Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part VII

[DueDiligence]

I have been corrected that a deal was offered a month ago. My guy was obviously wrong. Having said that, talks have been going on a while.

If a deal was offered a month ago what were the terms?

 

[SensFactor]

Melnyk is the root cause of our demise...other teams must love us as we draft well, develop and then trade away all of our talent. Stone, Karlsson, Pageau, Hoffman, Hossa, Havlat....its depressing

The only player that stayed through all the BS was Alfie and even he left after being screwed on salary.

 

[Bileur]

How is it a farce? Do you know that BT and his camp are being reasonable or close to that? What if they want $10 million x 8 years with 50% in yearly bonuses?

Why should the team get the benefit of the doubt when several posters have listed all the players with whom the sens couldn’t get deals done?

 

[Ice-Tray]

Incoming pointless thought stream…

Honestly, the best thing we can do as fans is ignore the whole thing and not allow ourselves to be used as emotional pawns to put pressure on the team. In my opinion….

Our team has kept things quiet, and by all accounts have kept negotiations fair and positive.

We have heard some stuff out of the Tkachuk camp through guys like Simmer that has been geared towards making Brady look like the victim a bit, and to let the public know that they will be making things difficult. Interestingly they have not tried to make the management team look bad which is a very good sign on their end.

Having said all of that, if we the fans ignore all of the speculation about what’s going on in the background (I know, impossible), it would make things go smoother for us, and the team. There is a lot to look at and argue about on the ice, and Brady will sign something eventually, without a doubt.

We could stop ourselves from being used as a hammer, and in a perfect world we would. We’d accept that negotiations are theatre, and chicken, and manipulations, and it is between PD and Oster. Everything else is just noise, and attempts to apply us as pressure.

Obviously we’re going to continue to argue back and forth in here, and some will continue to insult our management team, while others will blame the ‘Greedy Tkachuks’. A shame really, as turning the channel would be the best solution for all parties involved.

I will reiterate that I am pleased that our management group have stopped speaking to the media about negotiations, and I like how the Tkachuk camp has nothing bad to say about negotiations themselves.

 

[GCK]

If a deal was offered a month ago what were the terms?

Not my info but Bert posted 8 x 8 above. I believe him 100%.

 

[bert]

Apparantely he turn down a bridge of 3 x 6 m . He want close to Matthew with significant signing bonus. Not gonna end well this negociation

Well thats terrible news overall. Pretty sad the sens have even offered a bridge deal.

 

[SensFactor]

Can't we just give Brady something else beside $$$? Tap into his non-monetary desires.

 

[aragorn]

Melnyk is the root cause of our demise...other teams must love us as we draft well, develop and then trade away all of our talent. Stone, Karlsson, Pageau, Hoffman, Hossa, Havlat....its depressing

The only player that stayed through all the BS was Alfie and even he left after being screwed on salary.

Well I'm not going to defend EM but to blame him for everything is completely unfair. Hossa wanted more than they could afford & replaced him with Heatley who turned into a very good player for them that went to the only SC appearance for this franchise. With Havlat was starting to get beat up & never really did anything after he left due to injuries. Stone didn't want to be part of any rebuild & wanted to play for a contender.

EK got Hoffman shipped out of town & we moved on from EK just in time since he has sucked since he left & he also wanted to much money for what he has left. I'm quite sure SJ is not that happy with how that deal turned out for them. Pageau was also traded because we were rebuilding & he was a mature player ready to also challenge for a SC. Ottawa is a small market team that has to watch every penny & unfortunately we don't have a trillionaire for an owner who doesn't care how much money he loses. It's easy for fans to spend his money but even he has to be careful as to how much he spends or loses.

 

[playasRus]

Can't see Brady making less than Quinn Hughes on same term.

Now expecting 8M x 6 years.

 

[BondraTime]

Can't see Brady making less than Quinn Hughes on same term.

Now expecting 8M x 6 years.

That's a huge, huge overpay

 

[playasRus]

That's a huge, huge overpay

Don't like it either, but I think it's that or a 2-3 year term still similar cost, a la Petersson.

Sure am thankful today about Chabot's contract though.

 

[5ive4Fighting]

Can't we just give Brady something else beside $$$? Tap into his non-monetary desires.

I think we did? The offer of the captaincy at 22 on on up and coming team in passionate hockey town for one. If Matthew's words can be taken at face value it would appear that rather than a lure it's been used as a cudgel against the team. Contrast with Chabot is large.

 

[Micklebot]

Can't see Brady making less than Quinn Hughes on same term.

Now expecting 8M x 6 years.

I'm curious to see the structure of Hughes deal, if it's bonus heavy then it's value to him is a fair bit greater, you could probably add 10% of the total bonus amount in tax savings.

 

[Daffy]

Tkachuk
Brannstrom

For

Robert Thomas
Parayko

Get it done Pierre!!!!

 

[Masked]

Well thats terrible news overall. Pretty sad the sens have even offered a bridge deal.

That's fake news. If it was true it would be reported by more than just some guy at work who heard it on the FAN.

Assen na yo!

 

[Masked]

Tkachuk
Brannstrom

For

Robert Thomas
Parayko

Get it done Pierre!!!!

I'd sooner ship you to St Louis for a Blues fan to be named later!

Assen na yo!

 

[Daffy]

I'd sooner ship you to St Louis for a Blues fan to be named later!

Assen na yo!

Sweet! Vacation!!

 

[Golden_Jet]

Someone at job told me that. He have heard that at fan 590. I think it s Dreger

I doubt it’s Dreger, fan 590 is owned by Rogers, Rogers and Bell media don’t speak on each other’s networks.

 

[BondraTime]

I doubt it’s Dreger, fan 590 is owned by Rogers, Rogers and Bell media don’t speak on each other’s networks.

Yeah, pretty sure it was just water-cooler talk without any truth

 

[Golden_Jet]

Kyle Turris too .. my god, let’s just say everybody

Good thing we didn’t sign him.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Looks to be the case.

Right now we are the lowest team in the league in terms of compensation per the NHLPA

Compensation - The PA | NHLPA.com

Sitting at $51M with 22 players.
Arizona coming in 2nd lowest with $53M but 20 players.

Sitting at 60 million for 22 players AAV on capfriendly

 

[stempniaksen]

Sitting at 60 million for 22 players AAV on capfriendly

23 players.

Batherson, Zub and Murray are on backdiving deals and are making less than their AAV's this season.

 

[Micklebot]

Sitting at 60 million for 22 players AAV on capfriendly

NHLPA is giving this season's salary not AAV from the looks of it, doesn't include buyouts or retention either so far as I can tell. Also there's no roster limits, so while our number is for 22 players, the Islanders are spending 105 mil on 35 players...

So that salary cap sure is ensuring parity in team spending...

 

[coladin]

Sweet! Vacation!!

Great barbecue!

 

[DueDiligence]

Why should the team get the benefit of the doubt when several posters have listed all the players with whom the sens couldn’t get deals done?

In the Sens favour, the deals signed by Karlsson, Turris and Duchene were/are all terrible deals for their respective clubs. Thank God The Sens didn't give in on them.