OT: Blues Fans of the 2013 World Series

[Alklha]

How exactly would TLR have convinced his offense to hit? We haven't done a damn thing offensively and there's nothing Matheny could have done about it.

Wong could have played, Robinson should be in this game, roster line up would have been shaken up. Would it have made a big difference? No, but the margins were pretty fine in 4 & 5.

When it comes down to it, you're largely right. I'm not really interested in the mistakes that Matheny may or may not have made with pitching changes. Scoring 12 runs in 5⅔ games isn't going to win you the Series.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Wong could have played, Robinson should be in this game, roster line up would have been shaken up. Would it have made a big difference? No, but the margins were pretty fine in 4 & 5.

When it comes down to it, you're largely right. I'm not really interested in the mistakes that Matheny may or may not have made with pitching changes. Scoring 12 runs in 5⅔ games isn't going to win you the Series.

Agreed about Wong and Robinson. Still don't know how much of a difference it would make.

Edit: Thank you Beltran.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

This all of the sudden got very interesting...nvm.

 

[Note Worthy]

This all of the sudden got very interesting...nvm.

Well there's goes that.

9 LOB for the Cardinals. That's unacceptable.

 

[LGB51]

I used to be a fan of Boston teams, since I have family up there. No longer. **** those fat ****** for mocking Wacha. He's still a kid, and he's more successful than any of you ***** ever will be.

To be fair, just about every Cardinal fan (including many here) were going around saying tonight was a automatic win, and showing a overabundance of overconfidence. Then he comes out and gets shelled and knocked out early, with the Red Sox worst starting pitcher by far pitching a gem thru 6 and 2/3 innings.

 

[Note Worthy]

To be fair, just about every Cardinal fan (including many here) were going around saying tonight was a automatic win, and showing a overabundance of overconfidence. Then he comes out and gets shelled and knocked out early, with the Red Sox worst starting pitcher by far pitching a gem thru 6 and 2/3 innings.

Automatic? Really?

I saw some people confident in Wacha but automatic might be taking it too far. I didn't see any of that.

 

[Chippewa]

To be fair, just about every Cardinal fan (including many here) were going around saying tonight was a automatic win, and showing a overabundance of overconfidence. Then he comes out and gets shelled and knocked out early, with the Red Sox worst starting pitcher by far pitching a gem thru 6 and 2/3 innings.

You must have been seeing different things than I. I saw a lot of uplift in that we had a pitcher we can really trust. Nobody counted tonight as an automatic win. Nobody could with the way our offense is.

Would we have chanted a rookie pitchers name after he carried his team, and finally maxed out in a humiliating fashion on a national stage? I think not.

Enjoy your WS win. Then I hope your franchise rots along with your fans.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

To be fair, just about every Cardinal fan (including many here) were going around saying tonight was a automatic win, and showing a overabundance of overconfidence. Then he comes out and gets shelled and knocked out early, with the Red Sox worst starting pitcher by far pitching a gem thru 6 and 2/3 innings.

I challenge you to find a single fan in here that said that. There's a massive difference between saying you have confidence that your team and pitcher have a chance and saying its an automatic win.

 

[LGB51]

Automatic? Really?

I saw some people confident in Wacha but automatic might be taking it too far. I didn't see any of that.

I didn't read one comment from one Card fan on here who was worried in the slightest with Wacha going against Lackey tonight. Every single one were convinced he was going to win the pitching battle. That's what I meant by automatic.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I didn't read one comment from one Card fan on here who was worried in the slightest with Wacha going against Lackey tonight. Every single one were convinced he was going to win the pitching battle. That's what I meant by automatic.

Nobody said it was automatic. Not one single person. Learn the difference between having confidence in your pitcher and thinking its an automatic win.

 

[Alklha]

I didn't read one comment from one Card fan on here who was worried in the slightest with Wacha going against Lackey tonight. Every single one were convinced he was going to win the pitching battle. That's what I meant by automatic.

Yeah, and several of us highlighted how inept our hitting was. Any pretence that Lackey has been in the same League as Wacha recently is completely misplaced. We let Lackey off in the second and third and our guys punished Wacha in the third and fourth. That's the way it goes sometimes, and all baseball fans knows that even the best pitcher in the League doesn't win every start.

The better team won this series, and congrats to Boston. Appreciate who your audience is in this thread though, some things not meant as inflammatory might be taken that way with how this game has went.

 

[Colt 55]

Have to re-sign carlos.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

That was exactly how I didn't want to lose. I can take losing if we play well. Getting laughed off the field like that is utterly embarrassing. Could our offense have showed up for one game? Was that too much to ask?

 

[LGB51]

No offense intended, poor choice of word used on my part I apologize. It was a good series, and your boys put up a hell of a fight. I picked a 4-1 Sox series win, so to get to a game 6 is a hell of a accomplishment. The cards are a hell of a tough team, with a ton of good young talent, they keep plugin' away and they'll be back again soon.

 

[Note Worthy]

No offense intended, poor choice of word used on my part I apologize. It was a good series, and your boys put up a hell of a fight. I picked a 4-1 Sox series win, so to get to a game 6 is a hell of a accomplishment. The cards are a hell of a tough team, with a ton of good young talent, they keep plugin' away and they'll be back again soon.

We usually are.

I have no worries about the Cards being back.

 

[BlueDream]

Welp, the city is in the hands of the Blues now, lol.

 

[KirkOut]

No offense intended, poor choice of word used on my part I apologize. It was a good series, and your boys put up a hell of a fight. I picked a 4-1 Sox series win, so to get to a game 6 is a hell of a accomplishment. The cards are a hell of a tough team, with a ton of good young talent, they keep plugin' away and they'll be back again soon.

hahaha getting to game 6 is a 'hell of an accomplishment' because you picked sox in 5?

 

[Alicat]

It was a great series and your team is so good. Be proud.

 

[Note Worthy]

It was a great series and your team is so good. Be proud.

Thank you.

I think the outcome happened as it should. Boston was the better team all the way. Congrats on winning it at Fenway.

 

[Linus]

I hope Beltran is back for another year.

 

[542365]

Lol the Cards were by no means an "inferior" team. If they played 100 times, I'd imagine it would be close to 50/50. Wainwright didn't have his best stuff, and Lester did. That's the turning point of the series. The Cards will be back soon, maybe as early as next season. The team is unbelievably deep, and we have prospects coming up that will make us even better. It sucks to lose, but it was still a great season. Tied for the best record in baseball after losing our closer, replacing him with a guy that completely **** the bed, replacing him with a guy that was dominant for 4/5 of the season and lost it right before the playoffs, and replacing him with a guy that just started pitching in 2008. That's the depth we had at the closer position alone. Then you throw in the fact that we lost our starting shortstop, our number 2 and 3 starters and it just shows how deep the team is. You can't win the World Series every year. 4 NL championships, 2 World Series in the last decade and the top rated farm system in baseball. I would be shocked if we don't win one in the next 3 years.

 

[couture23]

You guys have some of the best young pitchers I think I have ever seen. Rosenthal is straight money.

Go Rams.

 

[KirkOut]

Now the question becomes: which team will be the next to win a game, the Rams or the Cards?

 

[JustOneB4IDie]

Have to re-sign carlos.

I would love to see Carlos back but doubtful. I'm thinking a AL team. Beltran has bad knees & Cardinals got very lucky this past season that he didn't get injured this past season. I'm thinking the Yankees sign Beltran to be their DH, just a feeling...

And The Cardinals top priority should be is to go out to find a SS, please and thank you.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Short stop is the most pressing need. But I have a sinking feeling Freese will be back. Let's hope Wong spends the off season working his ass off so he can come in and out play Freese. If he does that, I think we could see them move Carpenter to third and play Wong everyday at second.