Confirmed with Link: Bergevin, Timmins & Paul Wilson Fired & Jeff Gorton Hired As EVP of Hockey Ops

[frenchcanayan]

If the GM is going to manage the rosters transactions etc then how is it Gordon's team. I don't understand what the hell this means. And when has a VP of hockey operations been the one who's made trades and signings. Doesn't the general manager always do that? I hope that Molson has the gall to out a puppet in place to please the Francophones who will accept losing over winning with the best candidate regardless of language or heritage but I'm struggling to believe that would be the case. Who is going to agree to be a GM and accept GM awards for someone elses accomplishments in a position involving competitive sports. I just don't see the manager not being the one building the team

I mean I’m pretty sure Ron Hextall took the job in Pittsburgh when everyone knew the owners would be breathing down the new GM’s neck… probably knew the team was going to be on the market soon (or maybe not but still).

What make you think a guy with less experience and status would say no to having a better job / better salary / better status etc just to say he’s unhappy that his boss takes the decisions ? Things just need to be clear from the start. No GM / Executive does it alone anyway

 

[26Mats]

I've only been following the Habs/NHL closely since 2011≈. So all I really know is the MB area. Onto the next chapter.

I feel for you, but hope this next chapter brings more excitement than the last one.

No more, let's try to win with as many grinders we dig out of the bargain bin as possible mentality.

 

[ottawa]

What kind of "people" ? Regular casual fans ?

Filthy casuals. So no real source.

 

[SOLR]

This is exactly why Roy will not get an NHL job as a GM. The idea that one person runs an organization is archaic. Any well run organization is a team. It may have a leader but all that will be fluid depending on what decisions are being made. There needs to be discussion and give and take... I'm sure this is what Gorton will be building in MTL. It's the only way to be successful.

So what is Yzerman running exactly?

Roy has a team, the notion that he wants to do it all alone is quite a bit of a meme. Roy just wants to be "the man", much like the top 15 GMs are.

 

[le_sean]

This is exactly why Roy will not get an NHL job as a GM. The idea that one person runs an organization is archaic. Any well run organization is a team. It may have a leader but all that will be fluid depending on what decisions are being made. There needs to be discussion and give and take... I'm sure this is what Gorton will be building in MTL. It's the only way to be successful.

Exactly. Gorton is there to hire the right people and they will all discuss the moves of the team. Molson didn’t hire a despot.

 

[sampollock]

Get this right Gorton

 

[Seb]

I've only been following the Habs/NHL closely since 2011≈. So all I really know is the MB area. Onto the next chapter.

Man I'm so sorry for you. Many hardcore fans have completely lost interest since he came in, that's how bad it has been.

Sure the teams we're better and more competitive than during the Houle era, but Bergevin killed all the fun aspects of the game. I'm really hoping I can get excited to watch a game again.

 

[Miller Time]

We need them to find new positions.

Who else is going to overvalue some of the turds they’re leaving behind and facilitate a trade with new management.

And with luck, MB will land in the division...

 

[SergeConstantin74]

This is looking like the Habs is Gorton’s team.

If you think that Roy will come in and answer and follow Gorton’s plan, you guys are wrong.

Roy would want complete control.

I don’t think Roy will be in the running but that’s a stupid take.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Radulov loved Montreal. He played for the Remparts for 2 seasons, and was hoping to be drafted in Montreal. He wanted to stay, but Bergevin disrespected him publicly during the negotiation, so he took the better option.

That is, of course, an opinion

 

[Runner77]

Molson is an anglophone, not a francophone.

News to everyone.

 

[Hannibal]

I don’t think Roy will be in the running but that’s a stupid take.

Tell me why?

 

[OnTheRun]

That is, of course, an opinion

Well the public disrespect happened on live television so it's not an opinion.
For the rest, well, no one can read mind so we will never know I suppose. But I see no indication that Radulov didn't like playing for the Habs.

 

[BurntToast]

How many French speaking GMs are left?

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Tell me why?

He wouldn’t do it all alone. He’s not even doing it alone in junior hockey.

 

[Hannibal]

He wouldn’t do it all alone. He’s not even doing it alone in junior hockey.

Pretty sure Roy would want complete control of Habs direction and only report to Molson directly. Can’t see him taking order from Gorton.

 

[zaluty]

I like Daniel Briere as GM. Second would be Madden Jr.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Pretty sure Roy would want complete control of Habs direction and only report to Molson directly. Can’t see him taking order from Gorton.

Order is a strong word. Any GM wouldn’t work like that. I see them working as a team.

 

[V13]

This is the best
Like Star Wars. A New Hope

Lets just hope that it wont end up like the sequel trilogy with the new management

Id prefer something like The Habs Strikes Back with rebuilding the organization instead of the death star

 

[Price is Wright]

Well the public disrespect happened on live television so it's not an opinion.
For the rest, well, no one can read mind so we will never know I suppose. But I see no indication that Radulov didn't like playing for the Habs.

If Bergevin didn't get cute with him he would still be a Hab. He was the best forward in the regular season and playoffs and Bergevin was hard balling him. $6.25M was a steal for Dallas. Montreal should have been offering him $6.5M-$7M out the gate. Bergevin pouted in public because he matched the $6.25M but Radulov already said yes to Dallas.

He put up to 70 point seasons and was great in the playoffs for Dallas. He should have been doing it in Montreal. Bergevin screwed up. He gets credit for signing Radulov in the first place when he denied him a two year deal like Detroit was offering and made him sign a one year. Just complete incompetence in handling a gem that falls in your lap.

 

[Hannibal]

Order is a strong word. Any GM wouldn’t work like that. I see them working as a team.

I see Roy as a guy who wants to be THE guy. With good people surrounding him. But with Gorton, he won’t be THE guy.

 

[Boris Le Tigre]

Funny that this Paul Wilson guy is looped in to this.

 

[Runner77]

Totally shocked.

Insert the sarcasm meme.

Wasn’t the guy Wilson replaced, Daniel Beauchamp, employing similar strong arm tactics that he justified as a means of protecting the brand? Habs have always strived to turn the media into a propaganda arm. How was Wilson any different?

 

[SergeConstantin74]

I see Roy as a guy who wants to be THE guy. With good people surrounding him. But with Gorton, he won’t be THE guy.

That’s why I said your take was stupid. He’s not like that.

 

[1909]

I see Roy as a guy who wants to be THE guy. With good people surrounding him. But with Gorton, he won’t be THE guy.

Roy will be the president and gm of the new Quebec Nordiques, the relocated Ottawa Senators.