Rumor: Blow it up or nah? Part II

[BoxOfChocolates]

Great news if true. Rewarding the most deserving player. I like it.

I agree. With it being a Duchene injury, I'm happy they didn't just bump up the lines with a Sislo (etc.) call up.

Give Greer a real shot on the 2nd/3rd line and see what he can contribute.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Assuming it's true, it's the right call. This team needs skill, not some AHL journeyman with a Duchene out.

 

[Freudian]

What happened to Drew Shore. Wasn't he supposed to become an NHLer?

 

[tigervixxxen]

What happened to Drew Shore. Wasn't he supposed to become an NHLer?

TBH I can't keep the Shores straight. There are so many of them and then they switch teams. If its the LA and/or Calgary one then yes.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Thanks to Rampage Nate, I did some snooping on FB and it does look like Greer's been called up to play tomorrow according to some family.

LOL, you guys are such creepers. Awesome

 

[AvsCOL]

Happy for Greer, but that's an awfully depressing second line for a NHL team. Hope he makes the best of the opportunity. One of the most impressive development curves I've seen in all my years watching hockey.

 

[chet1926]

So since it's becoming more and more clear that the players are part of the issue around here, I think it might be time to pull the trigger on some core move trades. I'd propose these.

1.
To EDM:
Barrie

To COL:
RNH

2.
To WPG:
Landeskog

To COL:
Trouba

3.
To ARI:
Pickard

To COL:
Crouse

That leaves us 2 combos to work around this season and Crouse to put somewhere and Jost coming next season:

RNH-MacK
Duchene-Rantanen

Plus it gives us a top 3 on defense of EJ, Trouba and Zadorov to build around for the future.

Plus it eliminates the goalie issue with the upcoming expansion draft.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I think trading Landeskog would be a horrible decision. I'd trade Barrie but I'd like to get some type of right handed D talent come back. Everyone knows I absolutely love these two guys but I'd like to see a trade like Barrie for Crouse and DeAngelo.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I know everyone is going to roll their eyes when I say it but they should try for two for one deals.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I know everyone is going to roll their eyes when I say it but they should try for two for one deals.

Like Barrie for Laws and Tony D?

 

[UncleRisto]

I know everyone is going to roll their eyes when I say it but they should try for two for one deals.

No, that'll definitely help. When the reality is that we'll probably lose a 1-for-1 badly.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Like Barrie for Laws and Tony D?

You are in the right direction!

 

[tigervixxxen]

No, that'll definitely help. When the reality is that we'll probably lose a 1-for-1 badly.

That too. We'll end up with a lateral move at best or lose value.

 

[Avs_19]

Who are we trading for?

 

[Avs44]

There are always lists of scouts at every single game

 

[tigervixxxen]

It would help if the list was consistently posted, it's easier to notice patterns. But it isn't so oh well.

 

[landy92mack29]

Like Barrie for Laws and Tony D?

more like Duchene for Dubois and a 2nd

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

OHL rinks need to be like NHL rinks...more friendlier for scouts.

 

[AvsCOL]

This Soderberg signing is looking ugly one year in... Guy hasn't show anything all year, and he's supposed to be anchoring the 2nd line???


Think you're looking at a decent 3rd line scoring centre, nothing more. Really disappointed in his performance so far.

 

[chet1926]

This Soderberg signing is looking ugly one year in... Guy hasn't show anything all year, and he's supposed to be anchoring the 2nd line???


Think you're looking at a decent 3rd line scoring centre, nothing more. Really disappointed in his performance so far.

That's because, that is what Soderberg is, a 3C who in a emergency situation could move up for a short time. Unfortunately we have him playing as a 2C because our depth is absolute ****. I mean we'd be fine if we actually had some quality top 6 wingers, so that Duchene and MacK could play 1C and 2C, but since we have no quality wingers one of those guys is constantly playing wing and forcing Soderberg into the 2C roll.

He overachieved last season and now everyone's expectations are all out of whack. Soderberg is a 3C on a playoff caliber team, no if's and's or but's.

 

[McMetal]

So since it's becoming more and more clear that the players are part of the issue around here, I think it might be time to pull the trigger on some core move trades. I'd propose these.

1.
To EDM:
Barrie

To COL:
RNH

2.
To WPG:
Landeskog

To COL:
Trouba

3.
To ARI:
Pickard

To COL:
Crouse

That leaves us 2 combos to work around this season and Crouse to put somewhere and Jost coming next season:

RNH-MacK
Duchene-Rantanen

Plus it gives us a top 3 on defense of EJ, Trouba and Zadorov to build around for the future.

Plus it eliminates the goalie issue with the upcoming expansion draft.

If we're going to start dealing the core, I am 1,000% against lateral moves and 1-for-1 deals. If we blow up the core, we had better not be thinking we'll be a good team for the next few years. No more band aids. I want lucrative futures in bulk for these guys. Somebody will pay something similar to what we got for ROR to acquire Barrie and Landeskog on their team-friendly contracts. If we go that route, we build for the future, not lateral moves to try and compete next year or the year after that. Never burning it all down is what got us a decade of stagnation.

 

[Balthazar]

I know everyone is going to roll their eyes when I say it but they should try for two for one deals.

What do you think of Duchene for Sergachev+?

 

[McMetal]

Who are we trading for?

Just as likely that half those teams are scouting the Bruins and not us. I think too much weight gets put on these lists. It sounds like an inside scoop, but most of those guys are scouting the other team or preparing for potential deals that we never hear about because they never get past the initial talks phase.

 

[chet1926]

If we're going to start dealing the core, I am 1,000% against lateral moves and 1-for-1 deals. If we blow up the core, we had better not be thinking we'll be a good team for the next few years. No more band aids. I want lucrative futures in bulk for these guys. Somebody will pay something similar to what we got for ROR to acquire Barrie and Landeskog on their team-friendly contracts. If we go that route, we build for the future, not lateral moves to try and compete next year or the year after that. Never burning it all down is what got us a decade of stagnation.

Those moves aren't lateral moves, they make us better now and in the future. Defense improves, offense becomes slightly more well rounded and goaltending stays the same.

I absolutely do not make any more ROR type deals. You can't continually sell off star caliber NHLers for futures and hope it pans out. Sometimes you need those Jones for Johansen type deals that help both teams.

In my deals, we need a reliable smart 2C so Soderberg isn't in that roll any more, so we acquire RNH who has paired well with MacK in the past. Edmonton needs a PMD they get Barrie. We need a solid top pairing caliber dman so we go after Trouba. Winnipeg gets a solid 2nd line winger in Landeskog to give them secondary scoring behind the big guys. The Pickard for Crouse move was more a we have too many goalies, lets get a decent prospect out of one of them and slot him in for the future.

 

[CobraAcesS]

What do you think of Duchene for Sergachev+?

Because left handed defense is more of a need than skilled forwards?