Player Discussion Brandon Manning

[elmeroil]

At what? Not being on the ice, he's great at that.

Wow the clear hate you have for Manning isn't obvious at least. I'm now wondering if you have actually watched his few games as an Oiler.

 

[McJadeddog]

I'm not loving Petrovic, and Manning is awful.

Yeah this is pretty much correct IMO. Petrovic hasn't been AWFUL, but he hasn't been great. Manning is downright terrible for the most part. Simply terrible.

 

[North]

Yeah this is pretty much correct IMO. Petrovic hasn't been AWFUL, but he hasn't been great. Manning is downright terrible for the most part. Simply terrible.

This is nonsense built on resentment because of something he did in the past.

You can certainly see who won’t give Manning a chance based on these comments.

 

[Cloned]

Manning has been better on D than anyone not named Jones and Larsson in the last two games.

 

[blue_n_copper]

Three days ago everyone was sure that the team was going to blow up with Manning on it because Connor is like a 14 year old girl who is still obsessing over something Manning said to him on the ice years ago. After two games of solid relatively mistake free play and ample evidence of a healthy mean streak from Manning there are people still clinging to this narrative? Wow, usually you have to visit a political message board to see this level of delusion. I welcome Manning to the team and can't wait for him to introduce himself to little Johnny Hockey the next time we play the Flames.

 

[elmeroil]

Does he sit when Russell gets back? Or do they send Jones back down?

Jones deserves to stay right now, he has looked very good.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

His mobility is limited but he competes hard, takes no **** from anyone and has shown the ability to get pucks up to the forwards on lengthy passes. As a 3rd pairing defenseman he looks serviceable out there and after 2 games, better than what Chicago fans described to us.

 

[Fourier]

Jones deserves to stay right now, he has looked very good.

I agree. But eventually the fact that Jones is waiver exempt will likely see him going down. They can waive Gravel but would they waive one of Manning, Benning or Petrovic? Maybe Benning since he is not a guy they just gave up assets for. BUt I doubt they would do this in season if they could send Jones back.

 

[frag2]

Manning has been better on D than anyone not named Jones and Larsson in the last two games.

His game is simple and is fine for 5-6D

Petrovic playing top 4 is the problem .

 

[elmeroil]

I agree. But eventually the fact that Jones is waiver exempt will likely see him going down. They can waive Gravel but would they waive one of Manning, Benning or Petrovic? Maybe Benning since he is not a guy they just gave up assets for. BUt I doubt they would do this in season if they could send Jones back.

Do we get a vote? My vote is waive Benning!

 

[snipes]

Manning has been better on D than anyone not named Jones and Larsson in the last two games.

Which is pathetic in and of itself.

 

[North]

Which is pathetic in and of itself.

This is what happens when you have injuries to defenseman like Klefbom, Russell, and Sekera. If we had all three of those guys like they were when they were injury free our d would be leaps and bounds better but we haven’t had a fully healthy d corps since Sekera got injured in the playoffs.

 

[McFlyingV]

He makes less mistakes than Benning so I guess I'm fine with him on the bottom pairing with how he's played so far.

When Klef and Russell return I'd prefer to see:

Klef-Lars
Nurse-Russell
Jones-Petrovic
Manning

If Sekera can make it back and look half decent then I think Petrovic drops to the 7th D. Jones has looked good enough to keep his spot over those two, and really he brings a nice dimension we lack on the back end.

 

[JayE]

Both Manning and Petrovic have been serviceable as bottom pairing Dmen so far. Petrovic is a better skater than I remembered and his first pass hasn't been a complete disaster; he very well could be a better option than Benning if he keeps his level of play up. They're obviously not long-term solutions for anything, but they're an improvement on what we had and serviceable stop-gaps until we get healthy. Why it took this long to make any improvements to the defensive depth in the organization is anyone's guess.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

His mobility is limited but he competes hard, takes no **** from anyone and has shown the ability to get pucks up to the forwards on lengthy passes. As a 3rd pairing defenseman he looks serviceable out there and after 2 games, better than what Chicago fans described to us.

That's why I think for whatever reason he just didn't "click" in Chicago. Let him get accustomed to the coaching, the system and his teammates before slapping the "trash" label on him. This road trip is important to him and Petrovic to bond with his new teammates.

 

[McShogun99]

Do we get a vote? My vote is waive Benning!

I see Benning as a young Petry. He'll become a decent 2nd/3rd pairing Dman in a few years.

 

[Morpheus]

He has not, if you think he's been fine, then you're looking for something that isn't there.

Do you even watch games?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Do you even watch games?

I have, he's been just awful

Edit: He's not better then Jones or Gravel, and there are other guys who still play infront of those 2. He's awful

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Wow the clear hate you have for Manning isn't obvious at least. I'm now wondering if you have actually watched his few games as an Oiler.

He's an expensive and bad hockey player who doesn't make the team better. There are already enough of those players here, adding another one while pretending he's something that he's not, doesn't help.

Brandon Manning is terrible.

 

[Canada Drai]

I have, he's been just awful

Edit: He's not better then Jones or Gravel, and there are other guys who still play infront of those 2. He's awful

 

[North]

I have, he's been just awful

Edit: He's not better then Jones or Gravel, and there are other guys who still play infront of those 2. He's awful

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.

 

[elmeroil]

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I see Benning as a young Petry. He'll become a decent 2nd/3rd pairing Dman in a few years.

Petry can skate circles around benning, is larger, better shot.

 

[Oilhawks]

His mobility is limited but he competes hard, takes no **** from anyone and has shown the ability to get pucks up to the forwards on lengthy passes. As a 3rd pairing defenseman he looks serviceable out there and after 2 games, better than what Chicago fans described to us.

It’s difficult (and often inaccurate) to evaluate a player in a vacuum, while Stan Bowman has made some odd decisions, he’s not terrible IMO (though he’s hit his expiration date with the Hawks). They liked what they saw of him in Philly obviously (and must have had some competition as we know Chia was interested last year and also given what Manning signed for there must have been other suitors). A lot of people were determined that he is garbage but Chicago has been a tire fire this year. As we know all too well, it’s usually not just the player to blame for lacklustre performance. Happens to every team where a player regains form on another team after a short stint with them. Fingers crossed that we are the beneficiaries in this case.

 

[frag2]

It’s difficult (and often inaccurate) to evaluate a player in a vacuum, while Stan Bowman has made some odd decisions, he’s not terrible IMO (though he’s hit his expiration date with the Hawks). They liked what they saw of him in Philly obviously (and must have had some competition as we know Chia was interested last year and also given what Manning signed for there must have been other suitors). A lot of people were determined that he is garbage but Chicago has been a tire fire this year. As we know all too well, it’s usually not just the player to blame for lacklustre performance. Happens to every team where a player regains form on another team after a short stint with them. Fingers crossed that we are the beneficiaries in this case.

Problem with Manning, given our cap situation, is just the extra year IMO and the cap hit.

But if you just look at it from a "where he plays" perspective, as a bottom pairing D
he' fine. Better than Benning for sure