Brian Burke says likely no more hockey in 2020

[tarheelhockey]

The thing is, in order for the sports leagues to start back up, the commissioners need to be 100% certain not a single member of any organization has COVID-19.

Then they may as well fold and sell off their assets. There will never be 100% certainty of protection. Not 5 months from now, not 5 years from now. Even after a vaccine is finally distributed many months from now, the virus is going to keep mutating as it is already doing. People will continue to fall ill for the indefinite future.

The purpose of shutting things down is not simply to prevent people from catching the virus per se. The purpose of the shutdowns is to create a longer timeline of exposure, delaying the spread long enough to allow for a coordinated response. Once that response is developed enough to be effective, things will go back to normal with the understanding that we now live with another serious illness running around in the world a la malaria.

 

[swiftwin]

So you're saying we're being coddled because this may be the third worst year for deaths in approaching 80 years?

In this world of modern medicine it is going to potentially kill half a million people despite the entire world shutting down to prevent it. Without these preventative measures this could have been ten million people, easily.

It really is so bad.

I'm saying we're coddled because people whined that 2017 (or was it 2016? I don't remember) was the worst year everrrr because so many celebrities died. Did you even read what I posted?

 

[NewtJorden]

Jarmo Kekäläinen was on Kimmo Timonen's podcast "Kimanttia" and he said the NHL plans to finish the season even as late as early September.

I personally think this would be very stupid. As much as i would love hockey to be back, anything that would go pass mid-July wouldnt be logical to me.

 

[JT Kreider]

I personally think this would be very stupid. As much as i would love hockey to be back, anything that would go pass mid-July wouldnt be logical to me.

The players are going to get obliterated in escrow if the season is not resumed with no playoffs. They will fight for their lives to make sure that does not happen, even if means dragging it out into October and pushing back next season to a January start with a condensed 60 or whatever game schedule

 

[theblackadder]

Jarmo Kekäläinen was on Kimmo Timonen's podcast "Kimanttia" and he said the NHL plans to finish the season even as late as early September.

yes. yes. yes.

 

[the_fan]

If the league and the players are willing to play into July and August like it was reported, they might be able to do playoffs with teams that are currently in. Some might say it wont be fair to the teams who are point or two outside of the playoffs but guess what, those teams still wont get a chance if they completely cancel the season. The only way I see a season being saved is if this thing ends by late June and they just do playoffs into July and August.

 

[ffh]

Jarmo Kekäläinen was on Kimmo Timonen's podcast "Kimanttia" and he said the NHL plans to finish the season even as late as early September.

just in time for the flu season to start again and the start of another wave. i'm looking for hockey to start up again when they have a vaccine in a year or so.

 

[Fisticuffer]

I know if I’m still cooped up until August there’s little chance I’ll be excited about the prospect of staying indoors to watch t.v. I love hockey but I am and would be missing too much of the good life . Even though my team would be in the playoffs all the momentum for this season will have been lost. I survived the pissing away of 04/05 season due to greed, missing this season to utilize common sense and for the common good wouldn’t hurt nearly as much.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I'm saying we're coddled because people whined that 2017 (or was it 2016? I don't remember) was the worst year everrrr because so many celebrities died. Did you even read what I posted?

Do you think people really believed that, though? Shitposting about celebs on social media isn’t quite the same thing as having a sincere belief about the course of human civilization.

 

[haveandare]

I’d be very surprised if sports aren’t more or less back to normal by next fall. most companies I’ve heard plans for are talking about expecting to be back in offices in May or June. The virus won’t be gone of course, but it never will be and neither are any number of others. The whole point of this is easing the load on hospitals for the severe cases.

 

[The Sweetness]

just in time for the flu season to start again and the start of another wave. i'm looking for hockey to start up again when they have a vaccine in a year or so.

By that time I’d think we will have 1) testing to see who has had it and 2) enough people who have already caught it so that it’ll be hard to justify any kind of quarantine or shutdown of sports.

 

[The Sweetness]

I’d be very surprised if sports aren’t more or less back to normal by next fall. most companies I’ve heard plans for are talking about expecting to be back in offices in May or June. The virus won’t be gone of course, but it never will be and neither are any number of others. The whole point of this is easing the load on hospitals for the severe cases.

The virus may not even start peaking until May or late May. No way companies will consider opening their offices when the death rate is through the roof. Sweden is far ahead of the US and it’s looking more likely our peak may be late April.

It’ll obviously vary geographically as the US is so big but being back in the office in May seems incredibly unlikely.

 

[swiftwin]

Do you think people really believed that, though? Shitposting about celebs on social media isn’t quite the same thing as having a sincere belief about the course of human civilization.

Course of human civilization? C'mon man. This is what I'm talking about. Yes, this is a huge f***ing deal. But course of human civilization? This is exactly why I posted the list of historical events. History is littered with events of of bigger magnitude. Many in the last century.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

That's a bold prediction. I for one, think this season has sailed away but no Hockey in 2020 means delayed start to next year as well, let's hope the situation is under control sooner.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Then they may as well fold and sell off their assets. There will never be 100% certainty of protection. Not 5 months from now, not 5 years from now. Even after a vaccine is finally distributed many months from now, the virus is going to keep mutating as it is already doing. People will continue to fall ill for the indefinite future.

The purpose of shutting things down is not simply to prevent people from catching the virus per se. The purpose of the shutdowns is to create a longer timeline of exposure, delaying the spread long enough to allow for a coordinated response. Once that response is developed enough to be effective, things will go back to normal with the understanding that we now live with another serious illness running around in the world a la malaria.

Your first paragraph sums up exactly why people do not think hockey will be back in the rest of the calendar year of 2020.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Course of human civilization? C'mon man. This is what I'm talking about. Yes, this is a huge f***ing deal. But course of human civilization? This is exactly why I posted the list of historical events. History is littered with events of of bigger magnitude. Many in the last century.

I’m not saying anything about the course of civilization. I’m responding to your assertion that people thought 2017 was the worst year ever, and asking if you think people really believed that outside of online shitposting.

 

[swiftwin]

I’m not saying anything about the course of civilization. I’m responding to your assertion that people thought 2017 was the worst year ever, and asking if you think people really believed that outside of online shitposting.

Yeah, I do believe some people really believed it. There are lots of really stupid people out there.

 

[McDrailers]

I know for sure that if this goes long into 2020 not many people in my province will be able to afford an ECHL ticket, let alone NHL.

 

[Soundwave]

I think they can do fan-less games in centralized locations that cut out travel once the rapid COVID19 tests (the ones that can be done in 15-45 minutes) become more widespread. Perhaps even with family/friends of players allowed to attend in a manageable small number.

Everyone would have to submit to testing and the playing arenas and living quarters for the players would have to be tightly controlled.

The NBA is considering Vegas for example because teams could easily occupy one of the hotels which are currently completely vacant, that's an easy way to create a controlled environment. You hire the room service/cooking staff as well and they test every day before being given entrance into the facilities.

Games with fans in the traditional sense though (as in thousands of people sitting side by side) ... who knows.

If nothing else I think they could do a "Corona Cup" (not the actual name obviously just a moniker) tournament without fans in fixed locations and donate a portion of advertising revenue to hospital charities and other community charities hit hard by this situation.

 

[1865]

There doesn't need to be a huge delay between the end of this season and the new one. They're getting at least three or four months off now which is most of the summer anyway. Finish this season, get the draft and free agency done inside two weeks, get camp going a month later and end the 20/21 season a month or so late.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

The longer this goes on the worst it gets. It isn't just NHL owners and players you have to think about its the fans too. Fans have lost there jobs and the last thing they are going to be thinking about is paying to go watch a hockey game. This will take years for the economy to bounce back and its going to be a slow process too. I am one of those fans that got laid off and my last thought process is to go see a damn hockey game it is to survive and get my finances in order and to get stable again. Most people in this world is living pay cheque to pay cheque and I believe I read a huge chunk of people cannot even afford a unexpected 400 dollar expense so if fans cannot afford to fill arenas that will also effect escrow and the cap does it not? ( I have very little knowledge on these types of things)

 

[jalidi]

This season is over. Even October looks pretty dicey at this point. It's doubtful we will be able to get it under control until the vaccine becomes available. They're rushing but Trump saying that it'll be ready by November is a fallacy; more likely sometime 2021.

 

[SladeWilson23]

I really hope we could listen in on this.

 

[thaman8765678]

I’d be very surprised if sports aren’t more or less back to normal by next fall. most companies I’ve heard plans for are talking about expecting to be back in offices in May or June. The virus won’t be gone of course, but it never will be and neither are any number of others. The whole point of this is easing the load on hospitals for the severe cases.

It's time to get a reality check, there will be no hockey this spring or summer.

We heard just yesterday the government could start lifting a few rules by end of August but they also expect a second wave a month or 2 after that.

This is going to be at least 18 months of dealing with this according to the research. The only thing that would save the NHL season is if in a couple months everyone decides to just accept the fact that 1% of the population will die. Could happen to save the economy.

 

[thaman8765678]

I’d be very surprised if sports aren’t more or less back to normal by next fall. most companies I’ve heard plans for are talking about expecting to be back in offices in May or June. The virus won’t be gone of course, but it never will be and neither are any number of others. The whole point of this is easing the load on hospitals for the severe cases.

It's time to get a reality check, there will be no hockey this spring or summer.

We heard just yesterday the government could start lifting a few rules by end of August but they also expect a second wave a month or 2 after that.

This is going to be at least 18 months of dealing with this according to the research. The only thing that would save the NHL season is if in a couple months everyone decides to just accept the fact that 1% of the population will die. Could happen to save the economy.