Confirmed with Link: Bruins sign Nick Foligno (2 years, $3.8M/yr)

[UncleRico]

We do not need anymore 5'11 180 lbs non physical forwards without grit.
Foligno is a good add.

We also don’t need anymore aging veterans who are ranked worst in the league in power play production and whose production has dipped 35%-40% in points per 60 minutes.

We need young players that can come in and play and either be trade pieces or long term solutions. Signing a veteran who is in a steep decline for his age 34 and 35 season is not the answer.

 

[PB37]

I gave his power play numbers because there’s people wanting to put foligno on the top power play unit l.


2 minutes or 30 seconds the worst power play guy in the NHL over the past four seasons shouldn’t be getting any time. 14 points over 574 minutes in four years in about as bad as it gets. He tanks power plays. He’s a shell of his former self in nearly every statistical category and decreasing every year.

He's also been on some clueless powerplay units that just weren't very good. Pining that on Foligno is misplaced.

If he plays on the first PP unit, he'll be in the goal mouth position screening goalies, digging for loose pucks, looking for tips, keeping the play alive behind the net. I don't care how many goals/points he scores on the PP - as long as it's still producing and he's doing his role on it, then he's contributing. That first unit is all about working the puck around for either the Pasta one timer from the left circle or Bergeron from the bumper. Everything else are secondary options.

 

[UncleRico]

He's also been on some clueless powerplay units that just weren't very good. Pining that on Foligno is misplaced.

If he plays on the first PP unit, he'll be in the goal mouth position screening goalies, digging for loose pucks, looking for tips, keeping the play alive behind the net. I don't care how many goals/points he scores on the PP - as long as it's still producing and he's doing his role on it, then he's contributing. That first unit is all about working the puck around for either the Pasta one timer from the left circle or Bergeron from the bumper. Everything else are secondary options.

This is the misconception. Those power plays were bad because he was bringing them down. He was the worst person on those power play units. There was no one worse in the NHL over the past four years. He was the black hole, he was the one not producing and now people want him on our top unit. It’s insane.

Remember how poorly Ritchie did on the power play in the 2nd half the season? That’s been foligno for the last four seasons.

 

[GloveSave1]

This is the misconception. Those power plays were bad because he was bringing them down. He was the worst person on those power play units. There was no one worse in the NHL over the past four years. He was the black hole, he was the one not producing and now people want him on our top unit. It’s insane.

Remember how poorly Ritchie did on the power play in the 2nd half the season? That’s been foligno for the last four seasons.

Tell us how you really feel.

That is a strong, strong, opinion. I guess I’ll figure he’ll be somewhere towards the center of the lovers and haters calls. Usually the case.

I don’t want him on the top PP, but I believe he played with Marner and Matthews when Thornton couldn’t go? So they must have saw something they liked…something that maybe didn’t show up on the sheet.

The guy did pretty well for my fantasy team last year…lol…so he was putting up numbers somewhere.

 

[UncleRico]

Tell us how you really feel.

That is a strong, strong, opinion. I guess I’ll figure he’ll be somewhere towards the center of the lovers and haters calls. Usually the case.

Its not a feeling it’s just a statistical fact. 186 nhl players have played at least 500 power play minutes the last four years. He tanks dead last in points with 14. 2nd worst is 22 points. No ones even close to him. He’s far in the basement.

Not like this is a small sample size either, it’s pretty large.

 

[GloveSave1]

Its not a feeling it’s just a statistical fact. 186 nhl players have played at least 500 power play minutes the last four years. He tanks dead last in points with 14. 2nd worst is 22 points. No ones even close to him. He’s far in the basement.

Not like this is a small sample size either, it’s pretty large.

Yeah, I’m not wrapped up in the PP thing, I guess that was someone else’s brainstorm…I just want him to be an effective all-around player, which I think he can do for a couple years. We’ll see.

 

[GloveSave1]

He definitely chips in, in the dirty areas, and he’s offensively capable. If you’re looking for a prime scorer…you’ll probably be disappointed…but I don’t think many people are…

I think he’s gonna be a fan favorite.

 

[Gurglesons]

He definitely chips in, in the dirty areas, and he’s offensively capable. If you’re looking for a prime scorer…you’ll probably be disappointed…but I don’t think many people are…

I think he’s gonna be a fan favorite.View attachment 462523

Backes 2.0 on a more team friendly contract.

 

[PB37]

This is the misconception. Those power plays were bad because he was bringing them down. He was the worst person on those power play units. There was no one worse in the NHL over the past four years. He was the black hole, he was the one not producing and now people want him on our top unit. It’s insane.

Remember how poorly Ritchie did on the power play in the 2nd half the season? That’s been foligno for the last four seasons.

It's not a misconception just because you want it to be. A PP unit is only as good as

1. How it's coached
2. Puck movement
3. Shooters

None of which is what Foligno's primary role on the pp is. Those Columbus PP teams were consistently some of the worst in the league those years. No one person tanked it or brought it down - it's a 5 man unit playing the scheme drawn up by the coach. Foligno isn't going to suddenly make Pasta forget how to one time a puck or make Bergeron not rotate to the bumper on a give and go with Marchand, who suddenly can't make a pass because Foligno is 8 feet away. Use your brain for once.

 

[UncleRico]

He definitely chips in, in the dirty areas, and he’s offensively capable. If you’re looking for a prime scorer…you’ll probably be disappointed…but I don’t think many people are…

I think he’s gonna be a fan favorite.View attachment 462523

Just like how Nick Ritchie was a fan favorite!

 

[UncleRico]

It's not a misconception just because you want it to be. A PP unit is only as good as

1. How it's coached
2. Puck movement
3. Shooters

None of which is what Foligno's primary role on the pp is. Those Columbus PP teams were consistently some of the worst in the league those years. No one person tanked it or brought it down - it's a 5 man unit playing the scheme drawn up by the coach. Foligno isn't going to suddenly make Pasta forget how to one time a puck or make Bergeron not rotate to the bumper on a give and go with Marchand, who suddenly can't make a pass because Foligno is 8 feet away. Use your brain for once.

Ya because putting gradually less effective players on the power play year after year won’t have a negative impact on the power play.

Maybe you should be the one “using your brain”. You just posted he will be a fan favorite because of his hit totals. If you enjoy players who hit and can’t score/produce and impact winning then by all means enjoy, but I like players that produce.

The odds of him reversing a 4 year decline in the power play and even strength numbers are very slim going into his age 34 season.

 

[PB37]

Ya because putting gradually less effective players on the power play year after year won’t have a negative impact on the power play.

Maybe you should be the one “using your brain”. You just posted he will be a fan favorite because of his hit totals. If you enjoy players who hit and can’t score/produce and impact winning then by all means enjoy, but I like players that produce.

The odds of him reversing a 4 year decline in the power play and even strength numbers are very slim going into his age 34 season.

Where did I say this?

 

[GloveSave1]

Just like how Nick Ritchie was a fan favorite!

Your hatred of Foligno is intense. Did he steal your GF or something? Ritchie?!

Even a over-the-hill Foligno is a much better all-around player than Ritchie. I feel confident the vast majority of hockey people would agree. And I think he’s got a number of good years left. Enough to cover this deal.

I agree that if they’re looking for significant points production, they’re in trouble…but he looks like a middle of the lineup guy. A spot you’d want a good teammate and motor. I wanted more of that after the Isles series and I got it.

Ritchie was nothing more than a PP specialist. One trick pony. Any physical game he had was shelved.

 

[Beesfan]

Backes 2.0 on a more team friendly contract.

I agree, unfortunately. The Foligno signing actually looks worse without Krejci because it handcuffs us from finding a real solution to 2C.

 

[CDJ]

Backes 2.0 on a more team friendly contract.

I do not understand why people say this. The whole problem with Backes was that it wasn’t a team friendly contract, if he is Backes 2.0 at his term + dollars then I’m happy!

 

[UncleRico]

Your hatred of Foligno is intense. Did he steal your GF or something? Ritchie?!

Even a over-the-hill Foligno is a much better all-around player than Ritchie. I feel confident the vast majority of hockey people would agree. And I think he’s got a number of good years left. Enough to cover this deal.

I agree that if they’re looking for significant points production, they’re in trouble…but he looks like a middle of the lineup guy. A spot you’d want a good teammate and motor. I wanted more of that after the Isles series and I got it.

Ritchie was nothing more than a PP specialist. One trick pony. Any physical game he had was shelved.

Nick Ritchie had more even strength goals than foligno had goals in all situations last year. Yes, foligno can be a better defensive player than Ritchie and absolutely should be, but he shouldn’t be on the power play or penalty kill.

Prett weird that a guy who is a one trick pony power play specialist had more goals even strength than foligno had all year.

I wanted no part of Ritchie either, but foligno is David backes 2.0 except statistically folignos drop off from his prime has been more significant from a points per 60 minute perspective than backes.

 

[GloveSave1]

Nick Ritchie had more even strength goals than foligno had goals in all situations last year. Yes, foligno can be a better defensive player than Ritchie and absolutely should be, but he shouldn’t be on the power play or penalty kill.

Prett weird that a guy who is a one trick pony power play specialist had more goals even strength than foligno had all year.

I wanted no part of Ritchie either, but foligno is David backes 2.0 except statistically folignos drop off from his prime has been more significant from a points per 60 minute perspective than backes.

Well, we’ve reached the point in the conversation where we’ve laid it all out…

Now it’s we’ll just see how it goes time.

 

[UncleRico]

I do not understand why people say this. The whole problem with Backes was that it wasn’t a team friendly contract, if he is Backes 2.0 at his term + dollars then I’m happy!

No the problem with backes is that he couldn’t play anymore. His age 34 was a disaster and he ended up getting benched in the playoffs for Karson kuhlman. In his playoff career for the bruins he had 12 points in 33 games.

You’d be happy with that level of production from foligno?

 

[Blowfish]

I do not understand why people say this. The whole problem with Backes was that it wasn’t a team friendly contract, if he is Backes 2.0 at his term + dollars then I’m happy!

Backes would have been fantastic playing for the Tennessee Turtles. He should have retired the year the bruins gave him that contract.

Foligno can at least keep up with the new league ... I'm anxious to see him with Boston.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I love this and every pick-up we made so far this offseason. This season will be fun.

 

[CDJ]

Backes would have been fantastic playing for the Tennessee Turtles. He should have retired the year the bruins gave him that contract.

Foligno can at least keep up with the new league ... I'm anxious to see him with Boston.

Backes was a good player his first two years in Boston. He just wasn’t a 6 mill player. If he had been signed for 2 year at 3.8 per it would have been a very good signing. The problem is he got 5 years at 6 per lol

 

[GoBs]

This is the misconception. Those power plays were bad because he was bringing them down. He was the worst person on those power play units. There was no one worse in the NHL over the past four years. He was the black hole, he was the one not producing and now people want him on our top unit. It’s insane.

Remember how poorly Ritchie did on the power play in the 2nd half the season? That’s been foligno for the last four seasons.

The top five D-man in the league was bringing the PP down?
Take a look who was out there with him

 

[Dellstrom]

Backes was a good player his first two years in Boston. He just wasn’t a 6 mill player. If he had been signed for 2 year at 3.8 per it would have been a very good signing. The problem is he got 5 years at 6 per lol

Agreed. I was thrilled we got Backes and he was awesome his first 1.5 - 2 years. Wasn’t thrilled with the contract but loved the player and person.

He was never worth 6m, but its free agency. Even if he got 6m over 2-3 years I would have had no problem with it.

Foligno will be a great fit and the cap and term is right.

 

[Kegs]

Foligno is what a lot of guys ask for. Big strong power forward with defence first mentality. Bruins are better with this signing IMO. Improves pk and makes them a lot harder to play against.

 

[Blowfish]

Backes was a good player his first two years in Boston. He just wasn’t a 6 mill player. If he had been signed for 2 year at 3.8 per it would have been a very good signing. The problem is he got 5 years at 6 per lol

Backes couldn't play PK or PP....not sure what he brought to the team other than leadership. That's a difficult thing to do if you can't bring it on the ice.