Player Discussion Brock Boeser | Still Unsigned

[DonnyNucker]

Anything to avoid criticizing the Canucks management and staff eh?

Interesting take.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Tweaked his groin again. Saw this one coming a mile away. You don’t play through groin pain.

Our medical staff coming up bush league once again.

Mike Seaver did.

 

[SillyRabbit]

I’ve been calling for the Canucks to sit him since the first week of the season, it’s abundantly clear that he’s suffering from multiple nagging injuries in his back and groin.

I’m actually seriously worried that these injuries could linger throughout his career.

Boeser is so important to this franchise, he’s one of the main reasons Benning even still has a job.

The shortsightedness here is unbelievable. Imagine three years down the line, Boeser has to sit out Games 4-6 of the second round of the playoffs due to back/groin issues. We will be wishing we took care of these issues fully and completely when they first presented themselves.

“Playing through an injury” is literally choosing not to fix a problem, press the issue further, and hope it doesn’t get worse. Even if it doesn’t get worse, it sure as hell isn't going to get better without proper treatment. And it absolutely can get worse.

How incompetent do you have to be to fail to protect one of your most valuable assets?

 

[Svencouver]

IDK about you guys, but sitting him as frequently as they have been this season is telling me that they are being cautious with him. Brock wants to play and played through the rest of the game in Colorado without much issue. If anything it's the training staff keeping him off.

 

[xtra]

I hope someone posted the Hans Moleman JPEG with this thread title going around

 

[SillyRabbit]

IDK about you guys, but sitting him as frequently as they have been this season is telling me that they are being cautious with him. Brock wants to play and played through the rest of the game in Colorado without much issue. If anything it's the training staff keeping him off.

Sitting him on and off for short rests instead of completely sidelining him and letting him go through a proper recovery regimen isn’t being cautious and proactive, it’s doing the bare minimum.

The fact that he keeps needing to sit out demonstrates that he should’ve just been given a period of time to go through a rehab regimen and get 100% healthy instead of playing a few games, resting, then playing again, without ever fixing his lingering issues.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Benning was on SN650 today, and he said that the scans for Boeser were negative since the beginning, so it was about Boeser playing through the pain. That's the dialogue going on. Essentially, he hasn't suffered an injury, technically, yet he hasn't recovered to the point where he is fully healthy either.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Banning was on SN650 today, and he said that the scans for Boeser were negative since the beginning, so it was about Boeser playing through the pain. That's the dialogue going on. Essentially, he hasn't suffered an injury, technically, yet he hasn't recovered to the point where he is fully healthy either.

There are countless examples in professional sports where the scans didn’t detect anything yet the player still had some sort of problem that was going undetected and only presented itself when the player injured themselves later.

If he’s in pain, they need to send him to a specialist to find out what’s really wrong.

Playing through the pain and crossing your fingers that the issues correct themselves is a fools errand, and potentially very dangerous.

 

[elwin316]

Guessing we won't be seeing Boeser until at least November 17th:

https://www.tsn.ca/ice-chips-boeser-flying-home-from-boston-1.1206217

 

[Curmudgeon]

Guessing we won't be seeing Boeser until at least November 17th:

https://www.tsn.ca/ice-chips-boeser-flying-home-from-boston-1.1206217

The team's doing the right thing here just as they were when they sat Pettersson for an extra bit.

Now they need to call up Dahlen and get him in there with his buddy, move Eriksson down, and sit Liepsic.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Why is it so hard for posters to believe that its Boeser thats obviously been wanting to play through this.. its a contract year !!

Put yourself in that position. Theres millions of dollars on the line for him. The tests said negative so obviously he wants to play.

If anything, its the management and training staff that is saying enough is enough.

 

[elwin316]

The team's doing the right thing here just as they were when they sat Pettersson for an extra bit.

Now they need to call up Dahlen and get him in there with his buddy, move Eriksson down, and sit Liepsic.

Agreed, this would be a great opportunity for Dahlen. It would also show that having an AHL team on the East Coast isn't always such a bad thing

 

[Josepho]

i for one am SHOCKED that it got worse

 

[THE Green Man]

Why is it so hard for posters to believe that its Boeser thats obviously been wanting to play through this.. its a contract year !!

Put yourself in that position. Theres millions of dollars on the line for him. The tests said negative so obviously he wants to play.

If anything, its the management and training staff that is saying enough is enough.

But is it worth it if he severely re-injures it again? Miss 5 games now to hopefully play all year. Or play now get hurt and miss 20 games. It's a double edged sword that can cut you either way but I think taking the precautions route is the smart route with a groin injury that doesn't take much to re-tweak.

 

[tantalum]

i for one am SHOCKED that it got worse

Truly. I've never heard of groin injuries getting worse when using your groin a lot for things like, say, skating.

Let the poor kid heal for christs sake.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

If I played professional sports, I'd being dealing with a pulled groin frequently as well.

 

[TruGr1t]

ORLY? Bone head organization does bone head things? Shocker.

 

[BassMason]

Remember when they let him walk off the ice with a broken back?

Remember when he came into camp clearly not fully rehabbed from a broken back?

Remember when that not fully rehabbed player tweaked his groin pushing his body harder than it was ready for?

Remember when he played through a tweaked groin to the point where he had to sit out TWO separate times before finally seeing a specialist?

****** bush league

 

[HankNDank]

Sitting him on and off for short rests instead of completely sidelining him and letting him go through a proper recovery regimen isn’t being cautious and proactive, it’s doing the bare minimum.

The fact that he keeps needing to sit out demonstrates that he should’ve just been given a period of time to go through a rehab regimen and get 100% healthy instead of playing a few games, resting, then playing again, without ever fixing his lingering issues.

There was a star player back in the 90's, you may or may not have heard of him, named Jamomir Jagr. He had a groin injury, and played though it. It also devastated his career to the point where he was forced to quit the game altogether, he certainly didn't play over 1700 games, that's for sure.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/nhl/longterm/1999/playoffs/pitnj03.htm?noredirect=on

 

[tantalum]

Ah yes because your 100+ point superstar playing through injury in the playoffs when his team needed help (he missed 4 previous games btw) is immediately comparable to at best a bubble team (likely bottom feeder) competing for points in October and November.

And Paul Kariya can tell you a lot about other injuries that can crop up when you are nursing a different injury instead of letting it heal. So can countless other players.

And I don't think I see anyone saying playing is going to cause him long term or cost him his career. Just that it makes almost zero sense for this team to not let him heal.

 

[HankNDank]

Ah yes because your 100+ point superstar playing through injury in the playoffs when his team needed help (he missed 4 previous games btw) is immediately comparable to at best a bubble team (likely bottom feeder) competing for points in October and November.

And Paul Kariya can tell you a lot about other injuries that can crop up when you are nursing a different injury instead of letting it heal. So can countless other players.

And I don't think I see anyone saying playing is going to cause him long term or cost him his career. Just that it makes almost zero sense for this team to not let him heal.

Actually...

I’m actually seriously worried that these injuries could linger throughout his career.

The guy I quoted did say that.

 

[CherryToke]

I don't believe that it's a groin injury. It's probably his back and that crosscheck from Calvert re-aggravated it.

 

[tantalum]

Actually...


The guy I quoted did say that.

and it could linger for some time...again ask Kariya. Doesn't mean it's threatening his overall career.

 

[I am toxic]

I don't believe that it's a groin injury. It's probably his back and that crosscheck from Calvert re-aggravated it.

And after that game, Green said that it was a hockey play, strongly implying no immediate on-ice response was needed by the Canuck players.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I swear, ppl will always find a thing to complain
They are resting him now until he’s 100%
End of story
Stop with all the BS talks