Post-Game Talk: Blues def. Canucks - 2-1 (Garland)

[Sedinery]

Would rather 6-5 with Kuzzy than lose 2-1 without him

And also not fall asleep during the game

Canucks are one boring hockey team under Tocchet

 

[timw33]

Not an ideal start to a long grueling road trip.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Blow the team up start over

 

[Nomobo]

Tocchet is living large now but once the losses pile up, his antics won’t be tolerated

You must live for these losses, eh? Then you can shut on Toc.

 

[Sedinery]

Kizzy plays, scores 2 goals Tocchet makes sure he is not on the ice for a hat trick

Buy hey, nothing personal right?

 

[LordBacon]

Couldn't watch the game.

You didnt miss anything worth watching lol

 

[Sedinery]

Remember it was genius Tocchet that started Desmith with days off prior to the game and a big Christmas break after

 

[credulous]

You really believe this??

yeah, more or less. i don't think he's been unplayable or anything but he's been about the same as last year. he's still slow, weak defensively and more of an opportunistic scorer than a guy who creates offense. he and miller started the year ultra hot but i don't think they were really playing better than they are now they just were scoring on like 30% of their shots

 

[Shareefruck]

Think it's time to try something a bit more dramatic like this:

Pettersson - Miller - Kuzmenko
Mikheyev - Suter - Boeser
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Aman - Lafferty

 

[bbud]

You must live for these losses, eh? Then you can shut on Toc.

Overall he's gotten lots out his players his issues with Kuz are questionable in a game where none of his top offense looked so he needed a bottom line plug ?
My issue lately had been lack of making smart plays and pushing hard enough up front it is a long season buy they should win this game

 

[sting101]

Would rather 6-5 with Kuzzy than lose 2-1 without him

And also not fall asleep during the game

Canucks are one boring hockey team under Tocchet

lol we lead the NHL in goals

yeah, more or less. i don't think he's been unplayable or anything but he's been about the same as last year. he's still slow, weak defensively and more of an opportunistic scorer than a guy who creates offense. he and miller started the year ultra hot but i don't think they were really playing better than they are now they just were scoring on like 30% of their shots

I think you're more or less out of your mind

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Why the f*** was Kuz scratched?

 

[credulous]

I think you're more or less out of your mind

i just don't really see much different between his play this year and last other than maybe he's shooting better

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Think it's time to try something a bit more dramatic like this:

Pettersson - Miller - Kuzmenko
Mikheyev - Suter - Boeser
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Di Giuseppe - Aman - Lafferty

I suppose it's worth a shot but there's no chance I see this working. That second line is laughably weak. Also PDG is out for the foreseeable future. So sub in Hoglander.

 

[LordBacon]

Why the f*** was Kuz scratched?

So that we can loss 2-1 while being responsible defensively.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

yeah, more or less. i don't think he's been unplayable or anything but he's been about the same as last year. he's still slow, weak defensively and more of an opportunistic scorer than a guy who creates offense. he and miller started the year ultra hot but i don't think they were really playing better than they are now they just were scoring on like 30% of their shots

You do realize Boeser has to be playing well to actually get a ridiculous 30% scoring conversion, yeah? Of course there's luck involved but that's how it goes: "You have to be good to be lucky and lucky to be good."

Boeser is playing poorly right now but he's far better than the last two years. He's actually engaging play, has been fairly decent on the forecheck and up until recently a consistent threat. He's never been fast, which is why I think moving Mivheyov down to that line might work, but to say he's the same player just no longer scoring now is silly.

 

[canuckking1]

 

[VibinCanuck]

If the Canucks make a move it'd be for a top 6 winger to play with Pettersson.

HOWEVER, the coach needs to stop being stubborn about Kuzmenko. Missing the forest for the trees.

Here's some fun stats:

PP with Kuzmenko: 25%
PP without Kuzmenko: 18.75%

Points percentage with Kuzmenko: 71.88% (22-8-2)
Points percentage without Kuzmenko: 41.67% (2-3-1)

Now you must be saying, "Well those losses without Kuzmenko must be good teams right?"

WRONG!

They lost to: Calgary, San Jose, St. Louis and Dallas (in OT).

One playoff team, and maybe the two of the worst losses this season is without Kuzmenko playing. (San Jose and tonight)

Turns out, playing your best players is an easy way to success. Crazy thought!

 

[brock hughes007]

Gonna say this loss is on the coaching line up choices. Mikhayev should be no where on the 1st line and same with Lafferty.
Petey, Hogs,Kuzmenko
Miller,Boeser,Garland
Bluger,Joshua,Lafferty
Suter,Mikhayev, Ahmen

 

[Regal]

You do realize Boeser has to be playing well to actually get a ridiculous 30% scoring conversion, yeah? Of course there's luck involved but that's how it goes: "You have to be good to be lucky and lucky to be good."

Boeser is playing poorly right now but he's far better than the last two years. He's actually engaging play, has been fairly decent on the forecheck and up until recently a consistent threat. He's never been fast, which is why I think moving Mivheyov down to that line might work, but to say he's the same player just no longer scoring now is silly.

Yea, I think it’s fair to say Boeser’s value isn’t the same as a player who would typically have the scoring paces he has now, but he’s certainly played better than the past couple years.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Genius coaching

Win a game and over coach by changing a winning lineup and sitting kuzzy

Shocker we only score 1 goal after sitting out a sniper…. But hey only allowed 2 goals so I am sure Tocchet is very very happy tonight

And why do they have a winning lineup?…its by being responsible 2 way players with a total buy in to playing total team defense..unlike previous years.


This is obviously flying right over your head.

 

[orcatown]

Evenly played game by similarly coached teams. Canucks need game breakers to come through in such games and they simply didn't in this one.

Good

Garland - don't know that he is an good option on the PP but his play has warranted giving him a chance. Had another excellent all round game. The consistency in his play has been, through all the hits and puck battles, remarkable. Has the unsung hero award wrapped up (althouhg Joshua desevres consideration).

Myers - thought he did a lot to cover for a pretty lethargic Zadorov in this game and he pushed the play up ice much of the game. Showed good speed coming out of his end and got osome good shots off from the point (although he could have been a little more accurate).

Hughes - did his best to push the play and did create chances. Sometimes he got himself into some trouble doing that but situation more or less forced him to have to create offense. (few of the forwards were)

Not So Good

Zadorov - OK most of the times but a way too casual in many situations. Needs to show more intensity and you wonder what he could be if he was.

Mikheyev - skates around, plays the system fairly well but rarely has the puck and shows zero offense. Can't get a lot cheaper than him to do that.

Not Good at all

Boeser - 20 minutes of nothing. Gets a wide open chance 10 feet out, after others worked their cans off getting him it, and he flubs it wide. Make a comparison with that to a player with a real shot in Thomas, and his winning goal, and you've got the game in a nutshell. Boeser stank all game. As others worked for a shot he stood around like a statue never trying to look for creases where he could get the puck. When he was passed the puck looked surprises and then took his time windening up to get off a weak effort. If Kuzmenko can be sat why can't Boeser. Oh ya, I forgot, don't want to hurt his feelings.

Karlsson - can't skate at this level. There's nothing there.

Others

Pettersson - has to have more impact. Closely checked and gets little help from the wingers. but he needs to be better.

Miller - like Petterssson has so little to work with. Has carried Boeser all season but tonite the load was too big. Thought the effort was there and there were times when he did force some chances but no player can do it on his own. thought at one point he might be arguing with the coach. Frustration building.

Hornek - play lacks the zip of early in the season. Might be Hughes is controlling the play all the time and Hronek starts spectating. Maybe want to look at adjusting the pairings.

Game showed the importance of playing with the lead. That's one thing the team has done well all year.

 

[Breakers]

Move garland up

he's playing well, put him with pettersson

 

[Slapshot_11]

And why do they have a winning lineup?…its by being responsible 2 way players with a commitment to playing total team defense..unlike previous years.


This is obviously flying right over your head.

Playing total team defense lolol, demko kept the game close

 

[Shareefruck]

I suppose it's worth a shot but there's no chance I see this working. That second line is laughably weak. Also PDG is out for the foreseeable future. So sub in Hoglander.

Crap, forgot about Hoglander.

Yeah, I know. But this rotating winger thing is just not working at the moment and they're really running out of things to try.