B-Sens Belleville 2017-2018 Season

[Deku]

I'd be surprised if Wolanin starts in Belleville, unless we bring in a top 4 LD somehow.

 

[topshelf15]

I'd be surprised if Wolanin starts in Belleville, unless we bring in a top 4 LD somehow.

I think there will be a nice little battle for playing time at LHD ,which is something this team could use....Wolanin has shown some nice stuff in his short stint here,its now on guys like Harpur,Clae Englund ETC...To step up

 

[Blarginator]

We should try and get Ducharme from the Voltigeurs to coach Belleville. I think he'd be a great coach for the farm team and potentially Ottawa eventually.

Montreal just fired their AHL coach so they might already be looking at him. Would love to steal him away from them.

 

[SevenOfSpades]

We should try and get Ducharme from the Voltigeurs to coach Belleville. I think he'd be a great coach for the farm team and potentially Ottawa eventually.

Montreal just fired their AHL coach so they might already be looking at him. Would love to steal him away from them.

I was thinking about this too. Formenton and Batherson will likely both need seasoning, so it would be nice to have a coached who has worked with both. Not to mention Chabot...

 

[saskriders]

How did Englund, Jaros, and Lajoie look this year?

 

[Sun God Nika]

54

Dahlen, Jonathan

LW

0

0

0

2

-1

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We won the trade!

2017-18	Utica Comets	AHL	2	1	1	2	2	-1

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[Burrowsaurus]

I think there will be a nice little battle for playing time at LHD ,which is something this team could use....Wolanin has shown some nice stuff in his short stint here,its now on guys like Harpur,Clae Englund ETC...To step up

lolz

 

[topshelf15]

lolz

Meh maybe not Clae,but iam willing to give Harpur a bit more than 54 games before writting him off

 

[OD99]

He Freddy has been trending the wrong way for a couple of years now IMO and is showing to be too jittery with the puck.

I had hopes for him to be a 3rd pairing guy with a big shot and some timely hits...good enough skater but doesn't seem to see the ice well enough or maybe it is quickly enough.

Harpur showed well in the A and for stints with us - I am willing to give him more time too. Huge body who can skate and sometimes move the puck...let him adjust a bit more.

I am cautiously optimistic about Wolanin simply because I (and many here) have seen these small sample sizes play out great early and then reality catches up. Hopefully he has a productive off season and comes in to camp with the intent to stick around and force himself on the roster. Would be huge for this org if some of the young guys develop for the '18/'19 season.

 

[Xspyrit]

Any guesses on Belleville's lineup for next year?

Who graduates?
White, Chlapik, Harpur, McCormick?

Which prospects get added?
Brown, Gustafsson? Luchuk? Wolanin? Sturtz?

Who gets cut loose or shipped off to Elmira?
Taylor, Driedger ect?

Taylor is UFA and shouldn’t be back

 

[aragorn]

My Belleville guess for next season:

Out: IMO all the UFAs - Taylor, Blunden, Randell & Reinhart
Returning: White, Hogberg, Gustavsson, Englund, Jaros, Gagne, Dreidger, Chlapik, Sexton, Lajoie, Rodewald, Perron, Moutrey, Paul, Erkamps, Burgdoerfer, JOB, Pokka, Sieloff, Donaghey & Sturtz
Joining next season: Brown, Batherson, Luchuk, Wolanin & Leier

I assume a couple of these guys could play in Ottawa at some point next season, maybe a couple get traded or cut & a few could play between the ECHL & Belleville. I guess it's possible that if Ottawa drafts a European/Russian that he may end up in Belleville too or Ottawa.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

OK .. so tell me something is not broken here and someone shouldn't be accountable. On that top one the -1 is actually an accomplishment

 

[aragorn]

OK .. so tell me something is not broken here and someone shouldn't be accountable. On that top one the -1 is actually an accomplishment

I'm guessing that there can't be all that many, if any quality hockey players available after the hockey season starts or mid-season that can be signed to PTOs? I would expect the quality players to be all taken & these guys to be temporary fillers with very little quality. DD was probably the best of the bunch & was probably done as a favour. They did get two decent players in Pokka & Gustavsson through trades which is how I would expect to get quality players during the season.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'm guessing that there can't be all that many, if any quality hockey players available after the hockey season starts or mid-season that can be signed to PTOs? I would expect the quality players to be all taken & these guys to be temporary fillers with very little quality. DD was probably the best of the bunch & was probably done as a favour. They did get two decent players in Pokka & Gustavsson through trades which is how I would expect to get quality players during the season.

Its the 4 year record that is most concerning to me.

 

[aragorn]

Its the 4 year record that is most concerning to me.

Agreed. Hopefully, they will get some improvement in net next season which could improve their record.

 

[NyQuil]

2017-18	Utica Comets	AHL	2	1	1	2	2	-1

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Still -1 eh?

Selfish.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Belleville and Ottawa have similar issues.. Goal tending . Defense. Management and Coaching.
Belleville Senators Season Review: Part One

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Agreed. Hopefully, they will get some improvement in net, scoring, defense, special teams and coaching next season which could improve their record.

fixed.

 

[Xspyrit]

OK .. so tell me something is not broken here and someone shouldn't be accountable. On that top one the -1 is actually an accomplishment

I don't think it's anything special or surprising. Guys that aren't signed during the year are leftovers, most are just signed short term to fill jerseys because there's a lot of injuries and call-ups in the AHL. I would be surprised if somebody could find a player that actually put good/decent numbers in those situations.

The problem seems to be more the fact that Sexton (only had 127 AHL games under the belt) seems to be the only veteran who put decent numbers. If you look at Pts/Game :

1. Boston Leier (8 Games)
2. Ben Sexton
3. Filip Chlapik
4. Ben Harpur
5. Colin White
6. Chris DiDomenico
7. Max McCormick
8. Thomas Chabot
9. Nick Paul
10. Andrew Sturtz
11. Ville Pokka (total)
12. Jim O'Brien

Among the 11 best PPG, 10 are prospects/rookies. Not much veteran scoring.

Outside of that, same as the big club : poor coaching, poor goaltending and lack of team defense.

 

[Tonester01]

Belleville and Ottawa have similar issues.. Goal tending . Defense. Management and Coaching.
Belleville Senators Season Review: Part One

Good assessment. The power play was poor but the coach never changed it. Veterans should be scorers and not guys like Selleck.
As a season ticket holder and former season ticket holder, I comment as follows:
Much more professional atmosphere and game time experience;
Concession prices are steep;
Better hockey as it is faster;
Place would rock if there was a good team;
Younger crowd than Bull's crowd;
Too much VIP parking in parking lot B and who are VIP's other than team and families. This is an issue that will turn people off the team; and
50/50 contribution to local charities is impressive.
Hopefully they keep the interest up and not destroy it like Simmonds and Burnette did.
Already renewed tickets for next year.

 

[aragorn]

I don't see the Belleville Senators being all that much better next season when it's likely they will have a much younger team with more inexperienced prospects. Brown, Batherson, Luchuk should up the skill level at forward & a full yr with Wolanin could help the backend & hopefully, they get better goaltending with Hogberg & Gustavsson.

Not sure a coaching change will make that big a difference given the inexperience but I like the idea of having a coach in Belleville who is trending towards the big leagues & could take over should a change in Ottawa be necessary. Ducharme would be an interesting choice but so would any number of NHL Assistant Coaches. What about Dave Cameron in Belleville?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Can someone with a subscription provide some points on what is being said here?

 

[toxic poster]

Can someone with a subscription provide some points on what is being said here?

Literally nothing we havent said here tbh. I can c/p the article and send it to you if you really want to read it tjo

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Literally nothing we havent said here tbh. I can c/p the article and send it to you if you really want to read it tjo

Someone did already thanks though.. I read it ..very similar critiques as we have been through... its nice to see in published there though. Maybe Dorion and Lee subscribe and can get their act together with Belleville. Randy Lee is developing a reputation for the preference of the archaic hockey thug over skill.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Part 2 Eyes on the Sens end of season review
Belleville Senators Season Review: Part Two


definitely needs adjustments... Pierre said its his responsibility... they want to get younger and faster .. they want to be competitive at both levels.. they need to clean it up. This should be the easiest thing to address that could pay big dividends. Get competent people.