Proposal: Bruins Trade proposals VIII - MOD in OP

[Bodit9]

Gryz, Senyshyn, JFK, 2020 1st & 4th, 2019 2nd, for signed Stone & Pageau. Let's do this

 

[Mainehockey33]

Could the Bruins sign both Hayes and Stone in the off-season I’d they wanted to? Let’s say they got rid of Backes’ contract and sign Hayes to $5.5M AAV. Stone would cost $7-8.5M I’m guessing, and then you have Mcavoy and Carlo.

 

[The Laukomotive]

Could the Bruins sign both Hayes and Stone in the off-season I’d they wanted to? Let’s say they got rid of Backes’ contract and sign Hayes to $5.5M AAV. Stone would cost $7-8.5M I’m guessing, and then you have Mcavoy and Carlo.

If they don’t resign Chara and trade both Backes and Krug, yes.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Could the Bruins sign both Hayes and Stone in the off-season I’d they wanted to? Let’s say they got rid of Backes’ contract and sign Hayes to $5.5M AAV. Stone would cost $7-8.5M I’m guessing, and then you have Mcavoy and Carlo.

I think you are underselling on Stone price, rumors have been much higher.

Signing Hayes for 5.5 annually seems absurd for this org to go. Are you planning on trading Krejci? I can't see Hayes as a 5.5 million 3rd liner, and having him as a 2nd liner at any price seems pretty risky.

And even at those prices, I think you would have to make a major cap clearing move like dealing Krejci for futures to make money work

 

[TCB]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

 

[bp13]

Well, I think 'draft and develop' is 50% of the gig. If you can get that part right you can suck at the other two things and still turn out alright. Of course, if you were passable at the other two you'd be better than alright.

@neelynugs said he thought we'd be in great shape if we got someone from the A list and someone from the B list but that realistically he was expecting someone from the B list and C list. It got me thinking, would two guys from the B list be enough? (Leave it to the B's to pass on the A-player to get two B-players but that's a story for a different time.)

It's a fair question, but you need to define "enough"? If Sweeney gets two B guys, will people think he did "enough" to defend his job? Probably. Like Nash last season...he did something and it wasn't totally trivial. It wasn't going to be enough to allow them to cmpete for a Cup and everyone knew it, but it filled a hole and made them more capable. If that's his goal again, then 2 B players does the trick. They'll be knocked out by Game 6 in the 2nd round, at very best, but it would "help". If instead you define "enough" by standards that maybe Bergeron or Chara themselves would hold him, meaning giving them a REAL chance to compete for a Cup, then only an A guy or equivalent plus a B or C does the trick, IMO.

For my standards, I've never been about "renting" in the name of one season, and with the holes he's left/created on this team, I think doing so would be foolish. On the other hand, I have been about making a hockey trade to add a bona fide top 6 forward whom you plan to keep, either because they have term, or you will drop a bag of cash on them. That continues to be what I want to see. So a lot of the names in that B list have "Hey look, I made a trade so get off my back!" written all over them. Simmonds, Carter, etc. Those are Nash redux guys, maybe worse. That would be classic Bruins and right in lockstep with Sweeney's past, and thus it's exactly what I expect.

 

[wintersej]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

Seems inevitable. Sadness.

 

[Fenian24]

If it is 2 B's would go 1-B 1_C, Kreider and Boyle.

 

[SPV]

I'm pretty sold on Dzingel at this point; plays the right side & would slot well next to Debrusk & Krejci to give us two good scoring lines.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I think you are underselling on Stone price, rumors have been much higher.

Signing Hayes for 5.5 annually seems absurd for this org to go. Are you planning on trading Krejci? I can't see Hayes as a 5.5 million 3rd liner, and having him as a 2nd liner at any price seems pretty risky.

And even at those prices, I think you would have to make a major cap clearing move like dealing Krejci for futures to make money work

I think having Backes’ money in the bottom 6 has gotten to me. I guess Hayes would be best as a rental anyway, hope Studnicka is ready next year.

 

[Tbaybruin]

It's a fair question, but you need to define "enough"? If Sweeney gets two B guys, will people think he did "enough" to defend his job? Probably. Like Nash last season...he did something and it wasn't totally trivial. It wasn't going to be enough to allow them to cmpete for a Cup and everyone knew it, but it filled a hole and made them more capable. If that's his goal again, then 2 B players does the trick. They'll be knocked out by Game 6 in the 2nd round, at very best, but it would "help". If instead you define "enough" by standards that maybe Bergeron or Chara themselves would hold him, meaning giving them a REAL chance to compete for a Cup, then only an A guy or equivalent plus a B or C does the trick, IMO.

For my standards, I've never been about "renting" in the name of one season, and with the holes he's left/created on this team, I think doing so would be foolish. On the other hand, I have been about making a hockey trade to add a bona fide top 6 forward whom you plan to keep, either because they have term, or you will drop a bag of cash on them. That continues to be what I want to see. So a lot of the names in that B list have "Hey look, I made a trade so get off my back!" written all over them. Simmonds, Carter, etc. Those are Nash redux guys, maybe worse. That would be classic Bruins and right in lockstep with Sweeney's past, and thus it's exactly what I expect.

Please I hope this doesn’t happen. Also most people thought we could win the cup and why not we were the best team in the league after our rough start last year.

 

[TCB]

Update: Trade Thread #8

- Not a single "hockey trade" since Reilly Smith - Jimmy Hayes on July 1, 2015. Three and a half years ago.

Waiting on Sweeney

 

[TCB]

Sweeney trying to make a Trade

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

The Nash deal was a good deal. Its not DS fault that he was injured, who knows what might of happened if he stayed healthy.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

As bad as that would be, the reaction here would be hilarious

 

[BruinsBtn]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

Great. Extra 7th rounder from the Rangers if he's traded.

 

[Gordoff]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

THERE it is...

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Honestly, the NHL NEEDS a successful offersheet that results in pure spite and then the could put out a behind the scenes of the drama of it, 24: the offer sheet.
.02

Chiarelli should be brought back just for that moment and then fired again

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Great. Extra 7th rounder from the Rangers if he's traded.

I think they already have it because he played at least 25 games.

 

[BB88]

Tonight's a big game! I still think the Leafs are going to add a Ferland or Simmonds to add some grit to their top 9 in a potential 7 game series against us. They have already added Muzzin who's looking really good. Bruins can't afford to wait much longer. They need to not only separate from the pack (Mtl, Buf, Car, etc) I want them to catch the Leafs for 2nd in the division. I want home ice against those clowns. Just for fun, a crazy trade proposal

To Boston: Ryan Getzlaf (30% retained, cap hit of 5.7)
To Anaheim: Danton Heinen+ JFK+2nd rounder 2019

To Boston: Mark Stone
To Ottawa: Zach Senyshyn, Jeremy Lauzon, 1st 2020

Marshy-Bergy-Pasta
Celharik-Krejci-Stone
Debrusk-Getzlaf-Donato
Wagner-Backes-Kuraly

Rumours still have them looking at defense.

That's not going to get Anaheim trade their franchise guy.

Rumor has it Tallon is trying to trade for Bobrovsky now (using Brassard & Reimer as part of the package) so he can sign Bob to an 8 year extension. That would give him...

Bobrovsky, at 30 years old with a .901 sv pct @ ~$8m per for 8 years
AND Luongo, at 39 years old with an .895 sv pct @ $4.5m per for 3 more years.

They clearly have a plan for atleast one of their goalies and know it.
The 8 years is bad but I started to think last night how much would one be willing to pay if they were able to build a longterm real playoff team in the East.

Yeah the end is going to be bad, or real bad likely but if it gets their team/fan level/hype to a completely different level it's worth it at the end of day.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Report: Maple Leafs have shown interest in NHL enforcer.

According to a report from The Athletic's Rick Carpiniello the Toronto Maple Leafs have expressed interest in none other than former Boston Bruins enforcer Adam McQuaid.

There's a lot of talk going on that they want to add a Muzin type forward as well. love Quaider as a Bruin and he'll be moved more than likely, but hopefully Gorton does Sweeney good and trades him elsewhere, unless the Leafs over pay.

 

[Gordoff]

Okay, so if the B's are going to make a move with the Rags I would think the wise thing to do is give the Rags a 3rd for McQuaid just to keep the wrecking ball from coming back and destroying the Bruins one at a time. His inclusion into the Toronto lineup would be murder for the B's at this point. It would be ugleee!
At least reacquire him and then move him out west to anyone that has the need even if it means an overpay. McQuaid won't get Toronto a Stanley Cup but he will get them past the Bruins and with a good amount of revenge.

 

[BruinsBtn]

I'm pretty sold on Dzingel at this point; plays the right side & would slot well next to Debrusk & Krejci to give us two good scoring lines.

1. Nyqvist
2. Dzingle
3. Zuccarello
4. Silverberg
5. Simmonds
6. Johansson/Ferland (can they play the off wing?)

Of the (realistic?) non-rentals:
1. Toffoli
2. Coyle
3. Carter

Obviously Stone above all of them. Getting him would be amazing.

For 3rd line center:
1. Schenn (don't think he's getting traded)
2. Coyle (not sure he's getting traded either)
3. Boyle
4. Brassard
5. Pageau
6. Carter

The thing about those top-5 right wingers is that there's an argument that they're somewhat interchangeable. All the teams are likely asking for 1st rounders for them but they won't all get them, so there's a case for holding out until the last second and getting one of them for a 2nd or B prospect.

 

[bp13]

The Nash deal was a good deal. Its not DS fault that he was injured, who knows what might of happened if he stayed healthy.

It was fine. He was a roughly 25 goal scorer/50 point guy on average over 82 games the previous three years. In clear decline but certainly an upgrade to their 2RW spot. But we'd be using revisionist history to say it was some major add.

And no it's not his fault Nash was injured, but when he wasn't, he was just "fine". Sweeney defenders (not saying you are one) don't get to claim that deal was going swimmingly until he got hurt. That's just not true. He had 3 goals in 11 games, including 2 in the first 2, and he was -3.

As far as "who knows what might have happened had he stayed healthy"? Well likely he'd have been around 50 points/yr and declining due to age. Again not a bad add for middle 6, but if that's the best trade/UFA acquisition you make in 4 years as a GM, that ain't gonna cut it.

 

[PlayMakers]

THERE it is...

It’s just a matter of time.

If folks think the Bs are getting past Toronto without significant upgrades that gel perfectly with their new linemates they’re nuts.