Proposal: Brayden Point for Kakko

[LordZapp]

Tampa needs to add a couple of 1st rd picks.

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[LTIR Trickery]

Wanted to revisit this one for one deal.

I can recall last summer a certain fan group among a few others strongly against a Kakko for Point straight up hockey trade.

It was a magic beans trade for a proven 90 point NHL center with tons of speed and skill who was 23-24 years old at the time.

If the deal is on the table now, considering all aspects like contracts, ages, point productions etc what does the HF world think one year later? Curious if anything moved the needle? I'm writing a thesis for my Ice hockey English literature combo class. Thanks!

Kakko and what? You think you're getting an established 1C for a guy just drafted struggling in his first year?

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Kakko for Cirelli.

LOL. You want us to throw in Lafreniere while we're at it?

 

[HoseEmDown]

LOL. You want us to throw in Lafreniere while we're at it.

Cirelli for Kakko is a lot closer than Point for Kakko.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Cirelli for Kakko is a lot closer than Point for Kakko.

Neither is close

 

[Dirk316]

Rangers fan are coming close to Toronto in overating players

 

[cwede]

Just f'in silly thread,
not about hockey,
just a thread for cocky chest thumping
Kakko not in play,
neither is Point,
and neither team would consider adding

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

No on every level from the Rangers. Let Tampa try to win now. Lafrenierre and Kakko will be cornerstone pieces for a decade for the Rangers.

 

[bernmeister]

Neither is close

Cirelli is not close totality of circumstances. He could blossom further, but Kakko was a friggin teenager with no seasoning made jump to pros. Cirelli could be an improved stellar version of his already solid, excellent self. KK has potential to be that, + huge beast factor.
no.

Point is more talent and closer, but it is not a match.
Rangers are keeping their younger bluest chips.
TB can enjoy its fine roster, which will be difficult to continue to afford going forward.

 

[HabsMD97]

I'm sorry but Point is easily worth Lafreniere+ and i'm not even a fan of Tampa. 24 year true #1 centers don't grow on trees, and Point is a top 10 centerman easily.

 

[Dietpepsi]

As a Sabres fan I always thought if Eichel wants out then a trade w/ Point could be possible..
I don't think Kakko gets you close..

 

[LTIR Trickery]

As a Sabres fan I always thought if Eichel wants out then a trade w/ Point could be possible..
I don't think Kakko gets you close..

It would have to be Kakko and one hell of an add. 24 year old signed 3 years under 7 million and seems to be a lock for 60+ points a year. Make no mistake who is paying here.

 

[Halla]

no. not doing it 1:1 let alone add




room for Point to excel even further but huge potential upside for Kakko.
consider cap, exp dr exempt etc answer is no.



No

would consider something around Deangelo for Cirelli
Not KK

you wouldnt do kaako for a young c that has hit 40g/90pts?

awful. point >>>>>kaako. Kaaako may or may not one day be as good as point

 

[Halla]

Tampa needs to add a couple of 1st rd picks.

is this

a) sarcasm
b) you wrote tampa instead of NYR by mistake
c) a terrible take

 

[bernmeister]

you wouldnt do kaako for a young c that has hit 40g/90pts?

awful. point >>>>>kaako. Kaaako may or may not one day be as good as point

You ignored what I said about exp drft, cap, totality of circumstances, etc.

Kakko may be worse/as good/better.

But it is different needs.

Point is basically a sniper, that's it.
Could always use another, but we have Panarin now reinforced by LaF.

But Kakko could be the beast factor NY needs which is not seen other than Kreider.

 

[AcerComputer]

Point is one of the best players in the league, and Kappo's stock has fallen off a cliff

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Point is one of the best players in the league, and Kappo's stock has fallen off a cliff

That’s a huge exaggeration.

 

[Barnaby]

What contender trades their young #1 franchise center in the middle of a cup window?

 

[Barnaby]

Point is one of the best players in the league, and Kappo's stock has fallen off a cliff

Point is easily more valuable, but that’s a bit of an exaggeration on Kakko.

 

[Hockeyholic]

There's a pretty short list of players I'd be happy to see in a 1-for-1 for Point.

McDavid
MacK
Draisaitl
Eichel

Only four I can think where TB doesn't immediately hang up

 

[DistantThunderRep]

You ignored what I said about exp drft, cap, totality of circumstances, etc.

Kakko may be worse/as good/better.

But it is different needs.

Point is basically a sniper, that's it.
Could always use another, but we have Panarin now reinforced by LaF.

But Kakko could be the beast factor NY needs which is not seen other than Kreider.

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[DistantThunderRep]

You ignored what I said about exp drft, cap, totality of circumstances, etc.

Kakko may be worse/as good/better.

But it is different needs.

Point is basically a sniper, that's it.
Could always use another, but we have Panarin now reinforced by LaF.

But Kakko could be the beast factor NY needs which is not seen other than Kreider.

If you think Point is only a sniper, you either never watch him play or have your head buried in the ground hot boxing the shit out of it. Maybe you're taking it personally that no one besides you thinks Kakko is worth more one to one today than Point.

Here's a hint, the player you describe as only a sniper, finished top 10 in Selke votes last season.

 

[Flyer lurker]

If you think Point is only a sniper, you either never watch him play or have your head buried in the ground hot boxing the shit out of it. Maybe you're taking it personally that no one besides you thinks Kakko is worth more one to one today than Point.

Here's a hint, the player you describe as only a sniper, finished top 10 in Selke votes last season.

If you are watching the playoffs with Mackinnon being the only exception being better (and since dallas just tied it 3-3 ruh roh) you have to say Point is the leader today for MVP of the playoffs. All that and at a good salary price too. That means he won't get traded for excellent maybes but still maybes.

 

[n8]

Kakko's stock has likely fallen since last year, and even then, it wasn't even within sniffing distance.

lol, no way. Point's stock went up.
Kakko is 19 years old and he was right up there with Hughes and Dach in points for 2019 draft class members. Most goals for the 2019 class so far.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

McDavid
MacK
Draisaitl
Eichel

Only four I can think where TB doesn't immediately hang up

I'd conditionally add Makar, Heiskanen, and Quinn Hughes to that list because of their position and contract status (that list being "Not immediately hang up for").