Confirmed with Link: Brandon Manning signs 2-year deal ($975K AAV)

[kelmitchell]

I would be the most objective one here.

Have you by chance been on heavy narcotics today?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I would be the most objective one here.

wow... do you even read what you type ???

 

[kudymen]

If(or when)he plays well this year, I expect formal apologies from everyone. In addition, I will expect premium seats when I come up to Philly from Richmond for a couple of games this year. Beer would be nice as well

Not a plausible bet. I mean, you have been praising his play in the most unexpected games so I guess you would demand those seats and beers no matter what

I would be the most objective one here.

That is some kind of a Michael Scott quote, "I am the most objective person to judge myself"

 

[Rick Deckard]

And again, you apparently need to be reminded that Manning is easily the worse defensemen on the roster. Streit, Schultz, and MacDonald are all better than him (disregarding contracts).

Contracts doesn't matter anymore, at least with regard to players send down to the minors. Each of the four mentioned makes more than the $950k you can hide in the AHL. There isn't any cap relief for sending MacDonald instead of Manning to the AHL, therfor the "best" will stay in Philadelphia.

 

[Rick Deckard]

I love how it's had to be explained 50 times in this thread why a 2 year deal was necessary. Read the thread, guys. Hextall isn't stupid. There's an easy explanation for this. Don't just lash out with no background info like a ****ing WIP caller.

Technically, a one year deal and a qualifying offer afterwards would have done it too. The rules say player under contract or restricted free agent.

Result would've been the same though.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Technically, a one year deal and a qualifying offer afterwards would have done it too. The rules say player under contract or restricted free agent.

Result would've been the same though.

Manning would have been a UFA next summer not an RFA. He'll be 27 on June 4th, 2017.

 

[Irwin]

The best theory or reasoning for the contract i read here or in twitter was, that they have to play him under 20 games to be eligible for the expansion draft. Macdonald would have to play over 40 games.

I'm not too frustrated with the contract, because we should have Del Zotto healthy in the line up. Manning won't be getting a lot of minutes, let alone games if there aren't any major injury issues.

 

[Striiker]

Contracts doesn't matter anymore, at least with regard to players send down to the minors. Each of the four mentioned makes more than the $950k you can hide in the AHL. There isn't any cap relief for sending MacDonald instead of Manning to the AHL, therfor the "best" will stay in Philadelphia.

I know, I only mentioned that because I was expecting a response of "well I'd rather have Manning at 950k than MacDonald at 5m!!!".

 

[Hiesenberg]

Manning would have been a UFA next summer not an RFA. He'll be 27 on June 4th, 2017.

Shoots a hole in that logic, huh?

 

[Rick Deckard]

Manning would have been a UFA next summer not an RFA. He'll be 27 on June 4th, 2017.

Shoots a hole in that logic, huh?

Thought about that, but counted the seasons and came up with six ... wasn't aware he was signed after his overage junior season ...

 

[He Is Knocking]

Intelligent move by a Hextall. It's refreshing to see a GM that leaves no stone unturned in the quest to build a winning club (hopefully Stanley Cup contender) and also to keep the as much talent in house as he can. Hextall had quite a bit of heavy lifting to do to clean up the cap after he took over and IMO there's not many that could have put the Flyers in the position where they are now.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

It's obvious that he was resigned to "handle" McDavid twice a year

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

It's obvious that he was resigned to "handle" McDavid twice a year

Yeah that's about the biggest impact he'll ever have. Manning single-handedly changed the outcome of the Calder Trophy race.

 

[Striiker]

Should've got rid of Panarin too... but I guess he's just not a good enough teammate... really let Ghost down.

 

[bb12]

Can some one explain to me (and I'm sorry if I'm late to the party) but for expansion purposes why is manning so necessary? I mean maybe it's just me but I'd perfer to rotate streit Shultz and Mac to get amac to the number of games?

Or do you guys really think amac is gonna get buried in the minors again? I can't makes sense of the log jam on d especially with multiple ahl signings. Don't really get where everyone is to go

 

[Striiker]

Can some one explain to me (and I'm sorry if I'm late to the party) but for expansion purposes why is manning so necessary? I mean maybe it's just me but I'd perfer to rotate streit Shultz and Mac to get amac to the number of games?

Or do you guys really think amac is gonna get buried in the minors again? I can't makes sense of the log jam on d especially with multiple ahl signings. Don't really get where everyone is to go

Schultz and Streit don't have contracts for the '17-'18 season so they can't be exposed. Amac doesn't have the games played to be taken (I believe he needs like 40?). Manning only needs 14 games played to be available now that he's signed for the season after the expansion draft. If Manning wasn't available then we'd either need to make sure Amac played at least 40 games or we'd have to expose someone we don't want to expose. So by making him our expansion meat shield he makes sure we don't lose someone we want to keep and we don't need to sign one of the soon-to-be FA defensemen to meet the expansion requirement of having one defensemen available. The problem with trying to get Amac to meet the requirement is the number of games played he needs... if he got injured we'd be screwed and would need to find a way to get someone else to expose. With Manning it's quick and easy for us to use him, then either he gets taken (incredibly unlikely) or we can just bury him for the last year of his contract.

 

[dats81]

Just insurance in case MacDonald sustains a season ending injury early or hell freezes through and he suddenly becomes tradeable...

 

[bb12]

First i would like to thank you for refrencing meat shield. Second that makes much more sense. It's not saying he will play OVER Amac but he is an insurance that we protect the players we need. Kinda seems like there is a good shot of us carrying 8 d this year.

 

[Tripod]

Can some one explain to me (and I'm sorry if I'm late to the party) but for expansion purposes why is manning so necessary? I mean maybe it's just me but I'd perfer to rotate streit Shultz and Mac to get amac to the number of games?

Or do you guys really think amac is gonna get buried in the minors again? I can't makes sense of the log jam on d especially with multiple ahl signings. Don't really get where everyone is to go

See below

Yup....I thought this sums it up nicely:

Philly HAD to give him 2 years to make sure they have at least 1 Dman UNDER CONTRACT to expose to Vegas. We need to play him 14 games this year...or 40 to AMac. If AMac got hurt, we would have no one to expose....so would have to expose Gudas instead of protecting him.

That's all this is. If there was no expansion, Philly only signs him for 1 year....or maybe not at all. Who knows. But we HAD to have someone to expose to Vegas.

MDZ: no contract....protect if he re-signs.
Ghost: protect
Gudas: protect
Streit: UFA next summer
Schultz: UFA next summer
Provy: obviously protected

AMac: needs to play 40 games to expose to Vegas if Manning doesn't play 14
Manning: needs you play 14 games to expose to Vegas if AMac doesn't play 40

So again....this is just as much an expansion move as it is a hockey move.

 

[Tripod]

On a side note, meat shield is going to be the best nickname for a player in awhile!

 

[bb12]

It all makes sense now. I understood the requirements but never put 2 and 2 together and the value of insurance

 

[Striiker]

Really wasn't expecting "meat shield" to catch on like this.

 

[klutch]

Team picture for the expansion draft

 

[bb12]

Really wasn't expecting "meat shield" to catch on like this.

It's here to stay

 

[Striiker]

It's here to stay

Fine by me, I only wish it was more insulting. .