Friedman: Blues going to look at trading Tarasenko

[Kranix]

A bag of pucks and a 1st for Tank?

jankowski/Bennett ain't a puck sir

 

[PromisedLand]

Not if we are keeping Petro and Parayko.

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

 

[Colt55]

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

why on earth would we trade parayko an tarasenko for that. Hamilton is not an upgrade over parayko or petro.


Come on HFboards you guys should really stop with these crap offers that wouldnt get 1 of the players let alone both. This is just stupid bad

 

[MinJaBen]

The Official Horrible Trade Proposals Thread Part 4: Shots, Shots, Shots, Shots, Shots EVERYBODY!!!

Very interesting.

Just for clarity, here is the question and answer from Rutherford:

It is from an Athletic Question and Answer session.

 

[Dbrownss]

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

So.... Kapanen+2nd for Pietrangelo.......amazing how leaf offers actually get worse.

 

[bleedblue1223]

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

Hell no.

 

[Colt55]

So.... Kapanen+2nd for Pietrangelo.......amazing how leaf offers actually get worse.

I think the best offer toronto can make that makes sense for petro is
Kappenan Liljgren 1st2019 zaitsev

 

[Canovin]

Trading Tarasenko when he is having a down year seems like a really bad move.

His NTC kicks in next season.

 

[sfvega]

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

This is why everyone hates Leafs fans.

 

[Brownbeard]

We'll trade you a gently used Nylander.

 

[Colt55]

We'll trade you a gently used Nylander.

for what?

 

[67Blues]

Jankowski+Bennett+Curtis Lazar+Foo+Lomberg+Stone+2019 1st round pick for Tarasenko

This trade proposal officially sponsored by

 

[PromisedLand]

This is why everyone hates Leafs fans.

So blues gain

Hamilton for Parayko + 2nd; (both comparable players so blues get more)

And then

Kapanen (young player with offensive upside) + 1st for Tarasenko + cap space

(This 1st can be used to draft a solid player, flipped for two picks or flipped for another offensive player)

i.e. Kapanen + 1st (options to do what blues want) for tarasenko who is 27 years old and who has nmc kick in next season; and has seen his production decline last 2 years

Is not fair? Tarasenko is not Ovi

calm down with your expectations for a player (Tarasenko) who has nmc in his contract and is showing a downward trend in production

 

[cardinalnation]

So we trade one malcontent for a less talented malcontent? I have no problem trading Taranseko who is probably vthe most overrated player in the NhL but I am not doing it for Dougie Hamilton. To be honest I sure as hell hope Army has Carolina on block. Hamilton has been there three months and Canes are already desperate to get him out if town. Buyer beware on this guy.

 

[Regal]

Would be a dumb move to sell low on Tarasenko unless they think there's a reason he won't bounce back (his shoulder?) and there's more chance of teams valuing him as an underperforming star this year than if he continues to underperform next year. Realistically, Tarasenko, Schwartz and Pietrangelo actually playing like they should, and replacing Allen with even average goaltending would put them back in the playoffs.

 

[bleedblue1223]

So blues gain

Hamilton for Parayko + 2nd; (both comparable players so blues get more)

And then

Kapanen (young player with offensive upside) + 1st for Tarasenko + cap space

(This 1st can be used to draft a solid player, flipped for two picks or flipped for another offensive player)

i.e. Kapanen + 1st (options to do what blues want) for tarasenko who is 27 years old and who has nmc kick in next season; and has seen his production decline last 2 years

Is not fair? Tarasenko is not Ovi

calm down with your expectations for a player (Tarasenko) who has nmc in his contract and is showing a downward trend in production

Tarasenko doesn't have a NMC. It's a terrible deal.

 

[67Blues]

So blues gain

Hamilton for Parayko + 2nd; (both comparable players so blues get more)

And then

Kapanen (young player with offensive upside) + 1st for Tarasenko + cap space

(This 1st can be used to draft a solid player, flipped for two picks or flipped for another offensive player)

i.e. Kapanen + 1st (options to do what blues want) for tarasenko who is 27 years old and who has nmc kick in next season; and has seen his production decline last 2 years

Is not fair? Tarasenko is not Ovi

calm down with your expectations for a player (Tarasenko) who has nmc in his contract and is showing a downward trend in production

Parayko is over-rated and plays sheltered minutes and Tarasenko is a washed up 35-40 pt player. Why would you do this?

 

[PromisedLand]

Tarasenko doesn't have a NMC. It's a terrible deal.

Correction Tarasenko has NTC kick in next season

Vladimir Tarasenko - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

So you want the team to assume the risk of trading for Tarasenko who has NTC and may see his production decline pay through their nose?

It’s not a terrible deal it is a fair deal

 

[sfvega]

Correction Tarasenko has NTC kick in next season

Vladimir Tarasenko - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

So you want the team to assume the risk of trading for Tarasenko who has NTC and may see his production decline and through their nose?

It’s not a terrible deal it is a fair deal

Yeah, it is for teams not named the Blues.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

So we trade one malcontent for a less talented malcontent? I have no problem trading Taranseko who is probably vthe most overrated player in the NhL but I am not doing it for Dougie Hamilton. To be honest I sure as hell hope Army has Carolina on block. Hamilton has been there three months and Canes are already desperate to get him out if town. Buyer beware on this guy.

Carolina wants a Top 6 forward and is willing to make anyone not named Slavin available to return that player. It could be Hamilton. It could be Pesce. According to the Blues' beat writer, it's preferably Faulk.

There is nothing out there to suggest that there is desperation to get Hamilton in particular out of town. If you don't want to trade Tarasenko for a defenseman of Hamilton's caliber for whatever reason (emotional attachment, roster construction, contract), just say it. No need to make stuff up.

 

[Brock Anton]

Seriously, everyone is just running with that report that teams were calling about Dougie and turning it into this stupid shit about how Carolina is shopping him and offering garbage in return because "distraction".

As BDC said, Carolina wants a top 6 forward, if someone offers one that they like, they'll explore it, even if it includes Dougie.

 

[BleedBlue14]

To Blues: Hamilton + Kapanen+1st (from Canes) + 2nd (from Toronto)
To Canes: Tarasenko
To Leafs: Parayko

You are going to make me puke

 

[BleedBlue14]

So blues gain

Hamilton for Parayko + 2nd; (both comparable players so blues get more)

And then

Kapanen (young player with offensive upside) + 1st for Tarasenko + cap space

(This 1st can be used to draft a solid player, flipped for two picks or flipped for another offensive player)

i.e. Kapanen + 1st (options to do what blues want) for tarasenko who is 27 years old and who has nmc kick in next season; and has seen his production decline last 2 years

Is not fair? Tarasenko is not Ovi

calm down with your expectations for a player (Tarasenko) who has nmc in his contract and is showing a downward trend in production

He just came off of a surgery 3 months ago to repair his shoulder. What exactly are you expecting? And you know what thought the past he has been the second behind Ovechkin in the league for goals. If you are trying to get Tarasenko in a package of leaf pieces it would more than likely be something around Kapanen, 1st, b grade prospect, and another first if we are being realistic here. And even that isn’t all that appealing.

 

[cardinalnation]

Seriously, everyone is just running with that report that teams were calling about Dougie and turning it into this stupid **** about how Carolina is shopping him and offering garbage in return because "distraction".

As BDC said, Carolina wants a top 6 forward, if someone offers one that they like, they'll explore it, even if it includes Dougie.

I don't know where the report came from but it is everywhere. It's not like we made it up here in the trade thread. Carolina and the Blues both are going to have a ton if rumors because they have both fallen well short of where they thought they would be. Hamilton has a rep as not exactly a team player. I don't know where that comes from either but it has dogged him right from the start. The guy is supposed to be a superstar but I just don't see it. I was honestly relieved when he went to Calgary because Blues we're rumored to be looking at him back then. It's just one guys opinion but I just never thought he was as good as his reputation. Anyway the real point is if the Blues we're to trade Taranseko I think they can do a lot better than that.

 

[sfvega]

He just came off of a surgery 3 months ago to repair his shoulder. What exactly are you expecting? And you know what thought the past he has been the second behind Ovechkin in the league for goals. If you are trying to get Tarasenko in a package of leaf pieces it would more than likely be something around Kapanen, 1st, b grade prospect, and another first if we are being realistic here. And even that isn’t all that appealing.

Let's not forget that from the Leafs perspective, they are giving Kapanen and a 2nd for Parayko, only to turn around and also sell Tank at a discount. Like any Blues fan would agree to that.....