Confirmed with Link: Bruins sign Ryan White to PTO

[ODAAT]

I normally can't stand your posts about how we need more toughness, but White fits the bill and won't hurt the team on the ice as well.

He won`t???? Seen this guy take more dumb penalties than Rinaldo

I wish I had the patience to go back and read GDT`s featuring games vs teams White played on to read the comments here about the guy.

I don`t mind added toughness, call me less than thrilled about this signing other than the fact it`s low risk

 

[ODAAT]

Thank God, at least he has some guts. White will play hard, hit and fight. Good on faceoffs as well. Becomes the toughest forward on the team by default. See ya Czarnik

Predictable

 

[wintersej]

Pure speculation on my part, but I would have to think that Heinen takes either Beleskey's or Schaller's spot? I thought that Vatrano had a good game, but that MB and TS were very mediocre. The nice thing about Heinen is that he can play any of the F positions (and Cehlarik can play either wing).

I actually thought MB was one of the few...well...bright is too strong a word... one of the few less horrible spots of the last game. TS seems like a great guy, but the sooner someone forces him out of the lineup the better.

 

[PlayMakers]

I like that they're calling up Heinen quickly. He has a quieter style than DeBrusk but he was just as effective in training camp.

The Ryan White move kind of solidifies their thinking for me, in terms of them wanting a heavy, old-fashioned, crash and bang unit as their 4th line. I have mixed emotions about that.

Honestly, I think Schaller and Nash are quality defensive players and adding a White gives them some punch (pun intended) and makes me wonder if they're trying to re-invent the Paille-Campbell-Thornton line that helped them win a Cup. At the same time, there are so many good young players here that they could legitimately ice 4 lines that could score, or at least be a scoring threat, but by declaring the 4th line a place that's just for bangers, a lot of these young players are going to be pushed out of the lineup. Then what?

Do we lose guys for nothing on waivers? Does their development stall because they're not playing? Do we trade guys before we really know what we have in them?

 

[BruinDust]

I like that they're calling up Heinen quickly. He has a quieter style than DeBrusk but he was just as effective in training camp.

The Ryan White move kind of solidifies their thinking for me, in terms of them wanting a heavy, old-fashioned, crash and bang unit as their 4th line. I have mixed emotions about that.

Honestly, I think Schaller and Nash are quality defensive players and adding a White gives them some punch (pun intended) and makes me wonder if they're trying to re-invent the Paille-Campbell-Thornton line that helped them win a Cup. At the same time, there are so many good young players here that they could legitimately ice 4 lines that could score, or at least be a scoring threat, but by declaring the 4th line a place that's just for bangers, a lot of these young players are going to be pushed out of the lineup. Then what?

Do we lose guys for nothing on waivers? Does their development stall because they're not playing? Do we trade guys before we really know what we have in them?

The part that bothers me, whether it's Schaller-Nash-Acciari, or Schaller-Nash-White, is it isn't replacating Paille-Campbell-Thornton, but it's more like Campbell-Campbell-Thornton.

Whether it's Vatrano, or Heinen, or Debrusk, or even Spooner as a PP specialist, part of the reason the Merlot line worked was Paille actually had some speed/skill and could make plays. Guy had 19 goals in Buffalo one year, and they need AT LEAST, one player who can produce some offense on that line.

Pure checking lines like the Bruins are trying to roll out are Dinosaur lines and need to be put out to pasture.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I actually thought MB was one of the few...well...bright is too strong a word... one of the few less horrible spots of the last game. TS seems like a great guy, but the sooner someone forces him out of the lineup the better.

See post #17.

I think Beleskey was his usual mediocre self. He just looked better because the rest of the team (except Vatrano and Kuraly) had AWFUL games.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

My counter to this is that they are already giving plenty of young players opportunities.

Ordinarily would be thinking along those same lines. Given the many young players that are finally starting to arrive on the scene and legimately push hard for a spot, am much more inclined to give someone a shot. It has all the makings of a shorter term role to fill with Accaria being out for 6 weeks or so. One option not nearly as talked about would be a guy like Hickman in Providence has a similar style to White. They also signed Adam Payerl this year and he has grit and more enforcer tyle role to his game. Not ideal but for a short term fix worth a look. My bias with White certainly plays a part in suggesting this line of thinking.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

I agree with the current direction that a young player with a similar make up would be preferable but the problem is they don't have one of those ready and really only have two forward prospects that match the description, Gabrielle and Frederic. Kuraly-Nash-White is a decent fourth line, Heinen I'm sure has been brought in to replace Czarnik. Not a fan of his game but at least he is bigger.

In an earlier post suggested Hickman might possibly fill the role until Accaria returns.

 

[dafoomie]

I like that they're calling up Heinen quickly. He has a quieter style than DeBrusk but he was just as effective in training camp.

The Ryan White move kind of solidifies their thinking for me, in terms of them wanting a heavy, old-fashioned, crash and bang unit as their 4th line. I have mixed emotions about that.

Honestly, I think Schaller and Nash are quality defensive players and adding a White gives them some punch (pun intended) and makes me wonder if they're trying to re-invent the Paille-Campbell-Thornton line that helped them win a Cup. At the same time, there are so many good young players here that they could legitimately ice 4 lines that could score, or at least be a scoring threat, but by declaring the 4th line a place that's just for bangers, a lot of these young players are going to be pushed out of the lineup. Then what?

Do we lose guys for nothing on waivers? Does their development stall because they're not playing? Do we trade guys before we really know what we have in them?

Never thought a 4th line of young offensive guys was that great for the team or the players, minutes are either too limited or you end up taking away offensive opportunities from your best players. Better place for a "banger" who can make that impact with more limited and inconsistent ES shifts, and take the burden of SH minutes off of Krejci, Bergeron, Marchand, etc.

A 4th line like Kuraly-Acciari-White isn't blocking anybody, the problem is more their unwillingness to move on from guys in their top 9.

 

[BruinDust]

Never thought a 4th line of young offensive guys was that great for the team or the players, minutes are either too limited or you end up taking away offensive opportunities from your best players. Better place for a "banger" who can make that impact with more limited and inconsistent ES shifts, and take the burden of SH minutes off of Krejci, Bergeron, Marchand, etc.

A 4th line like Kuraly-Acciari-White isn't blocking anybody, the problem is more their unwillingness to move on from guys in their top 9.

Why does the 4th line have to be THREE bangers?

Aren't two enough?

 

[DKH]

Closes the gap between us and the Leafs. I like it

 

[dafoomie]

Why does the 4th line have to be THREE bangers?

Aren't two enough?

Switch in Nash or Schaller as you'd like but Kuraly and Acciari can play the game.

 

[Over the volcano]

Why does the 4th line have to be THREE bangers?

Aren't two enough?

Because the top nine has none (one?).

 

[Mick Riddleton]

He won`t???? Seen this guy take more dumb penalties than Rinaldo

I wish I had the patience to go back and read GDT`s featuring games vs teams White played on to read the comments here about the guy.

I don`t mind added toughness, call me less than thrilled about this signing other than the fact it`s low risk

I agree, is everyone thinking of another Ryan White the one that was not a asswipe for the Habs and took so many dirty penalties. He reminds me of Marshy at his worst or a burrows without the scoring. Maybe he has changed but do we really need to take more penalties. Oh well give him a few games and see if he catches on and matured. At least play him vs the habs and take out Shaw, make clode choke on his chicken lol.

 

[NDiesel]

He won`t???? Seen this guy take more dumb penalties than Rinaldo

I wish I had the patience to go back and read GDT`s featuring games vs teams White played on to read the comments here about the guy.

I don`t mind added toughness, call me less than thrilled about this signing other than the fact it`s low risk

That's actually a fair point. I think at this point he should understand that if he's taking stupid penalties he isn't going to last much longer in the NHL and would try to stay in the game.

 

[LouJersey]

I like it.

The part that bothers me, whether it's Schaller-Nash-Acciari, or Schaller-Nash-White, is it isn't replacating Paille-Campbell-Thornton, but it's more like Campbell-Campbell-Thornton.

Whether it's Vatrano, or Heinen, or Debrusk, or even Spooner as a PP specialist, part of the reason the Merlot line worked was Paille actually had some speed/skill and could make plays. Guy had 19 goals in Buffalo one year, and they need AT LEAST, one player who can produce some offense on that line.

Pure checking lines like the Bruins are trying to roll out are Dinosaur lines and need to be put out to pasture.

I think people forget how talented Paille was in the OHL, which doesn't always translate to the NHL level, but at least gives the player an idea on how to generate some offense. Those lines you listed basically have never had any offensive acumen at any level, although you could make an argument against that for Nash I suppose, but I agree with what you are saying.

 

[BruinDust]

Switch in Nash or Schaller as you'd like but Kuraly and Acciari can play the game.

They can? Because their 5 career combined goals in almost 70 NHL games says otherwise.

If anything, it's Nash, as much as I dislike watching him play, who can "play the game".

I don't even have an issue with Kuraly as the physical guy/PKer on a 3rd line with a couple of point producers, even if one of those two producers is Backes.

I just have an issue with the ancient notion that the 4th has to be 3 guys who play hard but can't put the puck in ocean, or worse yet, generate anything resembling quality scoring chances. Two of these types is plenty.

 

[Sheppy]

They can? Because their 5 career combined goals in almost 70 NHL games says otherwise.

If anything, it's Nash, as much as I dislike watching him play, who can "play the game".

I don't even have an issue with Kuraly as the physical guy/PKer on a 3rd line with a couple of point producers, even if one of those two producers is Backes.

I just have an issue with the ancient notion that the 4th has to be 3 guys who play hard but can't put the puck in ocean, or worse yet, generate anything resembling quality scoring chances. Two of these types is plenty.

White had 9 goals last year in 65 games. His goal/point totals have been trending up since he came into the NHL.

He immediately jumps on the 4th line with the best offensive output outside of Nash 3-4 years ago. I think White is a solid addition to the line, a guy who isn't a liability a guy who hits, can fight and is a decent skater and not afraid to get his hands dirty in the front of the net or the corners.

 

[BruinDust]

Because the top nine has none (one?).

While I agree with you that the lack of physical play on the Top 3 lines appears to be an issue, having 3 guys on one line that play 10 mins or less per game isn't doing anything to help solve that problem.

I also think it's severely overrated how much physicality and energy Schaller and Nash actually provide. Does watching Nash try to lay hits just to bounce off guys somehow get the rest of the team amped up?

 

[BruinDust]

White had 9 goals last year in 65 games. His goal/point totals have been trending up since he came into the NHL.

He immediately jumps on the 4th line with the best offensive output outside of Nash 3-4 years ago. I think White is a solid addition to the line, a guy who isn't a liability a guy who hits, can fight and is a decent skater and not afraid to get his hands dirty in the front of the net or the corners.

I like the move to bring in White.

Even better if he can produce every so often.

Still, I don't want that LW on his line to be one of Kuraly/Schaller/Acciari.

Let Nash/Kuraly center the line and be the defensive pressence/faceoff guy, and put someone with some skill on the other side.

Fact is, while I like White, despite his goal scoring, if he was the type of guy who provided physical play (he does) AND generate his own scoring chances, he's not coming here on a PTO but would already have a contract elsewhere.

 

[Over the volcano]

While I agree with you that the lack of physical play on the Top 3 lines appears to be an issue, having 3 guys on one line that play 10 mins or less per game isn't doing anything to help solve that problem.

I also think it's severely overrated how much physicality and energy Schaller and Nash actually provide. Does watching Nash try to lay hits just to bounce off guys somehow get the rest of the team amped up?

I don't see Schaller and Nash as bangers at all - thought the idea was a Acciari, Kuraly, White 4th line. They have a range of upside (Kuraly IMO could develop into a pretty effective 3rd liner) and if they could start killing penalties effectively it could bump their total ice time up to 12-14 min/night.

Nash is a total utility infielder - people rip him on the PP, but he wasn't the one turning it over and making the poor plays there yesterday.

Schaller is a tweener who still shows flashes.

 

[Don Cherry]

Great move here. Guys like Schaller and Nash are useless, this guys fills a major void. Kuraly is a third liner and possibly more than that. Nice to see that Sweeney is at least alive.

 

[Fenian24]

Predictable

Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot. Maybe they can find Alex Semin and add him to the 4th line, he brings so much more to the table.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot. Maybe they can find Alex Semin and add him to the 4th line, he brings so much more to the table.

Yet another misrepresentation of what people would like to see just to further your agenda.

 

[Fenian24]

In an earlier post suggested Hickman might possibly fill the role until Accaria returns.

I don't think Hickman has developed enough to do the job, loved the signing when it happened but he hasn't been the same since the injuries in this last year of juniors or the injury last year in Providence. White will get a one year 700k contract, he is blocking no one and will be valuable to a team that doesn't have much size, toughness or grit ready to step into the NHL. This move also allows Gabrielle to spend the season in Providence and develop properly instead of a panic call up when they have more games like yesterday.