Post-Game Talk: Bruins 3, Devils 2 (SO) - a wild ride indeed

[MNDevilsfan]

Maybe Mrs. Goose was making him pick up the midnight shift. Would explain the groggy play.

Now that I can empathize with- currently operating on about three hours' sleep thanks to my 18th month old.

In all seriousness, he got himself in great spots but just looked off. I am not concerned about him really, I imagine it's mainly the result of 10 months of no competitive hockey. Same with Palmieri.

I'm not sure he meshes well with Zacha, but it's not like there's a better C to line up with until Hischier is healthy.

 

[TD Charlie]

Definitely! Bruins played real solid!

One guy that I liked from the Bruins side was Nick Ritchie. Got that nice goal on the powerplay and just kept noticing him a lot throughout the game.

I know right? Which was odd because he was the sexy pick for whipping boy last season, and rightfully so.

 

[Lou is God]

Jack Hughes was the most frustrating player to watch yesterday, and yes he was good in OT, he always will be good 3 on 3.

This guy will be between a second and third center. He just does not have have good hockey IQ. If he was selected in the 4th round, people would have enough of him already. In case Devils keep losing games, his teammates are going to call him out on this: He can't pass. Nothing frustrates players more than grenades. They will tell him eventually. He makes plays that don't exist, passes into skates, makes backhanded passes after dangling to confuse the line mates, and loses the puck each time. He can not make a simple tape to tape pass, he is random, has no shot, and can't play D. He has an awesome 1-2 step and good dangling (that's why fans thing he is great), but that's it. Yesterday he did look way more mature than first year though.

To be honest, besides Nico Hisher (2C), this entire team does not have much talent at all. Not a single player that would be on a first line on a good team. Watch Makar play and see what talent means.

Been a member in this forum since 2003 and this is one of the Top 5 dumbest posts I've ever read in here. I tip my hat to you.

 

[JimEIV]

Been a member in this forum since 2003 and this is one of the Top 5 dumbest posts I've ever read in here. I tip my hat to you.

Hold my beer. LOL

 

[Nocashstyle]

With Blackwood I'm down to just one big concern: that his stellar play will inflate our record and hurt our draft position the way Cory did when he got here. It's why I hope that they manage his minutes and don't feet him a ton of games even though he's a much stronger goalie than anyone else we have.

I’m not worried about draft position this year. If anything, this seems to be a good year to pick outside of the top 5 due to 1.) there doesn’t seem to be a consensus top group and 2.) players not playing full seasons will make it even more difficult to scout.

I don’t think it’s outlandish to think there will be plenty of value throughout at least the top half of the first round.

 

[JimEIV]

I’m not worried about draft position this year. If anything, this seems to be a good year to pick outside of the top 5 due to 1.) there doesn’t seem to be a consensus top group and 2.) players not playing full seasons will make it even more difficult to scout.

I don’t think it’s outlandish to think there will be plenty of value throughout at least the top half of the first round.

Not only for the points that you outlined, but at some point we have to stop worrying about draft position and start putting together some progress. And by progress I mean wins.

You know it is nice to have a collection of promising young players but if we are going to send them out there every night with no hope of competing and no light at the end of the tunnel...I'd ague that you are ruining those kids...What we've seen over the last bunch of years has been a joyless environment and there is no way that atmosphere can be conducive for growth in my opinion.

 

[Blackjack]

I’m not worried about draft position this year. If anything, this seems to be a good year to pick outside of the top 5 due to 1.) there doesn’t seem to be a consensus top group and 2.) players not playing full seasons will make it even more difficult to scout.

I don’t think it’s outlandish to think there will be plenty of value throughout at least the top half of the first round.

I could be wrong but my perception is that the uncertainty in this draft is more about who the top 2-3 guys should be rather than who belongs the top 15. I guess I'm worried about picking at #20 instead of #8, though to be fair it would probably require an unheard of level of goaltender play to move the sticks that much.

 

[Blackjack]

Not only for the points that you outlined, but at some point we have to stop worrying about draft position and start putting together some progress. And by progress I mean wins.

You know it is nice to have a collection of promising young players but if we are going to send them out there every night with no hope of competing and no light at the end of the tunnel...I'd ague that you are ruining those kids...What we've seen over the last bunch of years has been a joyless environment and there is no way that atmosphere can be conducive for growth in my opinion.

Yeah, I totally agree, I'm just concerned when the goaltender is dragging the team across the finish line. If the team still needs to be upgraded it's harder to do that if you don't have high picks.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Watched the reply. Other than the first period, we could have won. Liking Yegor. Brain farts: Palimeri, Goose who looked rusty and Wood for his penalties but gets one mulligan for a break-way goal. Blackwood is a great young goaltender.

 

[Guttersniped]

With Blackwood I'm down to just one big concern: that his stellar play will inflate our record and hurt our draft position the way Cory did when he got here. It's why I hope that they manage his minutes and don't feet him a ton of games even though he's a much stronger goalie than anyone else we have.

Schneider did hurt our draft position early on by carrying the team for two years but then he preceded to sabotage the team the rest of the way. Goaltending, outside of some zombie good Cory, some Kinky streaks and the blessed Blackwood, has often made this team look worse than it is.

These young players do deserve good goaltending that doesn’t actually considerably hinder their chance to win games. We lost Crawford, we probably don’t even have a second functional NHL goalie, so no I’m not going to overthink having a goalie who just turned 24 play like this.

I agree about managing his minutes but that’s for health reasons.

Here’s succinct quote from Dom L. Devil’s preview in the Athletic:

 

[Nocashstyle]

I could be wrong but my perception is that the uncertainty in this draft is more about who the top 2-3 guys should be rather than who belongs the top 15. I guess I'm worried about picking at #20 instead of #8, though to be fair it would probably require an unheard of level of goaltender play to move the sticks that much.

Correct, I don’t think there’s a consensus #1 yet and consequently that’s definitely going to continuously shift at least the immediate several top names below.

Every draft list I see seems to have names all over the place. Specifically I’ve seen Raty listed anywhere from a top 3 guy to middle of the first round...and even seen comments from internet randos saying they don’t even think he’s a first rounder.

 

[Oneiro]

Hughes didn’t play particularly well (not horrific either) and still came away with points.

That is what star players do. You hope it continues.

 

[Guttersniped]

I could be wrong but my perception is that the uncertainty in this draft is more about who the top 2-3 guys should be rather than who belongs the top 15. I guess I'm worried about picking at #20 instead of #8, though to be fair it would probably require an unheard of level of goaltender play to move the sticks that much.

Yeah, there’s basically no consensus 1st in part because as far I can tell there isn’t anyone who is projected to play and make an immediate impact in the NHL. It’s like the 2020 draft without Lafreniere or Stutzle, the lottery winner may have to make a decision in terms of what to do with 1OA. Obviously projections are shaky because so many kids are barely playing.

At least least that’s my impression, our resident draft staff could say much more.

 

[Edmonton East]

Did you really miss the fact that he was on the ice for 3 out of the 5 minutes in OT? Not sure but I think that could be why he didn’t taken off. If you’ve never played 3 on 3 hockey, you don’t get it but believe it or not it’s actually pretty tiring

Lol I've played nearly my entire life...still do. And I coach.

Your post is kinda funny considering Hughes eventually still took it himself, so clearly he DID HAVE GAS IN THE TANK. Christ it's a wide open breakaway in the closing minute of OT for a 19 year old kid. GOOOOOOO.

Give him another year and I bet he doesn't hesitate in that situation. That's all I was saying. Simple stuff.

 

[FooteBahl]

Now that I can empathize with- currently operating on about three hours' sleep thanks to my 18th month old.

In all seriousness, he got himself in great spots but just looked off. I am not concerned about him really, I imagine it's mainly the result of 10 months of no competitive hockey. Same with Palmieri.

I'm not sure he meshes well with Zacha, but it's not like there's a better C to line up with until Hischier is healthy.

The good ole 18 month sleep regression. Hang in there, it passes quick.

 

[glenwo2]

For a new coach and system, new faces, and being off 10 month, it was pretty good. Like, I'm actually looking forward to their next game to see if and how things improve with experience.

Well considering they are facing the same team again, I wonder what kinds of adjustments will Lindy make?

 

[glenwo2]

Some of the takes in this thread regarding Hughes are bad. He had 2 assists and drove play offensively as the game went on.

Did anyone see how Kakko played?

It's one game after a long layoff.

Forget Kakko.

I took a look at Lafreniere's stats and was not impressed.

So considering everything, Hughes was better. HANDS-DOWN.

 

[TorontoMedia]

Jack Hughes was the most frustrating player to watch yesterday, and yes he was good in OT, he always will be good 3 on 3.

This guy will be between a second and third center. He just does not have have good hockey IQ. If he was selected in the 4th round, people would have enough of him already. In case Devils keep losing games, his teammates are going to call him out on this: He can't pass. Nothing frustrates players more than grenades. They will tell him eventually. He makes plays that don't exist, passes into skates, makes backhanded passes after dangling to confuse the line mates, and loses the puck each time. He can not make a simple tape to tape pass, he is random, has no shot, and can't play D. He has an awesome 1-2 step and good dangling (that's why fans thing he is great), but that's it. Yesterday he did look way more mature than first year though.

To be honest, besides Nico Hisher (2C), this entire team does not have much talent at all. Not a single player that would be on a first line on a good team. Watch Makar play and see what talent means.

Haha wut ?

 

[JimEIV]

Well considering they are facing the same team again, I wonder what kinds of adjustments will Lindy make?

I hope he can get a better minute distribution for the Dmen....Having one Dman play 30 minutes and another playing 10 minutes didn't make me too happy.

 

[TorontoMedia]

Lol I've played nearly my entire life...still do. And I coach.

Your post is kinda funny considering Hughes eventually still took it himself, so clearly he DID HAVE GAS IN THE TANK. Christ it's a wide open breakaway in the closing minute of OT for a 19 year old kid. GOOOOOOO.

Give him another year and I bet he doesn't hesitate in that situation. That's all I was saying. Simple stuff.

I feel terrible for your players if you think he really just said f*** it there...

 

[HBK27]

Not at all worried about Blackwood stealing points - it means that we're most likely set at goalie for a long time. Even with Blackwood playing out of his mind, playoffs are still a long-shot. Philly, Boston & NYI are probably locks in my opinion. Probably give the nod to Washington then maybe Pittsburgh for the next spot. Going to be really tough to catch any of those teams. Fairly sure we'll be picking top 10, which produces some damn good players if you look at drafts over the past few years. Lottery gods also seem to reward teams that play the right way and punish those that tank.

 

[Comparison Ford]

I hope he can get a better minute distribution for the Dmen....Having one Dman play 30 minutes and another playing 10 minutes didn't make me too happy.

i think this will happen at least a little bit with Vatanens arrival

 

[Devils Army]

My takeaways from the game:
In game adjustments... The first period was one of the worst periods I've ever seen. 2nd was just ok and the third we looked a lot better. Some of it may just be rust coming off but i think Lindy and his staff are going to be worlds better.

Jack Hughes: Bad first period for sure. Looked a lot stronger. Looked more explosive as well, he was a good skater last year but i think his first 3 steps are even better as a result of his off-season training. When he took off around the outside in OT he looked McDavid lite(obviously not in the same realm but that burst of acceleration around the outside). The time when Jack stops trying to dangle 3 defenders and make homerun passes is when we should be worried. He's a unique talent in this league and plays with a ton of confidence. Stifling his creativity is how you limit his offensive upside. When Nico is back and Palms not playing like crap Jack is gonna be a whole lot better this year.

Ryan Murray and Kulikov are both NHL players and that's more than could be said for last years team. Severson looked a little rusty but i think he'll be fine. Subban gets a lot of shit but he took on a ton of minutes last night, when Sami's back he should help a lot.

Blackwood can steal games on any given night, he is so damn good and will be our goalie for a number of years, really really good in net.

 

[JimEIV]

i think this will happen at least a little bit with Vatanens arrival

Yeah. I am sure it will. Still think that could've been handled better...I wonder if that is Nasredine's call or not?

 

[Frozen Lake]

Im curious what people saw in Sharangovich's game that should get him double the votes Smith has

Ty scored his first NHL goal and point while looking decent defensively (one specific play he was lock down on an odd man rush) and good in transition. All while being paired with, most likely, our worst defenseman this season

For the record, I thought Yegor looked very strong and poised out there for his first ever game. He was quick footed, well positioned, and took a few rippers. He was also trusted with some PK time

For the amount of time they had last night, I liked Ty's influence a bit more during his shifts