozen's value? I know nothing about him so currently seems bad for NYR.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

We all know Buffalo is looking to surround Eichel with better players. Would Buffalo be interested in something like this?

Rangers trade
RD- Tony DeAngelo
RW- Pavel Buchnevich
G- Alexander Georgiev

to Buffalo for
C- Dylan Cozens
and Cap dump

I know Buffalo has lots of Defenseman but DeAngelo would be a huge upgrade. Georgiev would be the starter more then likely and Buchnevich gives them another top 6 forward. Thoughts???

You can figure out a way to take Skinner contract and I will consider a lot.

 

[NYR425]

I think Cozens fits the time line of the Rangers youth movement perfectly- around the same age as Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider, Robertson, Lundqvist and could be a great fit behind Zibanejad as the 2nd line center. Also I believe he might have played with Lafreniere with the Canadian National teams.

 

[NYR425]

You can figure out a way to take Skinner contract and I will consider a lot.

No way we can take on that albatross of a contract but how is the value? Am I in the ballpark?

 

[Fireonk]

Huh, you are a Rangers fan? This is brutal for the Rangers. I like Cozens but that's a ridiculous price to pay for him even forgetting we get to take cap dumps back on top of it.

 

[Doriva]

So an established top 6 winger, a top 5-10 offensive D in the game and a high level backup/fringe starter - all with RFA control
for a guy with.....*checks notes*..... zero NHL games.

I get that this is HF boards where prospects are god, but come on, that's a fire on the spot move for any GM.

 

[Team Cozens]

I think Cozens fits the time line of the Rangers youth movement perfectly- around the same age as Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider, Robertson, Lundqvist and could be a great fit behind Zibanejad as the 2nd line center. Also I believe he might have played with Lafreniere with the Canadian National teams.

Probably fair value but not interested. Centers are just too hard to get, especially a destination like Buffalo that needs to draft them. Cozens will be the Sabres 2C behind Eichel long term. He will have development year most likely on Eric Staal's line as a RW.

 

[Fatass]

Seriously doubt the Sabres will trade away their 19 year old future top two centre. The kid is looking like he’s going to be an ideal 200 foot player, and has the upside of a Selke winner.
Maybe the Rangers would be interested in the same deal, but for Middlestadt?

 

[Whitsmith803]

We all know Buffalo is looking to surround Eichel with better players. Would Buffalo be interested in something like this?

Rangers trade
RD- Tony DeAngelo
RW- Pavel Buchnevich
G- Alexander Georgiev

to Buffalo for
C- Dylan Cozens
and Cap dump

I know Buffalo has lots of Defenseman but DeAngelo would be a huge upgrade. Georgiev would be the starter more then likely and Buchnevich gives them another top 6 forward. Thoughts???

seems like Rangers would be better off trading DeAngelo and Buchnevich in separate trades plus they're not going with 1 goalie, Buffalo would have to send goalie back

 

[TGWL]

This is bad for both teams.
- NYR can't afford to give up 2 players and take a center who can't immediately play 2c, and we're in no position to rush him there. Right now, Buchnevich is our only top 6 RW.

Buffalo isn't in a position to give up a recent draft center like Cozens. Staal is a stop gap, and you never know what happens with Eichel. Cozens is their ideal 2c behind Eichel.

 

[NYR425]

Yes, I am a Ranger fan. We need to trade DeAngelo and Buchnevich to make room for younger cheaper players. We have a boat of players due for significant raises over the next coupl of years. With a flat cap that becomes even tougher. You need to give something of value to get something of value. You are getting a team to take on 4.8 + 2.425 + 3.25 = 9.435. Also Buchnevich is due a pay raise next season and year after that DeAngelo and Georgiev are up. Any other moves involving these players will be bringing in bigger contracts. This is a win win for the Rangers and helps Buffalo keep Eichel, which is their goal.

 

[NYR425]

seems like Rangers would be better off trading DeAngelo and Buchnevich in separate trades plus they're not going with 1 goalie, Buffalo would have to send goalie back

What do you realistically think DeAngelo and Buchnevich can bring in separate trades with a flat cap? If the Rangers could have gotten value it would have been done already. The Rangers already have the backup goalie- Keith Kinkaid

 

[TGWL]

What do you realistically think DeAngelo and Buchnevich can bring in separate trades with a flat cap? If the Rangers could have gotten value it would have been done already. The Rangers already have the backup goalie- Keith Kinkaid

I don't think NYR attempted to offload them. DeAngelo was an RFA going to arbitration. I think we intended to sign him as long as the contract worked for both parties. If Buchnevich was being dangled it would have been for either a better LD option, or in a deal for a player capable of taking Strome's position. I don't think the team was looking to trade away Buchnevich.

 

[cwede]

good basic structure and i think teams have complimentary resources and needs

would prefer if Buff adds (a) Pekar and (b) a RD who will lose his icetime time to ADA (Miller?Montour?)
NYR could add another piece, perhaps an almost ready LD such as Rykov or Hajek, or a F to backfill Sabres pipeline, such as Howden, etc

Pekar because NYR really need a North-South F, and a Czech-mate for Chytil can only be a benefit

 

[NYR425]

Seriously doubt the Sabres will trade away their 19 year old future top two centre. The kid is looking like he’s going to be an ideal 200 foot player, and has the upside of a Selke winner.
Maybe the Rangers would be interested in the same deal, but for Middlestadt?

You could not get anyone of those the players alone for Middlestadt!!! The kid is your Lias Andersson!! At the end of the day you will be lucky to get a 4th round pick for him. Only reason Andersson got a 2nd was because he has put up good numbers in Sweden. Casey has done nothing!!

 

[HaNotsri]

Disaster trade for Buffalo unless the dumps are Hutton, Okposo and Skinner.

You can get really good players for 3rd and 4th round picks why would we spend our third most valuable player for a goalie, a rhd that would be outside of the lineup and a winger that would't make it into our top 6?

We'd lose better players because of the cap trouble this would cause us as well if you don't take the absurd trio of cap dumps...

Buffalo needs: defensive specialists (lhd, 4C) and a goalie.

 

[Calad]

This deal is bad for both teams. Rangers are giving up 3 quality NHL players for a prospect. A rebuilding team like buffalo does not trade their best prospect, especially when its in their most needed position.

 

[Fatass]

You could not get anyone of those the players alone for Middlestadt!!! The kid is your Lias Andersson!! At the end of the day you will be lucky to get a 4th round pick for him. Only reason Andersson got a 2nd was because he has put up good numbers in Sweden. Casey has done nothing!!

I’m not a fan of either of these teams. I do feel Midlestadt (who is still very young and physically developing) has decent upside. I also believe that Cozens is too good as a recent top 10 pick to move out for the package offered.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Buffalo is going to need Cozens when Eichel inevitably leaves town in the next 1/2 years

 

[shortfuze]

Seriously doubt the Sabres will trade away their 19 year old future top two centre. The kid is looking like he’s going to be an ideal 200 foot player, and has the upside of a Selke winner.
Maybe the Rangers would be interested in the same deal, but for Middlestadt?

I don’t think the rangers would do it for Cozens.

 

[Djp]

We all know Buffalo is looking to surround Eichel with better players. Would Buffalo be interested in something like this?

Rangers trade
RD- Tony DeAngelo
RW- Pavel Buchnevich
G- Alexander Georgiev

to Buffalo for
C- Dylan Cozens
and Cap dump

I know Buffalo has lots of Defenseman but DeAngelo would be a huge upgrade. Georgiev would be the starter more then likely and Buchnevich gives them another top 6 forward. Thoughts???

WTF

Cozens is going nowhere...he’s untouchable

Buffalo already has 10,000 RD and Dahlin will p,ay 1st PP ..ADA wouldn’t so his value ducks if he isn’t a PP1guy

At RW buffalo has a Reinhart, Thomoson, and they drafted Quinn..all you get than Buch

Then there is the cap....

Buffalo after RFAs are signed might have $1.5M in space.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

So an established top 6 winger, a top 5-10 offensive D in the game and a high level backup/fringe starter - all with RFA control
for a guy with.....*checks notes*..... zero NHL games.

I get that this is HF boards where prospects are god, but come on, that's a fire on the spot move for any GM.

Ok, Reinhart, Ristolainen and Ullmark for Lafrenière. He has 0 NHL games. And the Sabres 3 are much better then the Rangers 3. Garbage proposal. Want Dahlin too?

Buffalo is going to need Cozens when Eichel inevitably leaves town in the next 1/2 years

Yeah with his magic wand he will erase the last 6 years of his deal.Ranger fans still salty we wouldn't agree to give you Eichel for trash.

 

[Team Cozens]

Buffalo is going to need Cozens when Eichel inevitably leaves town in the next 1/2 years

Dream on!!! LOL

 

[Djp]

I think Cozens fits the time line of the Rangers youth movement perfectly- around the same age as Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider, Robertson, Lundqvist and could be a great fit behind Zibanejad as the 2nd line center. Also I believe he might have played with Lafreniere with the Canadian National teams.

Yet Buffalo has

2013 Ristolainen
2014 Reinhart Olofsson
2015 Eichrel, Borgen
2016 Thompson
2017 Mittlestadt, Jokiharju
2018 Dahlin, Samuelson
2019 Cozens, Johnson
2020 Quinn, Peterka..both coukd be in team in 21/22

And others....

Buffalo isn’t trading Cozens for spare parts