Proposal: Bruins Trade proposals VIII - MOD in OP

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Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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I still havent changed how I feel.
As currently constructed I dont see them as a bonafide contender.
We have been hoping/ waiting for a 2nd line wing and a 3rd center for what? Three seasons now?
They have more assets (kids) then they have room for in the foreseeable future.

Deal some and fill those holes.

No rentals. But players with some term.

you were around in 2011 like I was wally... you saw the 2010 historical playoff collapse against philly like I saw. were you believing we were a bonafide contender?

you might know I pick the team for 100 points and the playoffs every season... im about as optimistic as a fan can be... but I didn't see a bonafide contention that year. I was pretty worried about a first round loss against montreal to be honest.

when we traded for chris Kelly... did anyone get excited? was the blake wheeler for rich peverly trade met with a world of acclaimed excitement by the lf here? dealing one of the special k players for mark recchi was a real backlash here.

and I think flipping out kobasew and replacing with paille… was also not met with excitement... flipping out morris and replacing with Seidenberg.

before we won the cup... the reputation of guys like boychuk and ference was that they were unwanted castoffs from other organizations.

I cant remember a single soul here in 2011 that was screaming out we were going to win the cup that year. most of us were calling for the heads of Julien and Chiarelli following the 0-3 loss to philly and that year was a hard one to be here listening to all the complaints {as opposed to all the years that followed and proceeded lol}

tampa looks like an unbeatable beast to me... but ive seen unbeatable beasts lose before. we owe it to ourselves... to the players... to the ticket buyers... to do what we can to increase our chances to contend. the balance is to increase this year without damaging too much of the future

so ONLY deal pieces that don't figure into the plans. the team will know who those players are better than I but I suggest heien/gryz are the 2 most likely pieces we are offering and the most likely target we are after is a scoring rw

personally I wouldn't want to deal the first a second year in a row... we might look at providence and make a lhd prospect available or a left shot forward prospect.

it is enough we will get something... and we should. I hope its not someone I wont like.
 

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Same question lol. How many teams have a legit #1C. To me Bergeron is minimum what I consider a #1C. For example, Duchene is the #1C in Ottawa and I dont consider him a #1C

Bergeron is the *minimum* of what you would consider a 1C???
 

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McKenzie on TSN 1200 saying if he had to make an educated guess, he feels Duchene and Stone will be gone and feels by the beginning of the next week, Ottawa will either have someone signed or they'll be in full trade mode.

He mentions the Bruins, Jets, and Nashville among teams who would be lining up offering a first round pick and a top prospect for Stone.
 

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McKenzie on TSN 1200 saying if he had to make an educated guess, he feels Duchene and Stone will be gone and feels by the beginning of the next week, Ottawa will either have someone signed or they'll be in full trade mode.

He mentions the Bruins, Jets, and Nashville among teams who would be lining up offering a first round pick and a top prospect for Stone.
I'd hate to lose Vaak but it would probably be worth it if they can resign Stone.
 

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my unpopular idea of the day... saw some discussion of a red wing deal a day or two ago {time seems to fly} and I actually have grown to like it.

im going to tweek and made it a bigger deal

from Detroit I ask for

nyqvist {a lefty shooting rw headed to ufa after this season}

and anathisiou {a left shooter that is rated at all 3 forward positions... can fill in at center until he loses the spot to one of the kids... then can move to wing... signed for next year at 3 mill}

and also im going to ask for mike green {hes an imjury prone right shot that is expensive... want Detroit to eat 1/2 the contract}

in exchange for these players im going to let them have

torey krug { is young enough they can build with him and hes a local kid... should be a good replacement for green}

danton heienen {no team has been better and finding a way to make soft middle talent 2 way forwards useful than Detroit}

and Andres Bjork {yes hes hurt now... but doesn't mean he cant be involved in a trade}

and zboril {will he make us regret trading him? im ok with Urho/lauzon joining moore and gryz as my lefty demen of the future so we can afford to trade}

a second trade should follow this one where we move kevan miller since hes too expensive for a seventh dman

our new defense... I like it
carlo/chara
McAvoy/gryz
green/moore

and we got alex Anderson in the pipeline to replace green... we got Urho ready to replace chara when he hangs it up... we got lauzon… we are set

our new forward group is obviously upgraded

pastrnak/Bergeron/marchand
Nyquist/krejci/debrusk
cehlarik/anathisiou/wagner
backes/Nordstrom/kuraly

we got donato/senyshyn/studnicka/jfk/federic all still in the system looking to upgrade
 

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you were around in 2011 like I was wally... you saw the 2010 historical playoff collapse against philly like I saw. were you believing we were a bonafide contender?

you might know I pick the team for 100 points and the playoffs every season... im about as optimistic as a fan can be... but I didn't see a bonafide contention that year. I was pretty worried about a first round loss against montreal to be honest.

when we traded for chris Kelly... did anyone get excited? was the blake wheeler for rich peverly trade met with a world of acclaimed excitement by the lf here? dealing one of the special k players for mark recchi was a real backlash here.

and I think flipping out kobasew and replacing with paille… was also not met with excitement... flipping out morris and replacing with Seidenberg.

before we won the cup... the reputation of guys like boychuk and ference was that they were unwanted castoffs from other organizations.

I cant remember a single soul here in 2011 that was screaming out we were going to win the cup that year. most of us were calling for the heads of Julien and Chiarelli following the 0-3 loss to philly and that year was a hard one to be here listening to all the complaints {as opposed to all the years that followed and proceeded lol}

tampa looks like an unbeatable beast to me... but ive seen unbeatable beasts lose before. we owe it to ourselves... to the players... to the ticket buyers... to do what we can to increase our chances to contend. the balance is to increase this year without damaging too much of the future

so ONLY deal pieces that don't figure into the plans. the team will know who those players are better than I but I suggest heien/gryz are the 2 most likely pieces we are offering and the most likely target we are after is a scoring rw

personally I wouldn't want to deal the first a second year in a row... we might look at providence and make a lhd prospect available or a left shot forward prospect.

it is enough we will get something... and we should. I hope its not someone I wont like.


I’d hate to give up a first. More my philosophical than anything else. Gotta keep the inventory cycled. But for a younger contract controlled player I’d consider it. Not for a rental though.

By now one would hope they’ve seen enough of the kiddie corp to have opinion of who fits or not. Strenghts and weaknesses.

Go shopping.
 

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McKenzie on TSN 1200 saying if he had to make an educated guess, he feels Duchene and Stone will be gone and feels by the beginning of the next week, Ottawa will either have someone signed or they'll be in full trade mode.

He mentions the Bruins, Jets, and Nashville among teams who would be lining up offering a first round pick and a top prospect for Stone.


Sweeney going up against the likes of Cheveldayoff and Poile, I got to be honest, I don't like the bruins chances as these guys do a lot more than kick tires and evaluate.
 

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I’d hate to give up a first. More my philosophical than anything else. Gotta keep the inventory cycled. But for a younger contract controlled player I’d consider it. Not for a rental though.

By now one would hope they’ve seen enough of the kiddie corp to have opinion of who fits or not. Strenghts and weaknesses.

Go shopping.
I'm not sure they have the assets to trade for a top 6 with term. Vaak I think has the most value and I'd hate to lose him since Chara is almost done. After Chara there is no solid top pair two way LD options. After that it's probably Donato and I would trade him, but I'm not sure has that much value. If they could trade a 1st and Donato for a young RW with term that can play in the top 6 I'd be all for it. Toffoli is the only realistic name I've heard and I think he's too inconsistent.

With Stone, they go all in this season and in my opinion have a chance if they can also figure out the third line. Then in the off-season they have a better chance then anyone to resign him. Maybe it's not ideal but it looks like the most realistic way of adding a top talent to the team.
 
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For duchene yes but it's gonna cost more then him so that's where I'd shy away. They gave up basically jack Hughes for him looks like so they want to recoup as much as that loss as possible. If I'm dorion I'm asking vak studnicka 1st round pick .
if they lose both Duchene AND Stone then I'd be shocked if Studnicka wasn't one of the main pieces they'd want from Boston.
 
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If they are losing more offense and don't have a shot at one of the top forward prospects in this years draft rather go 1st+ Studnicka+ for Stone.

Stone can drive a line on his own and help with Krejcis decline, Vaaks stays for Chara's replacement.

I dont think Ottawa would do it with out Vaak. Their really deep with forward prospects not so much on the defensive side of things, but maybe a Lauzon and a Senyshyn along with a first gets it done. I have to agree with ORR2Sanderson2ORR, I just don't think Sweeney has what it takes to compete with Chevy and Poile as Ottawa would surely rather deal out of the division on top of that.
 

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If they are losing more offense and don't have a shot at one of the top forward prospects in this years draft rather go 1st+ Studnicka+ for Stone.

Stone can drive a line on his own and help with Krejcis decline, Vaaks stays for Chara's replacement.
Me too. I'd trade Donato over Vaak too but I don't know how much value he really has.

the silver lining would hopefully be that Grizz stays

I'd like to keep Grizz and Vaak, I think they could both be long term LD for Boston. It gives them flexibility with Krug in the off-season.
 

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I dont think Ottawa would do it with out Vaak. Their really deep with forward prospects not so much on the defensive side of things, but maybe a Lauzon and a Senyshyn along with a first gets it done. I have to agree with ORR2Sanderson2ORR, I just don't think Sweeney has what it takes to compete with Chevy and Poile as Ottawa would surely rather deal out of the division on top of that.
if Duchene walks you don't think they'd want a potential top 6 C like Studnicka?

Hell for Stone they'd probably ask for Vaak AND Studnicka. For a signed Stone I'd have to do it too.
 

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Me too. I'd trade Donato over Vaak too but I don't know how much value he really has.



I'd like to keep Grizz and Vaak, I think they could both be long term LD for Boston. It gives them flexibility with Krug in the off-season.
Out of Lauzon, Vaak & Zboril, Vaak is the one I want to lose the least, but having the other two does soften the blow, especially if they keep Grizz & Krug.
 
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