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To be fair, he was a guest on the podcast and they asked him about Cassidy. It’s not like he’s doing this every day or week or whatever. So I don’t see how that’s stealing a shtick

Now whether or not him being an average hockey player fed into his opinion of Cassidy is certainly up for debate, but by all accounts, Cassidy was indeed a terrible coach almost 20 years ago now.

Where bates gets it totally wrong is saying things like “I can’t believe he’s a coach now/idk maybe he’s gotten it together/I don’t see it”

As if people can’t change and grow, and more to the point, his body of work in that time span speaks for itself.

If bates had real knowledge of the current nhl he’d see the bruins are where they are in large part because of Bruce and not in spite of him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bruce got another Jack Adams nomination this year
exactly, if Bates had of simply stated how he felt about Butch and the issues he saw when playing there that`s one thing, IF he had of followed that up with something like " it was a long time ago, clearly he`s changed his approach, got some experience" etc....but he didn`t, made it sound like this is still keeping him up at night
 

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The fact that I've never even heard of this Bates guy probably suggests my opinion of him anyway....

I knew who Cassidy was before he was coach here, though.Was a bit nervous about it initially, but willing to give him a chance based on the fact that, indeed, a LOT can change over a decade or so.

I think it's safe to say that he has, indeed, IMPROVED himself as a coach. This team would probably make the playoffs even if clode was still in charge, or someone else was. But I do think this team's calmness during frustrating periods of hockey can absolutely be attributed to Cassidy's own calm demeanor.

f*** this Bates guys, ESPECIALLY if he hasn't actually been paying attention to Cassidy's press conferences and the way he coaches during games these past few years. That's just ignorance on display if he hasn't been paying attention.
 

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I love how we play in the 3rd period with a lead. Keep attacking. Don’t hate Clode. But, his teams used to go into a defensive shell and hang on for dear life.
 
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I love how we play in the 3rd period with a lead. Keep attacking. Don’t hate Clode. But, his teams used to go into a defensive shell and hang on for dear life.

The difference between playing to win and playing to tie has never been so evident to me than the last few seasons. It's like night and day from Claude to Bruce and much needed.
 

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So, it’s time to talk about Bruce Cassidy and his role in the run and going forward.


I’ll preface this post by saying I really respect Cassidy and majorly credit him for the new bruins turn around, he absolutely deserves the accolades he get. That said there’s always room for improvement and I personally feel he is primarily responsible for the Bruins loss in game 7

I’ve only seen a few “outcoached” posts, and a lot of first line this first line that, and some tuukka can’t play the big game garbage posts

But I really do feel Cassidy made some critical errors in the SCF and now with the injuries coming out I feel even more strongly about it

One thing I’ve always had an issue with Cassidy going back to last year’s regular season, he occasionally beats himself in games, he never uses the time out properly, and really has a problem with pressure situations - when things are going well they’re going really well, but when the bruins start running around he looks nervous and makes decisions that reflect that.

Back to the time out, the time out when used properly, is an extremely effective tool. We saw peter laviolette burn us with it in 2010.

Cassidy routinely refuses to use his time out in perfect moments to do so. He always assumes you’ll need it in case you’re down 1 with 1 min to go, and aside from ways you can extend that without a time out, if you use your timeout properly, you might be up 1 instead of down

There have been over a dozen times just this season I can see when the bruins start to run around and it’s obvious a goal is coming, and then it comes. And I don’t just mean after 30 seconds, I mean after a few minutes.

It happened in game 2 and 4, and then the fatal game 7


Now let’s focus on game seven because while I think game 4 especially was a huge missed opportunity, game 7 was the final chance and Bruce and boys did enough to get within 1 so credit where credit is due

In game 7, when the bruins were controlling the play then got scored on quickly, you could argue Bruce could have called a timeout here - reasonable that he didn’t, but the way that goal happened it’s somewhat reasonable he would at least take advantage of a whistle and change to settle the team down. Then when they really started pressing, another opportunity to try to settle them down AND identify that while the plan to go low on binnington had worked before, Binnington was overcompensating low and therefor nothing was going in. But they kept going low instead of lifting it. This is a coaching error if you ask me. Once players started to go high, some puck luck and tight sticks gave Binnington some confidence to grab everything that came his way, and sometime around then bruins gave up another one, because they were pressing too hard and Marchand went for a line change

After the first intermission, I’ll bet cassidy’s Message was keep it going put pucks on net, but by the second period the blues were collapsing everything and no one on the bruins was really willing to go straight to the net and pay the price to stay there, so they kept everything to the outside and would only sort of go to the net when the puck was already fired there

At that point, another time out could have been called. Guys were making unforced errors like it was the only message they heard. It’s on the coach to chill everyone out.

By the third period the bruins started to pressure again, but still all the same flaws in the offense as the last two periods, which brings me to my next point


Now that we know the injuries, I really question Cassidy’s decision to sit Backes and not mix up the lines a tad prior to the game. I get they won game 6, but it was so painfully obvious with how the series went that what worked in game 6 wouldn’t work exactly that way again in game 7. Sitting Backes prevented them from having a guy that would go to the net and pay any price asked. if Acciari has a broken sternum, and Debrusk dealing with concussion issues, one of those guys might have been able to sit. You can’t convince me Backes would have unleashed another level for that game, and in any case he can still use his strength and take a ton of punishment. The bruins desperately needed a greasey goal in the first, certainly by the second, and maybe even before that third killer goal they get that and it completely changes the game.


Krejci should have been moved between Marchand and Pastrnak, or at the very least move someone in Pasta’s place. If you intimately know your players injuries and struggles, it’s time to make some adjustments to get guys easier minutes or put different types of style out there. Instead he haphazardly sends out combos frantically in the third of game 5.

When you’re playing a 7 game series. You can’t just roll your lines and play to system. You have to change it up and adapt to what the other team is doing. Too often Cassidy looks freaked on the bench and I think it rubs off on the players

There was a lot of time in game 7 and for whatever reason, he froze and just had them keep playing, while the rest of us watched them miss pass after pass, force it into areas with no support, give the puck away instead of slowing it down and doubling back and then taking it with speed, force pucks through 4 blues players and on and on, until we all finally got taken out back and took two in the back of the skull with goal’s 3 and 4.


So yea, love Cassidy, but hopefully he learns from these mistakes like he learned from his gig with Washington. The bruins team and he could certainly grow a lot from these finals but I think it needs to start with Cassidy
 

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I think some light criticism is fair, but it needs to be prefaced with "there's way more good than bad" or something to that effect. No coach is going to be perfect, and there are things about him that infuriate me but all in all he's done a great job and the man has earned my respect and admiration.
 
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There absolutely is way more good than bad, and I also think he’s a better coach than Berube, which is why it was tough to not watch him make some minor adjustments that were obvious that also could have changed the course of the series. But oh well
 

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I like him as the current coach of this team. I think he's the right fit for a team with a veteran core of leaders. I don't think a super-strong personality coach would be the right fit here at this current juncture.

That being said, two things in the final concerned me.

1) He never adjusted to the Blues offensive scheme in terms of the role of the Blues D-men. Because the wingers were so focused on down low, the less-mobile less-skilled Blues D had all the time in the world to either throw the puck on net or put it back down the wall and keep the cycle going. I would of liked to have seen the Bruins wingers play a bit tighter to the points and pressure the Blues D more at the blue-line.

2) On the flip side, I would of like for the Bruins in the offensive zone to throw more pucks on net from the point. Far too much focus on the down-low, east-west stuff. The Blues team defense did a good job of taking away those down-low plays, clogging the slot, and limiting the Bruins to the PP and the rush attack, meanwhile the Bruins weren't a strong rushing attack team. I would argue the best player on the Bruins at creating off the rush was Johansson, the rest didn't do much.
 
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Adjustments in the Blues series would of help, especially in G7.

Besides that... we are lucky to have him. He really cares for the players and vice versa.
 

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IMO it is easy afterward. First period Boaston were all over St-Louis who barely touched the puck. This serie was more close than alot of us beleived. The pressure was on the Bruins this time and it showed.
I could argue that i still think Backes was a no brainer being dress....then i look at game 6. How could Cassidy take the chance of changing his line up after that win...! Should have he done it, i think so but i understand he didn’t and alot of posters and specialiste seem to think that was a good decision.

First line. Despite all the injuries i thought that alot of cerebral mistakes were done by both wingers. Marchand seemed really banged up. Pastrnak had a thumb issu. Ok i understand this. But imo it all comes down to pressure and how they did managed it. Imo Pastrnak was the weak element and did not respond to pressure. He missed at least five one timer, blowing the wind. That has nothing to do with the thumb. That os were i think Cassidy could have change something. Imo Pastrnak needed to be brought down on the roster chart. Again.... CJ would had stuck with the one that carried the team and would have probably lost with them also...but bang up like they were and difficulty of responding to pressure imo needed adjustement. But hey.... i have been so many times wrong that again somme will say i am still wrong here.!;)
 

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He's a good coach for the Bruins- he can't play the games and make decisions on the ice when the game is going so it's hard to fault him. Anyone who's ever coached, even in little league sports knows you can tell them all day long what to do but they still have to do it :laugh:

Where I have a gripe, such as it is, is the decision to keep playing guys who were clearly badly injured and not rely on the black aces at all- we saw Kamp for a game and he wasn't great and none of those guy were probably game changers, but we'll never know. Maybe Paul Carey makes that second line a touch better than a post-concussive JDB. I think Cassidy and maybe Sweeney dropped the ball a bit there.
 
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IMO it is easy afterward. First period Boaston were all over St-Louis who barely touched the puck. This serie was more close than alot of us beleived. The pressure was on the Bruins this time and it showed.
I could argue that i still think Backes was a no brainer being dress....then i look at game 6. How could Cassidy take the chance of changing his line up after that win...! Should have he done it, i think so but i understand he didn’t and alot of posters and specialiste seem to think that was a good decision.

First line. Despite all the injuries i thought that alot of cerebral mistakes were done by both wingers. Marchand seemed really banged up. Pastrnak had a thumb issu. Ok i understand this. But imo it all comes down to pressure and how they did managed it. Imo Pastrnak was the weak element and did not respond to pressure. He missed at least five one timer, blowing the wind. That has nothing to do with the thumb. That os were i think Cassidy could have change something. Imo Pastrnak needed to be brought down on the roster chart. Again.... CJ would had stuck with the one that carried the team and would have probably lost with them also...but bang up like they were and difficulty of responding to pressure imo needed adjustement. But hey.... i have been so many times wrong that again somme will say i am still wrong here.!;)

I agree with the Pasta thing. He was, by far, the weakest link on that line throughout the playoffs. A line that never performed at ES. There was no “chemistry” to be disturbed if Bruce had switched that up. Disappointed that something was not tried there.

Overall, however, I think Bruce is clearly more wiling to tinker with the lineup. I can’t imagine Claude taking Backes out for a single game. And I like Cassidy overall. Just look at the progression of this team since he took over. It’s pretty difficult to argue that he’s been an overall quite successful coach. And he’s gotten this team to play the way it’s built. The makeup of this team wasn’t right for a Claude type coach, but I think Cassidy is a really nice fit given Cam and Don’s vision of what a lineup should look like in 2019.
 
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He's a good coach for the Bruins- he can't play the games and make decisions on the ice when the game is going so it's hard to fault him. Anyone who's ever coached, even in little league sports knows you can tell them all day long what to do but they still have to do it :laugh:

Where I have a gripe, such as it is, is the decision to keep playing guys who were clearly badly injured and not rely on the black aces at all- we saw Kamp for a game and he wasn't great and none of those guy were probably game changers, but we'll never know. Maybe Paul Carey makes that second line a touch better than a post-concussive JDB. I think Cassidy and maybe Sweeney dropped the ball a bit there.
I would have liked to see him try to do something more with the top two lines they were just so bad in the finals,switch Krejci with Bergeron maybe,drop DeBrusk down something more than just moving Pasta around,or taking Backes in and out of lineup.But I get it ,they really were short a top line winger,and the third line was probably their most consistent line ,so he was very reluctant to break them up,but I think the overall inconsistency in the finals probably called for it.
 
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He was put in a terrible spot. The guys that got you there didn’t produce. Period.

No coach in NHL history is going to have good luck in a series if his 3 top scorers don’t do anything. I’ve never been super high on cassidy but I can’t put any of this on him. Thought he did the best with what he was provided.

I don’t have the time on ice on hand but maybe I would have played the bottom 6 more. That’s about the only complain I could garner.
 

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So, it’s time to talk about Bruce Cassidy and his role in the run and going forward.


I’ll preface this post by saying I really respect Cassidy and majorly credit him for the new bruins turn around, he absolutely deserves the accolades he get. That said there’s always room for improvement and I personally feel he is primarily responsible for the Bruins loss in game 7

I’ve only seen a few “outcoached” posts, and a lot of first line this first line that, and some tuukka can’t play the big game garbage posts

But I really do feel Cassidy made some critical errors in the SCF and now with the injuries coming out I feel even more strongly about it

One thing I’ve always had an issue with Cassidy going back to last year’s regular season, he occasionally beats himself in games, he never uses the time out properly, and really has a problem with pressure situations - when things are going well they’re going really well, but when the bruins start running around he looks nervous and makes decisions that reflect that.

Back to the time out, the time out when used properly, is an extremely effective tool. We saw peter laviolette burn us with it in 2010.

Cassidy routinely refuses to use his time out in perfect moments to do so. He always assumes you’ll need it in case you’re down 1 with 1 min to go, and aside from ways you can extend that without a time out, if you use your timeout properly, you might be up 1 instead of down

There have been over a dozen times just this season I can see when the bruins start to run around and it’s obvious a goal is coming, and then it comes. And I don’t just mean after 30 seconds, I mean after a few minutes.

It happened in game 2 and 4, and then the fatal game 7


Now let’s focus on game seven because while I think game 4 especially was a huge missed opportunity, game 7 was the final chance and Bruce and boys did enough to get within 1 so credit where credit is due

In game 7, when the bruins were controlling the play then got scored on quickly, you could argue Bruce could have called a timeout here - reasonable that he didn’t, but the way that goal happened it’s somewhat reasonable he would at least take advantage of a whistle and change to settle the team down. Then when they really started pressing, another opportunity to try to settle them down AND identify that while the plan to go low on binnington had worked before, Binnington was overcompensating low and therefor nothing was going in. But they kept going low instead of lifting it. This is a coaching error if you ask me. Once players started to go high, some puck luck and tight sticks gave Binnington some confidence to grab everything that came his way, and sometime around then bruins gave up another one, because they were pressing too hard and Marchand went for a line change

After the first intermission, I’ll bet cassidy’s Message was keep it going put pucks on net, but by the second period the blues were collapsing everything and no one on the bruins was really willing to go straight to the net and pay the price to stay there, so they kept everything to the outside and would only sort of go to the net when the puck was already fired there

At that point, another time out could have been called. Guys were making unforced errors like it was the only message they heard. It’s on the coach to chill everyone out.

By the third period the bruins started to pressure again, but still all the same flaws in the offense as the last two periods, which brings me to my next point


Now that we know the injuries, I really question Cassidy’s decision to sit Backes and not mix up the lines a tad prior to the game. I get they won game 6, but it was so painfully obvious with how the series went that what worked in game 6 wouldn’t work exactly that way again in game 7. Sitting Backes prevented them from having a guy that would go to the net and pay any price asked. if Acciari has a broken sternum, and Debrusk dealing with concussion issues, one of those guys might have been able to sit. You can’t convince me Backes would have unleashed another level for that game, and in any case he can still use his strength and take a ton of punishment. The bruins desperately needed a greasey goal in the first, certainly by the second, and maybe even before that third killer goal they get that and it completely changes the game.


Krejci should have been moved between Marchand and Pastrnak, or at the very least move someone in Pasta’s place. If you intimately know your players injuries and struggles, it’s time to make some adjustments to get guys easier minutes or put different types of style out there. Instead he haphazardly sends out combos frantically in the third of game 5.

When you’re playing a 7 game series. You can’t just roll your lines and play to system. You have to change it up and adapt to what the other team is doing. Too often Cassidy looks freaked on the bench and I think it rubs off on the players

There was a lot of time in game 7 and for whatever reason, he froze and just had them keep playing, while the rest of us watched them miss pass after pass, force it into areas with no support, give the puck away instead of slowing it down and doubling back and then taking it with speed, force pucks through 4 blues players and on and on, until we all finally got taken out back and took two in the back of the skull with goal’s 3 and 4.


So yea, love Cassidy, but hopefully he learns from these mistakes like he learned from his gig with Washington. The bruins team and he could certainly grow a lot from these finals but I think it needs to start with Cassidy

Anyone who is using rask can't play in big games is worse than this but really cmon . Backes in game 7 lol ok I can tell you the only guy backes was going in for had just played a hell of a game 6 and scored so there was zero decision there . I tend not to judge a hockey coach decisions too often because it is kind of funny to think we are better coaches than Bruce , Claude etc etc. I like to look at his body of work and it is nothing short of awesome here . That is probably why you say you like him and you should. People love to say the winning coach out coached the losing coach in every playoff game . I call that B.S.

In one hockey Game anything and I mean anything can happen. We came out we couldn't score, despite many chances than they got two . The killer second was ninety percent on Brad but hey it happens lets not decide he is useless in the clutch bla bla bla . Once you get behind stlouis 2/0 ===Good Luck. The only thing this game proved was we couldn't have a huge party and proclaim our team was the best even though I still believe we were slightly better in the series due to special teams and a little better goaltending . Ironic comment considering biningham really stole games 5 and 7 for them .

We easily could've lost game 7 to Toronto if andersson would've played unreal and rask would've been just a touch not as great as he was in leaf game 7 . Than everyone here is ripping this team apart when in reality it is the same team with the same fight and character . This is the reality of today in the nhl and the over blown reactions of game 7 wins and losses.
 
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