News Article: Bowman lays out “ 18 to 24 months” timeline to hit elite tier

[Hawkaholic]

They were highly regarded prospects and sometimes they don't turn out. It doesn't make them bad trades because the value was fine at the time. Hindsight POVs like this are just bad.

Yeah, not much of an issue with those trades. They were OK at the time.

 

[BK]

Actually it does. If he doesn't make the trade, Q doesn't have to worry about finding a place for two ****ty players.

It doesn't at all. Q playing lesser players is the issue.

 

[Hawkaholic]

It doesn't at all. Q playing lesser players is the issue.

He played Weise in 4 playoff games, and Mash in 2, they won 1 of those 2 with Mash in the lineup instead of Weise.

 

[BK]

He played Weise more than Mashinter, he played him in two games..which they won 1 of them.

2 games too many....this is the issue.

 

[BK]

He played Weise in 4 playoff games, and Mash in 2, they won 1 of those 2 with Mash in the lineup instead of Weise.

Yes or No. Do you think playing Mashinter was the right play?

 

[Hawkaholic]

2 games too many....this is the issue.

Not really. Wouldn't have changed anything since Weise didn't do anything for this club.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Yes or No. Do you think playing Mashinter was the right play?

It didn't make any difference, no.

 

[Pez68]

#FreshLegs

 

[BK]

He played Weise in 4 playoff games, and Mash in 2, they won 1 of those 2 with Mash in the lineup instead of Weise.

The Hawks were 2-2 with Weise in the lineup. He actually scored. Mashinter was terrible.

 

[BK]

It didn't make any difference, no.

Answer the question and stop trying to mover the goal posts.

 

[Hawkaholic]

The Hawks were 2-2 with Weise in the lineup. He actually scored. Mashinter was terrible.

Hawks were 1 and 1 with Mash in the lineup.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Answer the question and stop trying to mover the goal posts.

I'm not moving the goal posts, my position is the two were interchangable and didn't make any difference on the ice. They both sucked.

 

[BK]

Hawks were 1 and 1 with Mash in the lineup.

Mashinter was brutal in those games and had a penalty.

 

[BK]

I'm not moving the goal posts, my position is the two were interchangable and didn't make any difference on the ice. They both sucked.

You 100% are.

Just to confirm you think playing Mashinter was the right play? Correct?

 

[Hawkaholic]

You 100% are.

Just to confirm you think playing Mashinter was the right play? Correct?

Just as right as playing Weise.

 

[BK]

Just as right as playing Weise.

Thanks for confirming that you think it was the right move to play the far lesser player.

In no world where you are trying to win the cup is playing the lesser player in this situation the right move (assuming health). It is actively stupid to play the lesser roster. This is right up there with "fresh legs". Actively handicapping yourself is a special kind of stupid.

Nice work.

 

[ClydeLee]

Weise was just as bad, and given offensive zone chances and still gave nothing. He threw the puck into empty space all the time and his 1 goal was an unmissable set up by Panarin from behind the net. He changed nothing from any plugs or in out line up guys they had then.

Though the sad thought is if Panik had shown his flashes a hair sooner they probably dont make the trade for more wingers. But he showed he should play regularly just at the trade time and made the winger crop a big overfilled pile.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Thanks for confirming that you think it was the right move to play the far lesser player.

Nice work.

Far lesser player LOL.

Fun fact, Mashinter had more points than Weise after Weise was acquired with less ice time and less GP. (regular season)

 

[BK]

Weise was just as bad, and given offensive zone chances and still gave nothing. He threw the puck into empty space all the time and his 1 goal was an unmissable set up by Panarin from behind the net. He changed nothing from any plugs or in out line up guys they had then.

Weise was better than Mashinter and was not penalized.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Thanks for confirming that you think it was the right move to play the far lesser player.

In no world where you are trying to win the cup is playing the lesser player in this situation the right move (assuming health). It is actively stupid to play the lesser roster. This is right up there with "fresh legs". Actively handicapping yourself is a special kind of stupid.

Nice work.

Not even close to fresh legs, nice try.

 

[BK]

Far lesser player LOL.

Fun fact, Mashinter had more points than Weise after Weise was acquired with less ice time and less GP.

I mean if you completely ignore his season production.

If you think Mashinter is close to as good as Weise than you are just a f***ing idiot. Weise is not good but Mashinter was not even an NHL player at his best.

 

[BK]

Not even close to fresh legs, nice try.

It is not as bad but it right below it. It was f***ing moronic.

 

[piteus]

They were highly regarded prospects and sometimes they don't turn out. It doesn't make them bad trades because the value was fine at the time. Hindsight POVs like this are just bad.

That's why Bowman gets paid the big bucks to make the decisions. As much as I like Bowman, those were terrible mistakes. Both Dano and Pokka barely made a ripple in the NHL. You'd at least think they'd be journeymen (4th liners / 7th DMen). They weren't even good enough to do that for any franchise.

 

[ClydeLee]

Weise was better than Ma****er and was not penalized.

Weise wasted a ton of offensive chances just the puck away. Their role was totally different they weetnt even a 1 for 1 because Weise was so bad he couldnt play with that jruger line and help. Yet Higher up he just produced nothing for 15 games. Weise played with Teuvo more than anyone and dragged him down.

Weise simply hurt more by not being Danualt. Yet Mash was what this team had prior or always and won with. A plug that hardly plays and Kane plays more because. Bolig was that the playoffs just before him.

 

[BK]

That's why Bowman gets paid the big bucks to make the decisions. As much as I like Bowman, those were terrible mistakes. Both Dano and Pokka barely made a ripple in the NHL. You'd at least think they'd be journeymen (4th liners / 7th DMen). They weren't even good enough to do that for any franchise.

Not terrible mistakes at all. Not all prospect deals turns out and the value made sense at the time.

Neither D killed the franchise.

Dano is still in the AHl/NHL btw.

Pokka never gained the foot speed and is playing KHL. Nilson is actually in the NHL.