Recalled/Assigned: Brossoit up and Nilsson down (update: Brossoit down and Nilsson up)

[TheBrew]

Quick, someone tell the Detroit Red Wings they don't know how to evaluate goaltenders. They somehow found a way to do both in 2013-14 with Mrazek- 9 NHL games, 32 AHL games, and 10 AHL playoff games. But hey, I guess they ruined him, right?

So you are saying Brossoit can't be called up again to play a few more games?

 

[Del Preston]

I thought he didn't for one more year.

I believe you are correct.

Edit: Yes. Brossoit signed and played his first pro game (AHL) when he was 20 (2013-14), so he has four years of waiver exemption.

Year 1: 2013-14
Year 2: 2014-15
Year 3: 2015-16
Year 4: 2016-17

https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers_faq

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Quick, someone tell the Detroit Red Wings they don't know how to evaluate goaltenders. They somehow found a way to do both in 2013-14 with Mrazek- 9 NHL games, 32 AHL games, and 10 AHL playoff games. But hey, I guess they ruined him, right?

Quick tell MA they ruined Martin Jones for giving him 19 starts his first NHL taste of the NHL and never went back!

What's that, both ways work as every player is different? Who knew!

 

[joestevens29]

So you are saying Brossoit can't be called up again to play a few more games?

IMO they need to get Nilsson in before TDD and that's why he's up. If Nilsson continued to suck in Bakersfield then he wouldn't have been called up

 

[McPuritania]

LB is likely to rot behind this team.

Well I said a few starts, not a ton. I'd rather he get more playing time in Bako than sit behind Talbot, but a couple more games wouldn't hurt.

 

[McFlyingV]

Quick tell MA they ruined Martin Jones for giving him 19 starts his first NHL taste of the NHL and never went back!

What's that, both ways work as every player is different? Who knew!

Jones was also a year older than Brossoit, and they didn't have much of a choice with Quick getting injured.

I'm sure they would have done the same thing the Oilers are if Quick never got injured (although that might have been Jones last year of waiver exemption so they might have gave him some games anyways to see if he was ready).

 

[1990*]

Quick tell MA they ruined Martin Jones for giving him 19 starts his first NHL taste of the NHL and never went back!

What's that, both ways work as every player is different? Who knew!

Err, well, you did say:

It's how most good teams actually evaluate goaltenders.

Except that's not how it works in the majority of cases. Here's the progression for ten of the league's starters:

Braden Holtby- 14 and 7 NHL GP over two seasons before becoming backup
Jonathan Quick- 3 NHL GP before becoming backup
Petr Mrazek- 2 and 9 NHL GP over three seasons before becoming backup
Ben Bishop- 6, 7, 13, 10 and 9 NHL GP before becoming backup
Cory Schneider- 2 and 8 NHL GP before becoming backup
Devan Dubnyk- 19 GP before becoming backup
Craig Anderson- 6 NHL GP before becoming backup
Ryan Miller- 3 and 15 NHL GP before becoming backup
Jake Allen- 15 NHL GP before becoming backup
Jaroslav Halak- 6 and 16 NHL GP before becoming backup

The ones missing from this list either become a starter or a backup immediately upon playing their first NHL game; since we know that wasn't and isn't the case with Brossoit, these are the best historical comparisons available.

In each instance, anywhere from 3 to 45 GP were required before their respective NHL clubs deemed them ready for second-string durty; while you were correct in that all players are different, it's extremely rare that a team anoints their backup without first auditioning them ten or more GP- often spread over multiple seasons.

Chiarelli, however, has apparently decided he's smarter than history. Our previous management groups were often criticized for believing they were bold mavericks with genius schemes (see: Swarm, The; Kotalik and O'Sullivan). I'm not sure why Chia is above reproach in this regard seeing as he's about to make the same sort of mistake.

 

[McFlyingV]

You're acting like Brossoit can't be called back up... They clearly want to give Talbot some steady work to make sure he's used to the role he will have to take on for the next few years under his new contract (there's only 24 games left and Talbot's only played in 36. I'm sure they'd like him to feel the work load of ~55 games that he'll be getting more than likely next season). Brossoit still has a year of waiver exemption, so for all we know next year might be the year that he gets a bigger taste and then takes over the back up job the following year. Maybe they sign a backup for next year on a 1 year deal in the meantime. No reason to rush the guy along and ruin what has been a very steady upwards progression of development.

 

[Hemsky4PM]

Simple reason to recall Nilsson and give him a couple of starts before the trade deadline: trade value. Teams are often looking to add goaltending depth before the playoffs. I think Nilsson might be trade worthy as a backup for a team dealing with injuries or weakness in the position. There won't be many options on the market.

Ottawa, Arizona, San Jose and maybe a couple of other teams might have mild interest in Nilsson for a late round pick.

 

[fuswald]

Simple reason to recall Nilsson and give him a couple of starts before the trade deadline: trade value. Teams are often looking to add goaltending depth before the playoffs. I think Nilsson might be trade worthy as a backup for a team dealing with injuries or weakness in the position. There won't be many options on the market.

Ottawa, Arizona, San Jose and maybe a couple of other teams might have mild interest in Nilsson for a late round pick.

If Dubnyk is an example of Oilers goalies then who knows maybe Nilsson gets us a pick. Does Minnesota need a spare?

 

[shoop]

If Dubnyk is an example of Oilers goalies then who knows maybe Nilsson gets us a pick. Does Minnesota need a spare?

Definitely not. If anything they are going to be sellers in the goalie market.

Keumper is an RFA and relatively cheap, so Backstrom could be on offer to the right team.

 

[THall4]

Not sure why people are finding this to be overly negative?

LB will go to BAK and pretty much start every game down the stretch..on a team pushing for playoffs. If we kept him here..hes sitting on the bench on the 30th place team..the only good thing for him being here was he would be collecting NHL paycheques.

Relax everyone

 

[Aceboogie]

Id rather follow Detroits handling of Mrazek and give him 5-10 games this season. But ill trust Chiarelli on this. He did a pretty good job with Rask. No harm IMO in going back down to Bakers for a playoff push. Im guessing a really good environment down there.

Hard to complain about over development, especially with goalies.