Player Discussion Brad Marchand VI‎I

[member 96824]

I just hope his legs are nice and rested today. That extra 10 seconds of rest is key to reduce any soreness.

 

[Pia8988]

I just hope his legs are nice and rested today. That extra 10 seconds of rest is key to reduce any soreness.

Lazy defense these finals. He needs to remember he’s Brad Marchand and not Patrick Kane.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Do I have permission from the board to criticize his dumb turnovers or am I still an idiot for criticizing our leading point getter? Because that’s what the majority of the board was trying to tell me this entire season.

There is actually no question in my mind he wants to win. But he makes some terrible decisions for the sake of trying to be make finesse individuals moves multiple times every game. If I had one complaint about Cassidy, it’s that he doesn’t seem as good at weeding this kind of play out like Claude was. Oh my God, I indirectly complimented CJ. Weird day.

I think part of it is he doesn’t trust Pasta...and I don’t even blame him. Pasta’s effort level and conditioning was deplorable throughout the final stages of the regular season and the entire playoffs. The only thing which makes me hesitate exploring a trade there is the bargain contract. Regardless, I seriously think we need to explore finding another winger for that top line with Marshy and Bergeron and moving David down. And I think Marchand needs a reality check as to playing a smarter game with less finesse and cute plays.

 

[Lady Rhian]

I make no excuses for Brad getting off the ice when he did- I have no clue what happened there, and neither do the rest of you right now.Was it fatigue? Mental error? Playing through an injury that was bothering him at that moment? We don't know yet.

However- I am grateful to Brad for his outstanding defensive play throughout the regular seasons and playoffs that he has played in. He is one word- amazing. Do we all remember how many short handed goals this man has? That without his hard work as an offensive and defensive player- one of the best we've had on the Bruins, that we wouldn't have been playing a game 7 in the Cup finals?

Whenever Brad sees a lone defensemen facing a 2 or 3 on 1, that guy throws caution to the wind and speed skates down the ice to try and help them out- he's successful most of the time in doing so. No other guy on the team besides Bergy does that- no one. Bergy is a bit slower than Brad, Brad is a faster skater. Even if it meant him staying on the ice much longer than he was supposed to, he never let those defensemen down or our goalies, trying to bail them out of a scoring chance.

I also wonder if playing the point on the PP has messed him up a bit- it's not his natural position, and this is why I don't like that strategy, no matter which forward is on the point. At least if the puck goes out of the zone, Brad once again speed skates down the ice, trying to either prevent a scoring chance or to help the lone defensemen gain the puck back and head back up to the offensive zone.

In his interview last night- he was genuinely upset at himself. I read between the lines- his praise and love of his teammates- every one of them- to me, that was his apology to the team for that blunder he made.

What is such a shame in all of this is that many times over the years, Brad had bailed out his teammates when they've made mistakes. Yet last night, not one other guy scored to help cover his blunder. By the time Gryz scored, it was too late in the game.

So while Brad shares the blame for sure in this loss, the rest of the team has a bit of soul searching to do as well. Each player out there last night, both teams- knew this was it, the final game. The Blues got it, but some of the Bruins didn't. They kept waiting and waiting for what, I don't know, but not every forward played their hearts out. They all could have done better, including Brad.

I don't think anyone right now is as hard on himself as Brad is, and Rask, too. Rask said in his interview that he wished he had made at least one or both saves. Their shouldering the blame for the loss.

We also need to remember, the Bruins lost 3 other games in this series- the team lost those games, not just one guy.

 

[LSCII]

Good to see the usual people show up when it's time to criticize. Dude had an off series. Sucks, but in reality, the entire top 6 were complete no shows this series as well. This team made game 7 of the finals on the backs of the bottom 6 and Rask. With the way the entire top 6 was neutralized, I have to give STL credit for how they played it. Their approach clearly worked and stymied the team's best offensive players.

 

[Spooner st]

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Sorry I must have jinxed the Bruins by posting this earlier about Marchand.

I would of believe it if I was 5 year old. Jinxed really!

 

[Spooner st]

I make no excuses for Brad getting off the ice when he did- I have no clue what happened there, and neither do the rest of you right now.Was it fatigue? Mental error? Playing through an injury that was bothering him at that moment? We don't know yet.

However- I am grateful to Brad for his outstanding defensive play throughout the regular seasons and playoffs that he has played in. He is one word- amazing. Do we all remember how many short handed goals this man has? That without his hard work as an offensive and defensive player- one of the best we've had on the Bruins, that we wouldn't have been playing a game 7 in the Cup finals?

Whenever Brad sees a lone defensemen facing a 2 or 3 on 1, that guy throws caution to the wind and speed skates down the ice to try and help them out- he's successful most of the time in doing so. No other guy on the team besides Bergy does that- no one. Bergy is a bit slower than Brad, Brad is a faster skater. Even if it meant him staying on the ice much longer than he was supposed to, he never let those defensemen down or our goalies, trying to bail them out of a scoring chance.

I also wonder if playing the point on the PP has messed him up a bit- it's not his natural position, and this is why I don't like that strategy, no matter which forward is on the point. At least if the puck goes out of the zone, Brad once again speed skates down the ice, trying to either prevent a scoring chance or to help the lone defensemen gain the puck back and head back up to the offensive zone.

In his interview last night- he was genuinely upset at himself. I read between the lines- his praise and love of his teammates- every one of them- to me, that was his apology to the team for that blunder he made.

What is such a shame in all of this is that many times over the years, Brad had bailed out his teammates when they've made mistakes. Yet last night, not one other guy scored to help cover his blunder. By the time Gryz scored, it was too late in the game.

So while Brad shares the blame for sure in this loss, the rest of the team has a bit of soul searching to do as well. Each player out there last night, both teams- knew this was it, the final game. The Blues got it, but some of the Bruins didn't. They kept waiting and waiting for what, I don't know, but not every forward played their hearts out. They all could have done better, including Brad.

I don't think anyone right now is as hard on himself as Brad is, and Rask, too. Rask said in his interview that he wished he had made at least one or both saves. Their shouldering the blame for the loss.

We also need to remember, the Bruins lost 3 other games in this series- the team lost those games, not just one guy.

It was simply a brain fart. I'm a huge Marchand fan but it was bad.

 

[Number8]

His points total this post-season feels a little smoke and mirrors-y to me.

And after winning in 2011 he's been pretty bad in the post-season in general.

I don't get it.

I don't get it either. It really is a mystery.

I say that because I don't believe for a second that Marchand is a guy that doesn't care, mails it it, etc. He's a competitor through and through and is good buddies with Bergeron who is a warrior.

Very strange how ineffective that top line was 5 v 5. There were some good defensive matchups against them in playoffs in general but it's not like they were facing annual Selke winners series after series.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Can we please split up Marcheron? Its been 9 years those 2 have been glued together. I want JDB with Bergy.

JDB-Bergy-Pasta 1A
Marchand-Coyle-Mojo 1B
Krejci line 3

 

[bobber]

Blues had something going for them besides Binner being hot in the play offs. They went from last to winning the cup since January. It's a team that gelled and be lived in their goalie and themselves. They capitolized on many chances to get to this moment.

 

[Spooner st]

Can we please split up Marcheron? Its been 9 years those 2 have been glued together. I want JDB with Bergy.

JDB-Bergy-Pasta 1A
Marchand-Coyle-Mojo 1B
Krejci line 3

This should be the new name for the line. Marcheron.

 

[Spooner st]

Blues had something going for them besides Binner being hot in the play offs. They went from last to winning the cup since January. It's a team that gelled and be lived in their goalie and themselves. They capitolized on many chances to get to this moment.

Bull f***ing shit.

 

[Jaguar God]

Cost us a cup for the second time in 6 years. I can't shake my anger right now.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Cost us a cup for the second time in 6 years. I can't shake my anger right now.

I think that goal is on almost everyone else more than Brad. He made the play to push the guy outside its only because of the time left in the period the change is questioned.

Gryzlyk didn't step up, Pasta didn't backcheck hard, and Rask should have stopped it. Not sure why Gryz was on the ice with McAvoy there and not Chara or Moore.

 

[easton117]

Suggesting to trade any one of:

Marchand

Bergeron

Pastrnak

is a horrid thought. If you suggest it, you're 2-6 PM Felger and Mazz Stoo-ped (That's the highest level of stupidity you can get, imo).

You'd think this fan base has learned from wanting elite talent traded. Nope, they actually just get worse. Trade Marchand? Trade Pastrnak? Trade yourself the **** out of here first!

I think it depends.

Say Panarin was available for Marchand straight up this year. And you knew he’d sign for less than 10 mill. That’s an elite guy coming back who is younger and will be good for a longer period of time than Marchand. Not saying I’d do it, but I’d certainly think about it.

Now if it’s for a bag of nickels like Boston always seems to get, f*** that noise

 

[Mainehockey33]

I don't get it either. It really is a mystery.

I say that because I don't believe for a second that Marchand is a guy that doesn't care, mails it it, etc. He's a competitor through and through and is good buddies with Bergeron who is a warrior.

Very strange how ineffective that top line was 5 v 5. There were some good defensive matchups against them in playoffs in general but it's not like they were facing annual Selke winners series after series.

I thought they had stretches during the regular season that they weren’t good 5 on 5. I hope they try some new looks next season.

 

[bobber]

Bull ****ing ****.

As a 60 some year Bruin fan I don't get your point. The Blues have to be given some credit for winning the cup. It wasn't just handed to them. Bruins were knocked around quite a bit in these play offs because of a lack of that gritty type of player. They had plenty of chances to score last night but Binner made some incredible saves. It hurts but that's basically the truth.

 

[LSCII]

Cost us a cup for the second time in 6 years. I can't shake my anger right now.

Man, just when I think your posts can't get any more ridiculous, you top the last one and show me you have the ability to take it to the next level. Every time.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Cost us a cup for the second time in 6 years. I can't shake my anger right now.

Lmao. He cost us a cup in 2013 as well? Huh.... News to me.

He's not the only reason they lost this year.

You're unfolding and it's awesome to watch.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I make no excuses for Brad getting off the ice when he did- I have no clue what happened there, and neither do the rest of you right now.Was it fatigue? Mental error? Playing through an injury that was bothering him at that moment? We don't know yet.

However- I am grateful to Brad for his outstanding defensive play throughout the regular seasons and playoffs that he has played in. He is one word- amazing. Do we all remember how many short handed goals this man has? That without his hard work as an offensive and defensive player- one of the best we've had on the Bruins, that we wouldn't have been playing a game 7 in the Cup finals?

Whenever Brad sees a lone defensemen facing a 2 or 3 on 1, that guy throws caution to the wind and speed skates down the ice to try and help them out- he's successful most of the time in doing so. No other guy on the team besides Bergy does that- no one. Bergy is a bit slower than Brad, Brad is a faster skater. Even if it meant him staying on the ice much longer than he was supposed to, he never let those defensemen down or our goalies, trying to bail them out of a scoring chance.

I also wonder if playing the point on the PP has messed him up a bit- it's not his natural position, and this is why I don't like that strategy, no matter which forward is on the point. At least if the puck goes out of the zone, Brad once again speed skates down the ice, trying to either prevent a scoring chance or to help the lone defensemen gain the puck back and head back up to the offensive zone.

In his interview last night- he was genuinely upset at himself. I read between the lines- his praise and love of his teammates- every one of them- to me, that was his apology to the team for that blunder he made.

What is such a shame in all of this is that many times over the years, Brad had bailed out his teammates when they've made mistakes. Yet last night, not one other guy scored to help cover his blunder. By the time Gryz scored, it was too late in the game.

So while Brad shares the blame for sure in this loss, the rest of the team has a bit of soul searching to do as well. Each player out there last night, both teams- knew this was it, the final game. The Blues got it, but some of the Bruins didn't. They kept waiting and waiting for what, I don't know, but not every forward played their hearts out. They all could have done better, including Brad.

I don't think anyone right now is as hard on himself as Brad is, and Rask, too. Rask said in his interview that he wished he had made at least one or both saves. Their shouldering the blame for the loss.

We also need to remember, the Bruins lost 3 other games in this series- the team lost those games, not just one guy.

Look, I feel bad for him. He wants to win. And he’s a fantastic player.

But it’s time to stop excusing Brad from criticism just because he’s got skill and puts up points. He makes errors, some costly, just like a lot of other guys on this team.

The constant need to turn the argument to “you are blaming it ALL on _____???” every time one of the top players is criticized really gets to me. He’s not perfect and he makes mistakes and I’m tired of so many people on this board taking the stance that certain guys are immune to criticism because of their point totals.

There’s blame on more than one player, and you’re being straight dishonest or ignorant if you think Brad isn’t one of them.

 

[Jaguar God]

Lmao. He cost us a cup in 2013 as well? Huh.... News to me.

He's not the only reason they lost this year.

You're unfolding and it's awesome to watch.

I'm just venting. Isn't that what everyone is doing today?

Anyways, I have a ton of work to do to keep me busy and away from hockey for a bit. Running an agency helps take the mind off the loss.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I'm just venting. Isn't that what everyone is doing today?

There's is venting which is what some are doing and then there is imploding like others are doing. I'll let you figure out which class you fall into.

I have a ton of work to do to keep me busy and away from hockey for a bit. Running an agency helps take the mind off the loss.

obviously it's not a very busy agency since you've been on here nonstop spewing.

 

[bobber]

There's is venting which is what some are doing and then there is imploding like others are doing. I'll let you figure out which class you fall into.



obviously it's not a very busy agency since you've been on here nonstop spewing.

Maybe Zarko works in the complaint department☺ Kidding. It's a bad day for all of us Bruin fans. Could be worse and we could be Leaf fans. All they have for their troubles is Drake showing up like he owns Toronto. Curse of the Drake.

 

[Jaguar God]

There's is venting which is what some are doing and then there is imploding like others are doing. I'll let you figure out which class you fall into.



obviously it's not a very busy agency since you've been on here nonstop spewing.

It's called multitasking and killing time while Google Ads editor uploads thousands of updates

 

[Lady Rhian]

Look, I feel bad for him. He wants to win. And he’s a fantastic player.

But it’s time to stop excusing Brad from criticism just because he’s got skill and puts up points. He makes errors, some costly, just like a lot of other guys on this team.

The constant need to turn the argument to “you are blaming it ALL on _____???” every time one of the top players is criticized really gets to me. He’s not perfect and he makes mistakes and I’m tired of so many people on this board taking the stance that certain guys are immune to criticism because of their point totals.

There’s blame on more than one player, and you’re being straight dishonest or ignorant if you think Brad isn’t one of them.

But I have criticized Brad not just in the post above, but several times this playoffs. I don't disagree with you, just saying he isn't the only player on the ice that made a blunder last night or the other three games they lost.