Speculation: Bilingual Coaches and GM Candidate List Part 3

[Rapala]

At some point you will realize that the GM title with the Canadiens is just that, a title. Jeff Gorton, the big, bad, unilingual American, is the decider/de facto GM.

Which is fine. Great leaders can always been judged by who they surround themselves with. We absolutely want as much intelligent input as possible at all levels from scouting on up. We can't afford to f*** this up now.

 

[417]

Carbonneau as GM? What a dimwit recommendation.

I’m still trying to stomach Serge Savard pining for Benoît Brunet several weeks ago.

These guys are not even trying to hide it — they’re just trying to help friends and it reeks.

Wait, what???

 

[sampollock]

At some point you will realize that the GM title with the Canadiens is just that, a title. Jeff Gorton, the big, bad, unilingual American, is the decider/de facto GM.

so true
face it we want a team that is built right, he is the man

 

[Yarice]

If they hire someone internally for the GM job it will be a f***ing joke.

Why?

I personnaly believe that in every organisations, there is some people that are good at teir job, and some people that are bad at it. An exemple of this was when Boston had Peter Chiarelli as GM, and Don Sweeney and Jim Benning were also in the organisation. Just because they thought a change was needed in the organisation didn't mean that everyone needed to be fired. (I know that Benning left the organisation before Chiarelli was fired, but it's only an exemple)

Now I personally don't know if Sedgwick is a good candidate for a GM position, but I don't see why it is a bad idea to interview him.

 

[eklund the clown]

Why?

I personnaly believe that in every organisations, there is some people that are good at teir job, and some people that are bad at it. An exemple of this was when Boston had Peter Chiarelli as GM, and Don Sweeney and Jim Benning were also in the organisation. Just because they thought a change was needed in the organisation didn't mean that everyone needed to be fired. (I know that Benning left the organisation before Chiarelli was fired, but it's only an exemple)

Now I personally don't know if Sedgwick is a good candidate for a GM position, but I don't see why it is a bad idea to interview him.

Did Renaud Lavoie not know about this interview?

 

[Yarice]

Did Renaud Lavoie not know about this interview?

Why would I know that?

I don't care about Renaud Lavoie

 

[ZUKI]

Competent, being the key word here.
Glad Gorton is on board, who is in charge, of finding that person.....
The last 30 years have not been kind, to the habs, outside of Gainey, we have had no competent person in charge.
Yes, Gainey, was the guy with Uncle George, and Pierre Boivin who resurrected the Habs from the Corey years of mismanaging.
Anyhow, let's hope that Gorton can get us a GM who is competent, and can placate the media in the city....because keeping the media happy, is the most important thing....
Onward, and upward guys....

Gainey had more miles as a GM but that doesn't mean he was more competent. He won a Cup but during the no cap era, working for a top 3 richest teams. We still pay for what he did during his tenure. All those players lost for absolutly nothing ...

 

[eklund the clown]

At some point you will realize that the GM title with the Canadiens is just that, a title. Jeff Gorton, the big, bad, unilingual American, is the decider/de facto GM.

Like trying to convince some that they need to be vaxed.

 

[eklund the clown]

Why would I know that?

I don't care about Renaud Lavoie

Renaud knows everything

 

[Runner77]

Wait, what???

Savard preferred Brunet among others as VPHO instead of Gorton: «On a tellement de gens compétents qui proviennent d'ici!» -Serge Savard

 

[417]

Savard preferred Brunet among others as VPHO instead of Gorton: «On a tellement de gens compétents qui proviennent d'ici!» -Serge Savard

Good lord….no more alumni!!!! Lol

 

[Runner77]

Good lord….no more alumni!!!! Lol

Alumni pas trop allumés.

 

[Guillermo]

Carbonneau as GM? What a dimwit recommendation.

I’m still trying to stomach Serge Savard pining for Benoît Brunet several weeks ago.

These guys are not even trying to hide it — they’re just trying to help friends and it reeks.

He said part of the selection committee, not GM.

Edit,: no he did say that haha

 

[WeThreeKings]

Why?

I personnaly believe that in every organisations, there is some people that are good at teir job, and some people that are bad at it. An exemple of this was when Boston had Peter Chiarelli as GM, and Don Sweeney and Jim Benning were also in the organisation. Just because they thought a change was needed in the organisation didn't mean that everyone needed to be fired. (I know that Benning left the organisation before Chiarelli was fired, but it's only an exemple)

Now I personally don't know if Sedgwick is a good candidate for a GM position, but I don't see why it is a bad idea to interview him.

Anyone who was involved and signed off on the disastrous decisions the team has made over Bergevins tenure should not be in line for a promotion.

 

[Runner77]

Anyone who was involved and signed off on the disastrous decisions the team has made over Bergevins tenure should not be in line for a promotion.

Wouldn’t we need to know what Sedgwick’s role really was behind the scenes? Was he just executing orders? Or were critical decisions that led to failed outcomes, imputable to him?

Ownership did extend Sedgwick’s contract for 3 years as of last June — maybe they didn’t see any contributory negligence on his part. Then again, how much can one trust ownership’s judgment? They somewhat redeemed themselves with the Gorton hiring but that’s not enough.

 

[Yarice]

Anyone who was involved and signed off on the disastrous decisions the team has made over Bergevins tenure should not be in line for a promotion.

Do you think that everybody that worked for the habs in the past 10 years were bad at their job?

Plus, I think he was doing mostly legal stuff. I am not an expert, but I don't think it was necessarly an area where the team was bad during MB era.

 

[ZUKI]

This butt-munching clown was reporting unreservedly last Saturday that the first round of interviews was done.

I don’t know where they’re getting their info or how they’re vetting their sources but these self-styled insiders or beat reporters shouldn’t be making blanket statements like that when there could be inaccuracies.

That the interview info hasn’t completely leaked probably means that the selection committee is playing some of its cards close to the vest or that they may have tightened their grip on the process further.

The important word here is "believe" . Lebrun did the same as most of the journalists do. "I believe this and that" is a personal opinion or view about something. Habs have probably done online interviews so how a journalist could have a clue about who they were and how much they are ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Do you think that everybody that worked for the habs in the past 10 years were bad at their job?

Plus, I think he was doing mostly legal stuff. I am not an expert, but I don't think it was necessarly an area where the team was bad during MB era.

I actually do think that they were minus the goaltending scout.

The entire MB tenure was him hiring his buddies and promoting them.

I've been on record prior to MBs firing saying that none of the executive team should stay around since they have been part of this and we need no remnants of the old regime.

 

[Runner77]

The important word here is "believe" . Lebrun did the same as most of the journalists do. "I believe this and that" is a personal opinion or view about something. Habs have probably done online interviews so how a journalist could have a clue about who they were and how much they are ?

The “believe” qualifier that Engels used in his Tweet on Saturday had to do with the finalists, aka those selected for Round 2. Engels was categorical that Round 1 was complete, no caveats.

LeBrun used “believe” about Round 1. He left himself room for error. Different context, you’re mixing apples and oranges.

 

[McGees]

Have a feel No they’re ‘considering’ Sedgwick as a kindness since he is in the org. Can’t see him getting the spot.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Anyone who was involved and signed off on the disastrous decisions the team has made over Bergevins tenure should not be in line for a promotion.

Do you think that everyone agrees internally with every decision a company makes? Really? Like, do you seriously post on this board thinking that there was nobody competent in management?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Wouldn’t we need to know what Sedgwick’s role really was behind the scenes? Was he just executing orders? Or were critical decisions that led to failed outcomes, imputable to him?

Ownership did extend Sedgwick’s contract for 3 years as of last June — maybe they didn’t see any contributory negligence on his part. Then again, how much can one trust ownership’s judgment? They somewhat redeemed themselves with the Gorton hiring but that’s not enough.

Even then, Sedgwick could have disagreed with a number of moves, but if the GM decides to go forward on a player, he's still going to have to do his job. Like, what the hell?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I actually do think that they were minus the goaltending scout.

The entire MB tenure was him hiring his buddies and promoting them.

I've been on record prior to MBs firing saying that none of the executive team should stay around since they have been part of this and we need no remnants of the old regime.

You really believe the NHL is a comic strip, don't you?

 

[JianYang]

Process is taking turns that no one saw coming. I don’t trust Engels but this time, he claims that he has more than one source about Sedgwick. If true, this candidate brings a wealth of experience that the other interviewees don’t have:

“Sedgwick may not have the right accent, or speak French as fluently as the other candidates, but he has more relevant experience than virtually anyone on the list.

Sedgwick joined the Canadiens in 2013 and has since helped launch both the Rocket and the ECHL’s Trois-Rivieres Lions. He’s a contract specialist who’s been heavily involved in player negotiations, arbitration cases and the day-to-day strategic and financial planning and execution of the club, and my sources say he’s in contention for the job.”

It's plausible.

Gorton said he wants someone to compliment what he brings. Gorton has discussed in the past how he doesn't particularly enjoy the non hockey related tasks. By that, I mean the marketing side of things. Based on that, I don't think he particularly enjoys the contract aspect of things. He enjoys evaluating talent, and hockey related tasks.

Sedgwick as the contract guy could be a good fit for Gorton.

 

[Mr Mom]

Anyone who was involved and signed off on the disastrous decisions the team has made over Bergevins tenure should not be in line for a promotion.

I totally see where you're coming from. As soon as MB hired MT,JJD and SL while saying no to LR....
I HATED HIM.
Right from that point,I truly believed that he was going to ruin this team.

But here's the thing. I feel that an intelligent person in the Habs management would play dumb. MAYBE, just once they would suggest an intelligent decision but that's it.
Why?
Because of MB's ego and his great insecurity.
I strongly get the impression that MB HATED anyone working for him that was Intelligent.
He only wanted friends around him.
More importantly..... friends that were fools and yes men.
Just look at that analytics guy he hired then fired.
I forget his name .... but when he said that Weber was the wrong guy to trade for Subban.
He was fired.
So..... maybe there are some smart hickey minds in this organization.
All I know is this:
If I were a part of the CH management while MB was in charge. I woulda kept my mouth shut and played stupid.
Cause, I feel that if I disagreed or tried to make intelligent decisions. MB would have fired me ASAP.