Besides Bobrovksy, why are there no consistently elite goaltenders anymore

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  1. Balance

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    Like where is this eras Brodeur, Hasek, or Roy?

    Lundvquist use to fit this category but he's simply too old now. Holtby was getting there and just became inconsistent as well. Price fell of a cliff a while ago and besides that can anyone name a truly elite goalie?

    The future looks bleak for goaltenders because you don't see any young up and comers who are dominating the league. Is this just a poor era for elite goalies?
     
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    I think a key point is that they weren't just the best three goalies of the last generation but they are also arguably the top three goalies of all-time.

    They appear to be the anomaly rather than the trend, but the fact that their careers overlapped means that people expect another crop like them.

    One could also argue that they played a fair amount of their careers in the dead-puck obstruction era which helped out their stats.
     
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    wait, since when is Bobrovsky consistently elite? If anything, he's the poster child for outlier seasons and inconsistency.

    his career GAAs are:

    2.59
    3.02
    2.00
    2.38
    2.68
    2.75
    2.06
    2.42
     
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    If Holtby and Price don't count, than neither does Bob. All have had one down year in the last 4 years, but are each elite. Bob can't do playoffs either which is a slight against him when we're talking about consistency.

    Up and comers are Gibson, vasi and hellebyuck, and they all look like they'll be elite.
     
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    Very underrated/under appreciated goalie... if he played in a bigger market than Anaheim he would be super hyped. Instead people struggle to put him into their top 5(including the Vezina trophy voters).
     
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    Holtby had one half of a bad season last year and still won the cup. He's pretty elite.
     
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    Bob is fairly consistent in the regular season but the playoffs are never a good story for him thus far.

    I'll say it before anyone else feels the need ;)
     
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    But the last two years Columbus ended up playing the eventual Stanley Cup winners in the first round. Kind of hard to pad your stats facing that quality of competition.
     
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    his 3.18 GAA in the playoffs last year was his career best....enough said
     
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    oh look another playoff bob referendum how thrilling and original
     
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    The equipment is shrinking and the position will evolve as it always does. You might see more athletic goaltenders in the future if they get too big and slow and the equipment was what was keeping them relevant.
     
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    Holtby had one off year and followed it up with a excellent playoffs, not unlike Roy in '93.

    There aren't a lot of goalies that are consistently good for a decade straight. Those that are usually end up in the HOF.
     
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    The gap between them is shrinking.
     
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    The reason the are no consistently elite goaltenders is that we've gotten used to consistently very good goalies. .910 is Ahl/below average. .915 is average and .920 is very good. They essentially need to perform at peak for years straight and if they drop by a single percentage point they are backup level while competing against the best 500ish people in the world at their jobs. They are all elite, we just define it weird.
     
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    TBH I'd take Holtby over Bobrovsky
     
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    Ridiculous.

    Around 2009-2013, there was a glut of solid goalies, but over the last few years numerous teams have struggled to find competent goaltending (and there aren't many surefire starter backups like when the Canucks had Luongo/Schneider).
     
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    Is it the goalies or the stringent systems play that's keeping them relevant? Seems that the amount of shots blocked and down low play of the defense has gotten more noticeable.
     
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    Lundqvist had 11 seasons of being elite. sorry his 12 and 13 and 14th seasons in the league aren't up to your standards.
     
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    Goalies tend to get paid on what they accomplished previously vs what they are expected to do over the length of their contract, so teams with 30+ goalies are at a competitive disadvantage with a hard cap. If NYR and the Habs were able to put better teams around Price and Lundqvist maybe they still wouldn't be on that all time level but think about the quality of the teams around the big 3 goalies in their 30s compared to the Rangers and Habs now.
     
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    I don't think it's that there are less greater talents so much as there are more above average talents in the NHL.

    There are more than 31 goalies good enough to be a starter in this league imo. It's not the talent's disappeared, it's that the talent GAP has. The better the average, the harder it is to stand out by comparison.
     
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    Yeah, you and everyone else, minus a few Jackets fans.
     
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    Does Bob choke in the playoffs or is it more of a team thing?
     
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    They all read HFBoards which tells them teams don't need elite goalies to win anymore.
     
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    He is sub .900 playoff wise for his career. He has been terrible.
     

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