Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals XIII - Mod in Op

[bob27]

They don't happen often, but trades can happen between these two teams.

Not a trade, but there's also that Zdeno Chara guy who came over from Ottawa.

 

[Dabruins]

Only way I see Sens trading him to us is as a rental. Meaning Ottawa talks to Stone, doesnt want to re-sign with them, says he will test FA market in summer. Ottawa doesn't allow teams to negotiate a deal with him and deals him as a pure rental.

In that scenario it makes complete sense to trade for best possible return regardless of where you deal him. IF Stone decides to let the Sens brass know he won't sign with them but would like to take advantage of the trading team being able to max his term and is given opportunity to negotiate with the new team, I see no way that the Sens trade him to direct competition for the next 8 years when they could easily trade him out west for basically the same type value most likely.

Super interested to see how this unfolds.

 

[BruinsPortugal]

Let's kick this thread off on the right foot.

They better be...

 

[Pay Carl]

No... not worth it for the sens

Why would they want spare pieces ? Its the same mistake they made for Karlsson

**oops didnt see grz/heinen

...all of that would be too much

Hardly. I don't really have the time to look into it too much but the returns on top roster players I don't think is as good as you think

Just off the top of my head...

Karlsson to SJS
Duchene to OTT (turned out to be lopsided but the Sens playing so poorly after nearly making it to the SCF was a surprise)
ROR to STL
Pacioretty to Vegas

All trades of big name players with average returns (again the Duchene return for the Avs obviously not average now but at the time it was)

I don't think the Bruins offering a bit of quantity over quality would be underpayment at all. The Sens are rebuilding. I don't think they would shy away from longer term projects like Frederic, JFK, Donato, etc.

 

[Boston Bandit]

Let's kick this thread off on the right foot.

Would be absolutely amazing if we can get Stone. Go get Staal too and we will be looking pretty good.. pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty... pretty good.

 

[PB37]

Peter Schaefer, the product of Yellow Grass, Saskatchewan and a former Brandon Wheat King. Oh how I wanted to you be a 20/30 guy for the Bruins. I wanted it SO much!

If the game was all about shielding the puck from the opponant with your ass while facing the wall, Schaefer would have been a HOFer.

 

[rocketdan9]

Hardly. I don't really have the time to look into it too much but the returns on top roster players I don't think is as good as you think

Just off the top of my head...

Karlsson to SJS
Duchene to OTT (turned out to be lopsided but the Sens playing so poorly after nearly making it to the SCF was a surprise)
ROR to STL
Pacioretty to Vegas

All trades of big name players with average returns (again the Duchene return for the Avs obviously not average now but at the time it was)

I don't think the Bruins offering a bit of quantity over quality would be underpayment at all. The Sens are rebuilding. I don't think they would shy away from longer term projects like Frederic, JFK, Donato, etc.

I agree

Bruins have quantity adv which may look attractive for the Sens

 

[22Brad Park]

Sens say THATS it??

It is going to take much more than this to pry stone

Jets are willing go let go of Laine for Stone extension or not

Where is a link saying this?

 

[JRull86]

Ottawa is rumored to want a 1st, an NHL ready prospect and another prospect/player for Stone...

1st
Lauzon (NHL ready prospect/player)
Cehlarik/JFK/Senyshyn... any B prospect you want OR another pick.

If that's all it takes, sign me the F up now. I'll even pick him up at Logan.

 

[rocketdan9]

Where is a link saying this?

My bad... its just on the rumor mill at the trade area of this forum

Laine has fallen out of favor in the lineup. Plus production down

I do think the Jets rather give up Laine than Connor, Ehlers for Stone

 

[PB37]

As much as i want Stone, " all in " kind of worries me. If the play is for Stone, yes, that signals that they're all in but without a follow up trade for a quality third liner, we still won't be beating Tampa. Get Stone, get Coleman or another guy who can help shore up that 3rd line, and let's do this thing

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Stone

DeBrusk -- Krejci -- Pasta

Cehlarik -- Coleman -- Heinen

Kuraly -- Acciari -- Wagner

 

[rocketdan9]

If that's all it takes, sign me the F up now. I'll even pick him up at Logan.

Ok nice... buy him a nice meal too!

 

[DaveMatthew]

I think the Bruins have more attractive (that they'd be willing to give up) pieces than the Jets or Calgary, the two other main "suitors" for Stone.

I'd assume McAvoy, DeBrusk and Carlo are non-starters.

My guess is that the opening ask from Ottawa would be:

Heinen
Donato/Vaakanainen
Zboril/Frederic/Forsbacka-Karlsson/Bjork
1st round pick

 

[JRull86]

Is there a source for this?

Yes, Jets fans personal opinions.

WPG would be idiotic to make that swap.

If they want to trade Laine, it's in the offseason.

 

[rocketdan9]

As much as i want Stone, " all in " kind of worries me. If the play is for Stone, yes, that signals that they're all in but without a follow up trade for a quality third liner, we still won't be beating Tampa. Get Stone, get Coleman or another guy who can help shore up that 3rd line, and let's do this thing

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Stone

DeBrusk -- Krejci -- Pasta

Cehlarik -- Coleman -- Heinen

Kuraly -- Acciari -- Wagner

I think it would be

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Debrusk Krejci Stone
Wagner Acciari Kuraly
? ? ?

 

[bob27]

As much as i want Stone, " all in " kind of worries me. If the play is for Stone, yes, that signals that they're all in but without a follow up trade for a quality third liner, we still won't be beating Tampa. Get Stone, get Coleman or another guy who can help shore up that 3rd line, and let's do this thing

Just roll the top two lines 22 minutes a night and enjoy the fireworks. There's not a single 3C out there that's going to fix that bottom-6 by themselves, so might as well lean into your strengths.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

My bad... its just on the rumor mill at the trade area of this forum

Laine has fallen out of favor in the lineup. Plus production down

I do think the Jets rather give up Laine than Connor, Ehlers for Stone

we knew that when the Jets were here, though

 

[BB88]

1st+ whoever prospect not named Vaaks+ Grzelcyk after having few talks with Stone knowing what he's looking at on his next contract.

Stone is a franchise forward and could settle the 2nd line for the next 5+ years.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Well his rumblings is not good news for your boy Heinen prospects to stay as a Bruin

Do I want to keep Heinen and obtain Stone?

Absolutely

But If Iam the sens I want a young cost controlled nhl player that has potential

Outside of Heinen, Debrusk, McAvoy...who do the Bruins have

Heck I would be asking for Debrusk, McAvoy... obviously Bruins reject

But if Sens ask for Heinen... I would bite the bullet and do the trade

Are you telling me, you wouldnt?

Outside of Heinen, DeBrusk, McAvoy, who do the B’s have?

Grizz, UV, Frederic, Studnicka, Lauzon, Donato???

I would trade Heinen as part of a package for a signed Stone, but I still think that defeats the purpose.

As good as Stone is, I don’t think that:

63-37-Stone/88
74-46-88/Stone

Along with two 4th lines gets it done against Tampa. Still need a 3C especially if you deal one of the B’s only legit 3rd line players.

 

[22Brad Park]

As much as i want Stone, " all in " kind of worries me. If the play is for Stone, yes, that signals that they're all in but without a follow up trade for a quality third liner, we still won't be beating Tampa. Get Stone, get Coleman or another guy who can help shore up that 3rd line, and let's do this thing

Marchand -- Bergeron -- Stone

DeBrusk -- Krejci -- Pasta

Cehlarik -- Coleman -- Heinen

Kuraly -- Acciari -- Wagner

Well one would have to hope he is a very high character guy and knowing a team thinks that much of him to go all in he will then have his agent hammer out a longterm deal with them.Rumors going round Ottawa offered him 10.5 × just 5 yrs.Far as Tampa the Bruins play them 3 times head to head yet so we will see where we are vs them.

 

[Don Cherry]

I think the Bruins have more attractive (that they'd be willing to give up) pieces than the Jets or Calgary, the two other main "suitors" for Stone.

I'd assume McAvoy, DeBrusk and Carlo are non-starters.

My guess is that the opening ask from Ottawa would be:

Heinen
Donato/Vaakanainen
Zboril/Frederic/Forsbacka-Karlsson/Bjork
1st round pick

I'd give up all of that for Stone.

 

[bp13]

I think the Bruins have more attractive (that they'd be willing to give up) pieces than the Jets or Calgary, the two other main "suitors" for Stone.

I'd assume McAvoy, DeBrusk and Carlo are non-starters.

My guess is that the opening ask from Ottawa would be:

Heinen
Donato/Vaakanainen
Zboril/Frederic/Forsbacka-Karlsson/Bjork
1st round pick

Not unreasonable if Bruins can negotiate with his agent before the trade. I'd pull Vaak off that list, but if it ended up costing Boston Heinen, Donato, Zboril, 1st rounder I'd do it in a heartbeat if Stone was signed. Unsigned, I pull back Heinen and try to make the pick conditional.

 

[KlausJopling]

Any trade for Stone, you need to assume its only for the rest of this season. Though I'm sure even if the Bruins don't trade for him they will go after him July 1st.

 

[Crosside]

As a Sens fans thank you guys for your offer you don t lowball him like Jets fan

 

[wintersej]

Ottawa is rumored to want a 1st, an NHL ready prospect and another prospect/player for Stone...

1st
Lauzon (NHL ready prospect/player)
Cehlarik/JFK/Senyshyn... any B prospect you want OR another pick.

more.