Pre-Game Talk: Blues vs Canucks Wednesday 26/02/2014 @ 7:30 PM Rogers Arena - SNET-P

[Wetcoaster]

Possibly. Fight with a fan next?

Launching a water bottle?

 

[deadinthewater]

why complain about pushup it can't be worst than some of the other stuff

It just seems like a stupid way to get the guys to "hit the net." How about actually teaching them something?

 

[Canucker]

I don't think it's about motivation, I think it's just a very basic psychological strategy. If these players do enough pushups they'll be more focused on every little detail of getting their shots on net to the point where it will be more instinctive in games.

I can't believe I'm having to even explain this. Why is such a thing even an issue?

Maybe doing push-ups has absolutely no effect on the players, but I'm pretty sure not making them do push-ups isn't going to gain their respect or admiration more to the point of better shooting efficiency either.

So what is the point of it if it may or may not have any impact on their shooting efficiency? Sounds like a pretty pointless "strategy".

 

[Wetcoaster]

So what is the point of it if it may or may not have any impact on their shooting efficiency? Sounds like a pretty pointless "strategy".

So far pointed strategies have failed.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Are people seriously *****ing about Torts making the guys do pushups?

lol.

 

[Canucker]

So far pointed strategies have failed.

After seeing our PP thus far I'm not sure there is any strategy at all.

 

[NuxFan09]

So what is the point of it if it may or may not have any impact on their shooting efficiency? Sounds like a pretty pointless "strategy".

Do you only do things in life if there is a guarantee they will work?

I still can't believe I'm having this discussion. I'm having to defend such a normal, common practice.

 

[canuck4life16]

Are people seriously *****ing about Torts making the guys do pushups?

lol.

with all the negative nancy surround the team......why are you not surprise....but seriously it not a big deal......sigh

 

[Drop the Sopel]

The Canucks had a -10 goal differential in the 3rd period last season and the 24th best winning % when leading after 2 periods; they were hardly the 3rd period warriors you're suggesting. That continued into the playoffs where 3 of their 4 losses involved them blowing leads in the 2nd half of the game.

Sure when they were an elite team they were dominant with the lead, but those days are long over.

They also were without Kesler for the majority of they year and he's a huge part of their shutdown game.

But you're right, this is the 2nd year where they have trended down by period. Before that they were on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Probably comes down to the fact they're just not a very good hockey team any more. I just don't buy into the notion Tortorella thinks he just needs to teach 'situational awareness' to a veteran group that has already been an elite shutdown team in recent years.

 

[NuxFan09]

Are people seriously *****ing about Torts making the guys do pushups?

lol.

I know. Honestly, my mind = blown. This is such a non-issue, and yes, complaining about it is akin to a country club mentality. I mean, wow.

 

[opendoor]

Hey, the pushups worked for Brent Sutter and the Flames around the last Olympics:

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/02/12/12862786.html

It's pretty funny (and sad) how you could change the names and basically write the same story about the Canucks. Hopefully Gillis doesn't have a Phaneuf trade in him.

 

[canucksfan]

I don't think it's about motivation, I think it's just a very basic psychological strategy. If these players do enough pushups they'll be more focused on every little detail of getting their shots on net to the point where it will be more instinctive in games.

I can't believe I'm having to even explain this. Why is such a thing even an issue?

Maybe doing push-ups has absolutely no effect on the players, but I'm pretty sure not making them do push-ups isn't going to gain their respect or admiration more to the point of better shooting efficiency either.

It's definitely not a big issue. I just don't understand why coaches do it.

Players are having a hard time hitting the net or getting good shots off. Instead of practising and fixing the problem through teaching, he gets the team to do push ups? The players want to hit the net and score. I don't see how this will fix the problem.

 

[Canucker]

Do you only do things in life if there is a guarantee they will work?

I still can't believe I'm having this discussion. I'm having to defend such a normal, common practice.

No, because you can't guarantee many things....especially in professional sports, but there is more risk of losing respect of players for making them all do pushups (which is usually reserved for children) just because they miss the net with a shot....because its a pretty stupid concept to think that punishing the entire team when one person misses the net will increase shooting efficiency.

 

[Wetcoaster]

The Tortorella coached Canucks current chances of making the post-season are pegged at 23.94%.

AV's NYR? 81.281%.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

 

[canuck4life16]

can we just talk positive and not this negative stuff.......break the lossing streak will help

 

[canucksfan]

The Tortorella coached Canucks current chances of making the post-season are pegged at 23.94%.

AV's NYR? 81.281%.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Every time that number gets lower Torts should have the whole team do 1000 push ups!

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

No, because you can't guarantee many things....especially in professional sports, but there is more risk of losing respect of players for making them all do pushups (which is usually reserved for children) just because they miss the net with a shot....because its a pretty stupid concept to think that punishing the entire team when one person misses the net will increase shooting efficiency.

It's all a conspiracy to get everyone to waive their NTCs. Ya heard it here first.

 

[Wetcoaster]

No, because you can't guarantee many things....especially in professional sports, but there is more risk of losing respect of players for making them all do pushups (which is usually reserved for children) just because they miss the net with a shot....because its a pretty stupid concept to think that punishing the entire team when one person misses the net will increase shooting efficiency.

Pretty scary that Tortorella had the Olympic break to think and plan to right the good ship SS Canuck... and this is what he came up with.

 

[Wetcoaster]

can we just talk positive and not this negative stuff.......break the lossing streak will help

What positive stuff?

 

[opendoor]

The Tortorella coached Canucks current chances of making the post-season are pegged at 23.94%.

AV's NYR? 81.281%.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

I wish the Canucks got to play in the sea of crap that is the Metropolitan Division.

 

[canuck4life16]

The Tortorella coached Canucks current chances of making the post-season are pegged at 23.94%.

AV's NYR? 81.281%.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Weak east vs competitive west

 

[Canucker]

It's all a conspiracy to get everyone to waive their NTCs. Ya heard it here first.

OR...it was just a poorly thought out coaching tactic.

Pretty scary that Tortorella had the Olympic break to think and plan to right the good ship SS Canuck... and this is what he came up with.

And he had a nice long break during his suspension to work on solving this vexing problem. Alas, no answers were found.

 

[canuck4life16]

What positive stuff?

Henrik coming back healthy soon, Daniel could be scoring again? Edler get confidence from olympics......

 

[Wetcoaster]

Henrik coming back healthy soon, Daniel could be scoring again? Edler get confidence from olympics......

Ahhhhh... fantasy.

 

[canuck4life16]

Pretty scary that Tortorella had the Olympic break to think and plan to right the good ship SS Canuck... and this is what he came up with.

it just one practice.........I sure something else will done later on. Could be a joke for revenge against Canada