AngelDuck
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- Jun 16, 2012
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The most encouraging part of the interview is what was said about Steel and Terry. I’m also very glad they haven’t given up on Roy, who I firmly believe is an NHL talent
I don't buy that.Any player not willing to play fast will be put on press box, coaches told that.
Took notes on the fly, apologies for any typos.
Tryouts - BM to change over the group as we go, trying to have a productive 4th line, needed in NHL.
Contract situations - need to be strong down the middle.
Kesler situation “up in the air”
Trying to deal with Silfverberg and Gibson Silfverberg puts you in position of losing him for nothing if not signed.
Wants to tie Gibson up for a bunch of years like Hellybuck.
Montour - will go to arbitration and get 2 year deal.
Kase - real good year. Ritchie “hasn’t come into his own at all”. Have leverage with both and will use it, may go into September/October like with Lindholm and Rakell.
D corps - one of young Swedes will be here. Fowler healthy and playing golf daily. Schenn has experience, only 28, gives team an edge which is still needed. Sustr comes from a team that plays fast, need to play fast. Rowney brought on for same reason.
Any player not willing to play fast will be put on press box, coaches told that.
Terry, Steele, Roy not far off. Time for a changeover, when they are ready players will be moved to make room.
Lundestrom similar to Rakell in how he sees the game, not as prolific, very fit.
More confident don’t that Eaves will play than Kesler but Kelsey says he’s doing fine.
Silfverberg May be moved to left wing, space will be made for Kase.
If all RW are healthy “it gives me a chip to use, let’s just put it that way”
If ridin doesn’t make team he doesn’t want to play on gulls and will go back to Sweden - no risk.
Jones was doing drills in riding players into boards, got thumb caught, bent it backwards, and broke his scapula (while pointing at the thumb?) out 3 months.
1 year deals signed to make sure players hungry and so as not to block young guys.
Fan asked team to address OT and shootouts. BM said 3v3 needs to be addressed right off the bat and had already been discussed.
Perry - is he doing anything to work on speed? “I sure hope so”. He hopes and thinks Perry has realized he’s an age where he needs to work on offseason. Coaches have been mandated every player has to play the right way or be Becker. Everybody.
PP - needs movement. Couldn’t be much worse.
Schedule - better than last year. Better start with way eastern trip scheduling.
Nope, it is not disingenuous. It is simply a statement that signing Beleskey to a long term contract when he was a free agent back then would have been a bad decision based upon how he actually played in the years beyond the signing of the contract. That, in the end, is how I evaluate the success of a multi year contract. You may do so differently by claiming that we should only look at a signing from a future forecast perspective, and that is your prerogative. But in my opinion that is a less appropriate measure of evaluation of a contract, since people will always disagree about the potential of any player over any future contract.That kind of post-hoc analysis is disingenuous. We weren't selling 2018 Beleskey back then.
Silfverberg on his off wing is a great idea. Even playing half of the season with a hamstrung Kesler he was almost able to match his production from last year. Even so, I remember being frustrated with him at times because he wasn't using his amazing wrist shot like I thought he should. Maybe playing the off wing will give him a slightly better angle and allow him to use that shot more? I guess we'll see what happens.
If you remember a few years back, a lot of his goals in the postseason (mostly against the Oilers) were one-timers from the left side of the ice.It's definitely crossed my mind before that a switch to his off wing could possibly unlock a bit more of his scoring upside.
Watching his patented shootout goals, almost every time he angles himself to the left and then quickly shoots far side as he starts to cut back to the right.
Obviously it's no perfect science but a switch to LW should provide a few extra shooting opportunities from the angle he seems to prefer.
Can we put RC in the press box, his system in general is slowI don't buy that.
Overall most of that seems to make a lot of sense to me. Looking to give young guys a chance, acknowledging Ritchie sucks and Kase has been killing it, admitting our weaknesses, understanding our needs down the middle are the priority. It just seems to me like he feels stuck with RC for the time being and needs to give him one last shot, which was evident by our Assistant Coach hire.
Overall most of that seems to make a lot of sense to me. Looking to give young guys a chance, acknowledging Ritchie sucks and Kase has been killing it, admitting our weaknesses, understanding our needs down the middle are the priority. It just seems to me like he feels stuck with RC for the time being and needs to give him one last shot, which was evident by our Assistant Coach hire.
If anything that makes Murray look worse imo. He said everything right after we were eliminated and said a lot right at Q&A, yet his actions or solutions are ****.
“We need a significant change” - makes none. Imo, our roster is currently worse than last years with very little change.
“We need to rethink the way our team plays” “we need to manage the mins of our team better” - keeps a coach who has a bad history of not adapting.
For a guy who preached big changes it’s odd that he does nothing and keeps same coach.
If anything that makes Murray look worse imo. He said everything right after we were eliminated and said a lot right at Q&A, yet his actions or solutions are ****.
“We need a significant change” - makes none. Imo, our roster is currently worse than last years with very little change.
“We need to rethink the way our team plays” “we need to manage the mins of our team better” - keeps a coach who has a bad history of not adapting.
For a guy who preached big changes it’s odd that he does nothing and keeps same coach.
Given the current situation, we need to change things with the current roster & prospects. They changed things at the coachs areas, sure not the head but behind.
No one will take Perry, we've bad luck with Eaves and Kesler. In the end of the day, the possibities to make huge changes are not there.
The Ducks are not a preferred destination for things like Tavares going home. Face it, we only can trade for players.
Right now there is the biggest chance for our prospects to get a job. Terry, Steel, Kossila, Larsson, Petterson and a few dark horses can now show they are ready and they are what people think they are. .
You say our roster is weaker than last year. Well I think it depends on how big the steps of the young players will be. And to be honest. We have a top 4 that is great. We added bottom pairing guys and we have 3 young players going for a job. Not much to do here. Up in front the same stroy. If Kes is healthy we are quite good, if not a lot will be determind how Steel or Kossila can bring.
As mentioned earlier, there's really not much room for youth.People here want the youth to play. Now it's the time they can claim their place.
Our roster definitely won't be worse to start this year than last when you consider all of the injuries.
I hear what you are saying but I dont think it is as easy for a GM to fire a coach who has made the conference finals and then the playoffs after the team was decimated with injury. I dont know for sure but I bet there is a lot more politics in making those decisions and it isnt as easy as just doing what he wants. Perhaps it may be hard to find the next coach if they see we fire coaches that make the playoffs 2 years in a row including making the conference finals and making the playoffs after those injuries.If anything that makes Murray look worse imo. He said everything right after we were eliminated and said a lot right at Q&A, yet his actions or solutions are ****.
“We need a significant change” - makes none. Imo, our roster is currently worse than last years with very little change.
“We need to rethink the way our team plays” “we need to manage the mins of our team better” - keeps a coach who has a bad history of not adapting.
For a guy who preached big changes it’s odd that he does nothing and keeps same coach.
Yep. How good our roster is has a ton to do with how healthy Kesler and Eaves are and how ready the young guys are. If Kesler is 95% then we are already a much better roster than last. If Eaves regains some form that is a huge addition. Steel and Terry could be huge boosts. I dont really see us being much worse unless Getzlaf takes a big step back. A lot of our young guys should take a step forward and the only old guys that played last year that could decline are Getzlaf and Perry.Given the current situation, we need to change things with the current roster & prospects. They changed things at the coachs areas, sure not the head but behind. Noone will take Perry, we've bad luck with Eaves and Kesler. In the end of the day, the possibities to make huge changes are not there. The Ducks are not a preferred destination for things like Tavares going home. Face it, we only can trade for players.
Right now there is the biggest chance for our prospects to get a job. Terry, Steel, Kossila, Larsson, Petterson and a few dark horses can now show they are ready and they are what people think they are. You say our roster is weaker than last year. Well I think it depends on how big the steps of the young players will be. And to be honest. We have a top 4 that is great. We added bottom pairing guys and we have 3 young players going for a job. Not much to do here. Up in front the same stroy. If Kes is healthy we are quite good, if not a lot will be determind how Steel or Kossila can bring.
People here want the youth to play. Now it's the time they can claim their place.
Yup, as soon as Montour pushes the play more than one time per period, he’ll be sittingI don't buy that.
Nope, it is not disingenuous. It is simply a statement that signing Beleskey to a long term contract when he was a free agent back then would have been a bad decision based upon how he actually played in the years beyond the signing of the contract. That, in the end, is how I evaluate the success of a multi year contract. You may do so differently by claiming that we should only look at a signing from a future forecast perspective, and that is your prerogative. But in my opinion that is a less appropriate measure of evaluation of a contract, since people will always disagree about the potential of any player over any future contract.
Lol at Murray signing Rowney and Sustr because they have experience playing for fast teams. Both fanbases said they were their worst players.
Lol at Murray signing Rowney and Sustr because they have experience playing for fast teams. Both fanbases said they were their worst players.
“Well, we can’t be any worse. We were 25th. The players we have, it makes no sense for us to be 25th. That’s two years in a row it’s been brutal. You can’t stand still. You can’t hold the puck. You got to move the puck. You’ve got to move around. People have to change. Just watch the great teams on the power play. The puck is moving and people are moving. Nobody’s X-marks the spot and you go stand there. It doesn’t work.”