Proposal: Blues Devils
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Beauterham
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Do you have a source for that? Just wondering.
Steen and Tarasenko will probably be on LTIR.
Agreed that Dunn could be traded, although it's not because he doesn't fit under the cap. More to make room for Mikkola who's on a 1-way contract.
67Blues
Got it for Bobby
I'd say they're pretty deep at LW and Center
Johnsson, Andreas
Wood, Miles
Gusev, Nikita
Bratt, Jesper
Kuokkanen, Janne
Foote, Nolan
Jesper Boqvist
McLeod has what a lot of Blues don't have which is Elite speed, he can play right side of Thomas ROR or Sunny
But him alone doesn't equal the value of Dunn and Bozak
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A lot of pieces on both sides don't really seem to be necessary for this trade. I'd be fine taking on Bozak or Steen if it lowers the asking price for Dunn though.
BlueOil
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i sincerely doubt hoffman would sign for $5 million and still hope armstrong is looking elsewhere if he plans to dump bozak for someone else
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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I don't want to move both Kuokkanan and Boqvist. Would definitely offer one though
I also am not sure how much STL needs to clear Bozak anymore
I also am not sure how much STL needs to clear Bozak anymore
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Yeah, either Dunn is package with a cap dump, and in this market Bozak at 5m is dump, and you get not much or trade Dunn alone for better stuff. Or keep Dunn. Here the Devils take on a ton of salary and lose three prospects to get Dunn.
Sanford makes 1.5m for a year and then is eligible for arbitration so he’s not cheap either compared to guys on ELCs. Just because the Devils don’t have cap issues doesn’t mean they don’t want forwards on ELCs too.
Bozak needs to move so the Blues can add a scoring winger like Hoffman, Blues have Barbie Sunny De la Rose for the 3rd and 4th line Center
Blues need to cover themselves for expansion draft and with Schwartz UFA next year, hence getting 3 forwards that don't have to be protected and cost controlled
I think there is fair value with Bozak Stanford Dunn for the three players I listed
With it looking like Steen might have played his last game, we don't need to move Bozak and I doubt that Armstrong would want to.
If/when Dunn is moved, I doubt that salary will be attached.
Devils get the proven players, Bozak Sanford(25) Dunn (23) all have won a cup, Bozak's contract is only 1 year which has value and gives Devils a Stanley Cup winning reliable 3rd 4th Center
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NJ don’t need to sacrifice prospects to have him for one shortened season which is really a reset for the team with a new staff. If Bozak was on a new team it would be a contender.
I’m not against getting Dunn, just agreeing with the other poster that I’m not sure why six players are in this trade. Also why wouldn’t St Louis trade Dunn separately and get a better return if they wanted to move him?
Kyrou is faster, younger in my opinion more skilled. We have kostin just about ready as well.
LetsGoBLUES91
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Well that's 7 guys. 3 of which almost certainly play in the AHL at least to start. And Gunnarsson is a 7th D at this point.
You could get rid of Dunn for a forward and one of those guys can step in. But it's not like they have to do it.
To me I wouldn't do it most of the devils young prospects are LHD and I would rather take a cap dump from Tampa Bay and deal an elc for someone like Cernak who is a young RHD with size and adds something our prospects might not add to our team......Not saying Tampa would do it but I'd be looking more for that kind of trade....No insult to the Blues players I just don't think the trade fits for either team......IMO trading Sanford Thomas or Kyrou is just stupid even Dunn who is young too.
The Blues already have room for a contract like that without moving any salary, including re-signing Dunn. You are not taking into account Steen LTIR-retiring and Tarasenko’s cap hit on LTIR for a few months. They don’t need to move any salary out unless it is part of a move to improve the team.
In Armstrong’s most recent interviews, he’s talking as though he projects Dunn on the 3rd pairing. This surprised many of us who though Mikkola was ready to crack the roster, or that Perunovich has an outside chance.
He’s not distressed goods. He holds good value for his RFA status and controlled salary. Some models love Dunn, probably more than the Blues’ front office. I don’t think it would be hard to trade him for a 1st if the desire was there. But I bet he starts training camp in St Louis at this rate.
One Winged Angel
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The Devils give up too much youth and the Blues give up too much out of their immediate lineup.
Maybe there’s a deal to be had, but this isn’t it.
Maybe there’s a deal to be had, but this isn’t it.
While NJ could use an intermediate answer on LD which Dunn would fit, as others have noticed, long term the team has a number of prospects percolating their way up the ranks. Also, the new Devils' GM has said he wants to be tougher to play against defensively. When I've watched the Blues play I haven't focused on Dunn. Does he fit that mold or is he more the smooth skating finesse rearguard who is best paired with a physical partner? The bit I've read suggests he is a third pair PP guy which NJ has in Butcher, but that's just an impression I've gotten.
We have Butcher. I’d rather go after a more defensive minded d as that is more needed. Dunn has looked okay defensively from what I saw of the maybe 7-8 games I watched of him as a pro. Until the playoffs this year and after what I saw I would like to stay clear away from him.
Prior to being a pro I didn’t think he was anything special defensively. He arguably wasn’t even the best defenseman on his minor hockey team.
If we needed an offensive guy, by all means let’s get him. But I don’t want to waste an asset. Do we need defensemen? Yes. Not necessarily this style though.
