GDT: Blue Jackets @ Red Wings - 7:00 EST

[Winger98]

It sounds like I didn't miss anything tonight. I am out with the wife tonight since my mom took the kids.
On a side note: I paid for NHL center ice for this?

From one married guy with kids to another... you have a night without the kids and with your wife. Get off the message board.

 

[TheMule93]

It sounds like I didn't miss anything tonight. I am out with the wife tonight since my mom took the kids.
On a side note: I paid for NHL center ice for this?

it was a fairly exciting game, we created lots of scoring chances. Played pretty well in a loss for the second time in a row.

 

[Martinez]

They used to play us tough, now we play them tough. Fun game

 

[golffuul]

That we competed with Columbus all game was really good. I don't mind games like this, if the effort is there. Their goal should never have happened, but I can live with that. Calgary was harder to live with. Overall, though, we are playing better hockey.

I get the sense that Zetterberg has been handling more of the "player-coach" responsibilities, lately, which is why his own game is suffering. The players seem to be a bit more motivated than normal, and Blashill hasn't really done anything different to result in such a change. So I assume there was an "internal" resolution and that's why the team has been playing better.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Unless I'm mistaken, this is the Wings first shootout loss since Feb. 20 2016. Going 12-0 in between losses.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Unless I'm mistaken, this is the Wings first shootout loss since Feb. 20 2016. Going 12-0 in between losses.

Yeah we hold the record for most consecutive shootout wins (going into a shootout not every game). After we got it the team lost

 

[Bench]

Random stats time!

I know Bob was lights out, but scoring remains a significant issue for the Wings. Currently sitting at 26th in the league in goals per game. They are staying afloat by keeping more goals out than anticipated, being the 12th lowest goals against.

But to drive home the scoring issue, here's their league wide goals per game over the Blashill era.

2018: 26th (as of November 12)
2017: 26th
2016: 23rd

Since Lidstrom retired (at the end of the 2012 season), the Wings rank 23th in goal scoring over nearly 400 regular season games. Only Arizona, Colorado, Edmonton, Florida, Carolina, Vancouver, New Jersey, and Buffalo fall below.

Surprisingly, the Wings powerplay over that same span is ranked 9th, at 18.9%.

And just for fun, the Wings are 21st in Regulation Overtime Wins (ROW) since the Lidstrom retirement. A bottom 10 team without the shootout.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I thought they were the better team and Bob was the difference last night. Tough loss.

I know we need more offense long-term thinking wise, but I am not super angry about the way we played last night.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Unless I'm mistaken, this is the Wings first shootout loss since Feb. 20 2016. Going 12-0 in between losses.

You're correct Sir.

 

[Pavels Dog]

And just for fun, the Wings are 21st in Regulation Overtime Wins (ROW) since the Lidstrom retirement. A bottom 10 team without the shootout.

"A bottom 10 team if you change the rules to something other than what they are"

 

[Syckle78]

"A bottom 10 team if you change the rules to something other than what they are"

Looking forward to a game 7 so to win the cup. Gosh it's going to be electrifying!

 

[Orthodox Caveman]

Entertaining game but I'm waiting for us to fall in the standings. The prospect of a top 5 pick is more exciting than watching this team try to fight for an extended stay in purgatory.

Dahlin. Svechnikov. Boqvist. Hughes. Wilde. Please hockey gods just give us one.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

"A bottom 10 team if you change the rules to something other than what they are"

The point still stands that the team's success at actually playing hockey has been inflated somewhat by their freakishly good streak in a skills competition.

 

[Ezekial]

The point still stands that the team's success at actually playing hockey has been inflated somewhat by their freakishly good streak in a skills competition.

FWIW
The year they were historically awful in the shootout they made the playoffs. The year they were historically good in the shootout they missed the playoffs.

 

[TheOtherOne]

It didn't matter so I am nitpicking but

I don't understand waiting 8 rounds before giving our leading scorer a shootout chance

And i don't understand Daley in the shootout at all

Can anyone explain these to me using Blashill logic?

 

[golffuul]

Entertaining game but I'm waiting for us to fall in the standings. The prospect of a top 5 pick is more exciting than watching this team try to fight for an extended stay in purgatory.

Dahlin. Svechnikov. Boqvist. Hughes. Wilde. Please hockey gods just give us one.

Even Zadina from Halifax would be nice. Pure scorer lighting it up in the Q in his first season in North America

 

[golffuul]

It didn't matter so I am nitpicking but

I don't understand waiting 8 rounds before giving our leading scorer a shootout chance

And i don't understand Daley in the shootout at all

Can anyone explain these to me using Blashill logic?

My guess is that Daley understands and follows "The Process" that Blashill has imbued into the team. And as a result of that and trying to "Get Him Going", he picked him. It was either that or Glendenning or Helm. Although I thought Glenny has a decent SO %

 

[TheMule93]

Daley probably lights up our goalies when they're practicing shootout situations

 

[TheOtherOne]

Does anyone else remember Daley shooting third earlier this year? I didn't pay it much attention because i wasn't really familiar with him, but since then I've seen his goalscoring stats...

 

[Claypool]

It didn't matter so I am nitpicking but

I don't understand waiting 8 rounds before giving our leading scorer a shootout chance

And i don't understand Daley in the shootout at all

Can anyone explain these to me using Blashill logic?

I think people read far too much into shootout selection process than need be. Mantha didn't score anyway, so what's your point? Maybe they thought Bobrovsky wasn't familiar with Daley in the shootout and would be a curveball. It's not like they threw Jensen out there before Mantha.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

FWIW
The year they were historically awful in the shootout they made the playoffs. The year they were historically good in the shootout they missed the playoffs.

I know . It actually makes it kinda extra painful to be winning them now when ultimately it's not helping them.

Whereas in previous years had they managed to win even some of their shootouts they likely would've had some easier first round matchups.

 

[TheOtherOne]

I think people read far too much into shootout selection process than need be. Mantha didn't score anyway, so what's your point? Maybe they thought Bobrovsky wasn't familiar with Daley in the shootout and would be a curveball. It's not like they threw Jensen out there before Mantha.

I agree that it's not a big deal, more of a curiosity. But also, Daley shooting third earlier in the year pretty much WAS equivalent to throwing Jensen out there before Mantha...

 

[Pavels Dog]

The point still stands that the team's success at actually playing hockey has been inflated somewhat by their freakishly good streak in a skills competition.

If they were so bad at actually playing hockey what does it say about all the teams that couldn't beat them in regulation or OT and ended up losing in SO? You can only play by the rules. Saying a team's success was inflated because they played by the rules is ridiculous.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

If they were so bad at actually playing hockey what does it say about all the teams that couldn't beat them in regulation or OT and ended up losing in SO? You can only play by the rules. Saying a team's success was inflated because they played by the rules is ridiculous.

It says that various other teams on that given night failed to beat the Wings. The Wings, however, are the constant.

Last season the Wings managed 24 ROWs, tying them with Arizona for second fewest in the league (only Colorado was worse). Without their freakish shootout win streak the Wings would've been tied with Arizona and New Jersey for third to last place in the league in points.

I said the shootout points inflated their success at actually playing hockey. I don't want to get into a semantics argument but call it what you want. The shootout streak partially masked just how bad the team was.

I know Holland keeps saying "get in and anything can happen" but when over the course of an 82 game season the team only won 8 more games than it takes to win the Stanley Cup, things aren't looking too good other than to be a first round sweep if you even get in the playoffs.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So no Frk tomorrow night against the Flames and Helm is questionable great.