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Regretting not having an avatar bet with you over whether or not the suspension would've been reinstated, JSF 
NFL: Brady suspension reinstated
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Regretting not having an avatar bet with you over whether or not the suspension would've been reinstated, JSF
Dude, I am gonna have my revenge this season
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Circumstantial evidence is not the same as no evidence.
If that's not enough for you, fine: but don't pretend there was no evidence.
Brady destroyed his phone after the NFL asked him for it. That was where "tampering with evidence" cane from.
And no, we just have to wait for Brady's book tour.
Tampering with evidence....that they already had. After he told them he wasn't going to give up his phone too...
The funny thing about text messages is that they are a 2 person action and they had the other persons phones/texts. Again, that is a complete smokescreen used by the league that gets eaten up.
The funny thing about text messages is that they are a 2 person action and they had the other persons phones/texts. Again, that is a complete smokescreen used by the league that gets eaten up.
Carolinas Identity*
I'm a bad troll...
if you need me to point out instances of when he has "bent" (to put it politely) rules, then you are beyond hope, sorry
this is only the most recent example
Enlighten me on the other times Tom Brady allegedly cheated.
This should be rich.
Dude, I am gonna have my revenge this season
Man STOP TAKING AVATAR BETS WITH HIM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
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JordanStaal#1Fan
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People would likely get over it if he did just flat out admit it. People don't like being deceived when common sense indicates it did happen.
And if it didn't, and the ball boys made all their texts up, then why are they still employed by the Patriots?
Soliloquy of a Dogge
I love you, Boots
Dude, I am gonna have my revenge this season
Lend us a QB, will ya? God forbid, if it's Sanchez... buttfumbles will probably happen.
Man STOP TAKING AVATAR BETS WITH HIM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
Be quiet, you! Why do you have to ruin a good thing?
Voight
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What he said ---
& why does he have to give up his phone? Its his personal device that likely has a lot of personal stuff on it.
" Destroyed it after the NFL asked for it".... very circumstantial. There are so many ways around this. I'll give you one.... maybe he happened to get a new phone around that time? Was he supposed to hold off on such plans just to help out the NFL?
I'm excited.
Gator Mike
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One of the "deflate" texts was sent immediately after Jastremski was shown on television holding a jacket. The game was played in Green Bay, and McNally was a part-time employee who only worked during home games.
By the way, that text read read something to the effect of "Deflate. And give someone that jacket." A lot of Patriots fans actually took that as proof that the "deflator" talk really had been about weight loss, because Jastremski had been wearing a puffy jacket, and he looked... well... he looked fat.
The NFL used that as evidence of a conspiracy during a game that McNally wasn't even at.
I've asked a lot of questions in this thread, and it's for a reason. I guess the point that I'm trying to drive home is not that absolutely nothing happened, it's that the NFL has no idea what happened. And when you have no idea what happened, and you're still docking draft picks and suspending people, that undermines the same integrity that they say they're trying to preserve.
I'll give you a somewhat hypothetical scenario.
Brady was clearly unhappy with the footballs in the Jets game, and the Patriots knew the officials had messed with them. What if Brady went to Jastremski and told him something to the effect of, "The footballs are your responsibility. You need to make sure the officials don't screw with them."
Concerned for his job, and unbeknownst to Brady, Jastremski enlists the help of McNally to measure the footballs after they've been inspected by league officials, and to make sure they're set at either 13.0 PSI or 12.5 PSI. He gives McNally a needle to let air out of them if they've been inflated, and a small pump to inflate them should the officials let air out of them.
Certainly still against the rules, but is it out of the realm of possibility? Would Brady deserve to be suspended in that scenario? Worth the largest fine in NFL history and the loss of two draft picks? Because this would just be a couple of rogue employees, and the Falcons only lost a 5th round pick for a rogue employee who pumped in fake crowd noise.
Certainty matters. And I would suggest that any sort of punishment or suspension without certainty undermines the integrity of the game.
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Voight
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He's not wrong. Embarrassing considering they have been the model franchise for the last 16 years.
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He doesn't have to cooperate. He didn't cooperate.
Then the NFL charged him with "noncooperation".
And....yes?
The NFL says they want your phone.
You say no: then destroy it.
Pretty cut 'n' dry " tampering with evidence".
again....tampering with evidence they already had via the other phones
They (Brady camp) had already told them they weren't going to establish the precedent of giving up his private phone so Goodell can just demand other players personal possessions whenever he wants.
again....the phone was a complete and total smokescreen by the league. They already had what they wanted and they were never going to get his phone to begin with, so whatever happens to it is irrelevant SINCE IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING
They (Brady camp) had already told them they weren't going to establish the precedent of giving up his private phone so Goodell can just demand other players personal possessions whenever he wants.
again....the phone was a complete and total smokescreen by the league. They already had what they wanted and they were never going to get his phone to begin with, so whatever happens to it is irrelevant SINCE IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING
He asked about having to give up his phone and they said no but continue on with your propaganda
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You don't think Brady's phone had anything possibly of interest? Why did he get a new one? Why did he destroy his old one. Now, I'm one of the most private people out there. I do delete everything off my old phone before I get my new phone so I can kind of sympathize with basically destroying it, however it is different when its being requested for view of a high power. Though I've never been in that situation.
See my prior post.
They wanted all relevant communications and they had them. They were never getting his phone because they aren't about to establish a precedent letting Goodell demand people's personal property just because he said he could. It is- once again, for the billionth time uncontested- nothing more than a total smokescreen by the league.
And also see BWO's post.
Here is what happened with the cell phone, its no mystery. Brady asked Wells, do you need to see my cell phone, he was going to give it to him, but Well said no we do not need to see it. Brady fully cooperated. Per his usual protocol, he destroyed the phone to avoid having his personal information leaked, which is happening more and more to celebrities and is a valid concern for Brady.
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Not really. Brady was never going to give him the phone. However, Wells did say he didn't need the phone.
We'll disagree about that. At any rate, why is the phone such an issue if Wells never needed it?
mouser
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The PA doesn't want any players to turn over their phones. The whole phone situation is less of a Brady thing and more of a PA union thing.
