Confirmed Signing with Link: [BUF] F Dylan Cozens signs extension with the Sabres (7 years, $7.1M AAV)

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I didn't know everyone was okay with paying $9m for 8 years and content with getting at most 3 good seasons out of it...

The fact you have to look or include what skinner did three years ago (under an awful coach who decimated the team and literally put skinner in the 4th line) instead of what skinner has done since…might be your clue why everyone is jumping on your opinion

Skinner is currently playing at a level that deserves around 7 million. He is overpaid by a bit. He’s very productive. THAT is not one of the worst contacts in the league…
 

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Kinda crazy how the Sabres started getting good the moment they started giving out these contracts instead of bridging their young guys right to free agency. Guess it works.
Time will tell, but don't act like there's not any risk either giving out this big of a contract with such a small sample size.
 

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Fair enough, the only valid argument I have read thus far
The hiring of Krueger was really the final tipping point of the Sabres long-term fiasco of mismanagement - the owners constantly hiring people who made terrible decisions for the rest of the organization to suffer through. It can't be understated how terrible Krueger was as an HC and how he threw a blanket on a young roster in transition, in order to squeeze out low scoring games with low-event hockey, desperate to justify himself at the cost of developing talent. Skinner didn't need developing but he was one of the few vets that could produce...if Krueger only let him play to his established strengths.

Just know that those couple seasons skewed everything about the players on those rosters. He pushed Eichel to the point of wanting to escape, stunted Dahlin's development, killed any optimism in the locker room, and pushed the owners to fire Botterill and start over yet again. Only thing he did right was hire Granato as asst coach, which has turned out well after KA made him HC.
 

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The hiring of Krueger was really the final tipping point of the Sabres long-term fiasco of mismanagement - the owners constantly hiring people who made terrible decisions for the rest of the organization to suffer through. It can't be understated how terrible Krueger was as an HC and how he threw a blanket on a young roster in transition, in order to squeeze out low scoring games with low-event hockey, desperate to justify himself at the cost of developing talent. Skinner didn't need developing but he was one of the few vets that could produce...if Krueger only let him play to his established strengths.

Just know that those couple seasons skewed everything about the players on those rosters. He pushed Eichel to the point of wanting to escape, stunted Dahlin's development, killed any optimism in the locker room, and pushed the owners to fire Botterill and start over yet again. Only thing he did right was hire Granato as asst coach, which has turned out well after KA made him HC.
There's a reason Krueger is called The Hockey Terrorist.
 

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The fact you have to look or include what skinner did three years ago (under an awful coach who decimated the team and literally put skinner in the 4th line) instead of what skinner has done since…might be your clue why everyone is jumping on your opinion

Skinner is currently playing at a level that deserves around 7 million. He is overpaid by a bit. He’s very productive. THAT is not one of the worst contacts in the league…
The fact that no Sabres fans can accept its a terrible deal is comical.

Its literally the exact same thing as saying the Erik Karlsson deal is good because he is having a good season this year.
 

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Time will tell, but don't act like there's not any risk either giving out this big of a contract with such a small sample size.
There's going to be risk with every contract, regardless of the player. Injury risk being the biggest, but there are a ton of examples of players falling off after signing big deals, even ones with proven track records. This seems like a fairly manageable risk for Buffalo, and one that could potentially become an absolute steal. Right now I trust Adams and the coaching staff on their assessments of the players until they prove otherwise.
 
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The fact that no Sabres fans can accept its a terrible deal is comical.

Its literally the exact same thing as saying the Erik Karlsson deal is good because he is having a good season this year.
Many Sabres fans know the Skinner deal is not great. Many complained about the deal the day it was signed, and that it was one he would never live up to.

It's more comical that you choose to make broad generalizations about all Sabres fans over a discourse with a select few, several of which have flat out said he's overpaid.
 

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If they can get Dahlin to take a team-friendly deal, they'll have extra cash laying around to make some noise with. This is how team culture changes. A couple of guys have already bought in. Now keep it rolling. Spend that money wisely. Show your players what can happen when everyone sacrifices.
 

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14 million total for your #1 and #2 centers. Took 100K less than Tage per year. The team the team the team.

Respect where respect is due. As a Leafs fan I know how important the cap space is when trying to compete and ice a balanced roster

The Sabres have one of the nicest long term cap outlooks for any team in the NHL right now.

The only players they have signed for 2024-2025 right now are Skinner ($9 million), Thompson ($7.14 million), Cozens ($7.1 million), Tuch ($4.75 million) and Samuelsson ($4.29 million). They will need to sign Dahlin and Powers, but their cap situation is terrific. A ton of their core is already signed for very team friendly deals, and their only “bad” deal is paying Skinner like $2 million a year too much.

I see sabres at least making SCF appearance if not winning in the next 2 to 3 years and will be a consistent contending team for the 4-5 years continuously
 

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Many Sabres fans know the Skinner deal is not great. Many complained about the deal the day it was signed, and that it was one he would never live up to.

It's more comical that you choose to make broad generalizations about all Sabres fans over a discourse with a select few, several of which have flat out said he's overpaid.
yep. Skinner isn’t and won’t be worth his contract overall but at this moment without Krueger actively trying to torpedo him, he’s been good enough to where we don’t feel the need to unload him.
 

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yep. Skinner isn’t and won’t be worth his contract overall but at this moment without Krueger actively trying to torpedo him, he’s been good enough to where we don’t feel the need to unload him.

Skinner's got 50 points in 47 games this season. I think thats more than serviceable at his cap hit
 
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Respect where respect is due. As a Leafs fan I know how important the cap space is when trying to compete and ice a balanced roster



I see sabres at least making SCF appearance if not winning in the next 2 to 3 years and will be a consistent contending team for the 4-5 years continuously
We just need to get the defense taking care of. Not that the defencemen themselves are bad but the system is leaving too many high quality chances.

With the money saved on Thompson and now Cozens maybe we can improve the back end now.
 

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If Skinner can be around 35 to 40 goals the next two seasons the contract is fine. The last two season...with the ELCs like Kulich Rosen Savoie Ostlund...*maybe* you can buy out the last two seasons. If he drops to 20 to 25 goals Buffalo would be better off buying out *just the last two years* and plugging in a young kid making 1.5 million
 

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The fact that no Sabres fans can accept its a terrible deal is comical.

Its literally the exact same thing as saying the Erik Karlsson deal is good because he is having a good season this year.

Most people quoting you aren’t even Sabres fans. Calling a PPG player and 30 goal scorerer one of the worst contracts is just a bad take that fans of any team can recognize
 

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We just need to get the defense taking care of. Not that the defencemen themselves are bad but the system is leaving too many high quality chances.

With the money saved on Thompson and now Cozens maybe we can improve the back end now.

Young team still learning. Sabres will figure it out IMO. Sabres are in the mix to make the playoffs this season with youngsters on their team leading the charge. Thats steps towards success.

More importantly sabres have locked in their top 2 centers for 14.1AAV as the cap goes up sabres can address any deficiencies and absorb some cap without having other teams retaining on any cap or make a UFA splash. Okposo is off the cap after this season and Dahlin is not up for renewal until 2023-24 season same time as Powers.

You guys have a young D which is only going to get better. You guys just need to get some vet D to show young guys some rope.

Sabres IMO are the most well placed roster in the league. If they don't F up Sabres can be the team to contend with in the future.
 
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