Friedman: "Believe trade market is being held up by one or two teams being hesitant"

Ola

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This happens every year. Hence the "Dominoes" meme.

There is talk about this every year like the dams are about to open, but there will be a few moves at the deadline like all years and maybe 1-2 a little ahead of it as usual...
 
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There is talk about this every year like the dams are about to open, but there will be a few moves at the deadline like all years and maybe 1-2 a little ahead of it as usual...
The salary cap and parity have killed the trade market for the most part.
We saw Duchene moved but overall gone are the days of the huge trades.
You need to build through the draft and if you want to trade something good it's usually an across the board young C for D or what have you.
 
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Nizdizzle

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Says a Leafs fan, take off your rose colored glasses, this team is going no where with that defense. Period
The post specifically mentioned goaltending. Which has been a strength of the Leafs for the past year and a half. Absolutely it was an misinformed post, no one who watches the Leafs would think goaltending is a concern or worry.

The defensive woes is an HF stereotype that gets blow out of proportion around here. Is it a weakness? Absolutely, every team has one. Is it a liability? Not at all.
 

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Ok so who is holding up the floodgates:

E Kane
Patches
JVR
Hoffman/Stone.
...
?

Those would be the bigger pieces who might be moved who people could be waiting to see on.
Maybe seeing if Ottawa will go full rebuild?
E Kane/ Buffalo may be getting low balled because of recent struggles?
Some bubble teams may not have given up yet?
Teams looking if they can re sign guys are tip toeing around the tulips on trading the guy?
I.e. same as every year.
 

TS Quint

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I’d like to bet you on this return.

He’s put together over a year of production that is not readily available at a deadline...on top of physical play team wants in the playoffs.

“They know the sabres have to move him” yeah that’s most rentals especially the ones with big names.

“They know his track record”. Do they know all of it? Because not only will the last year and a half of being a good soldier loved in the room count...but HES A RENTAL.

Look forward to your head scratching anger when he returns a ton.

At the end of the day you can’t buy his even strength production anywhere else.
So, what’s the expectation?
 

TS Quint

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Kane has always been on his best behaviour waiting to cash out. This does not excuse his negative behaviour. Look at his best years:

2011/12 Season @ 57 points was his best season
2012/18 contract @ $5.25M per

2009/10 - 26 points
2010/11 - 43 points
2011/12 - 57 points
2012/13 - 33 points
2013/14 - 41 points
2014/15 - 22 points
2015/16 - 35 points
2016/17 - 43 points
2017/18 - 35 points (projected 70)

Interestingly, his best seasons have always been his final season before a new contract 2011/12 & 2017/18. However, the seasons prior to his final years are his next best 2010/11 & 2016/17.

The numbers don’t lie, he improves his play when it personally suits him. Any team stupid enough to take him has nobody else to blame when he fails to meet expectations.

He’s worthless unless he’s on his final season. Consider him only as a rental and nothing more...3rd round pick.
You’re not making much sense. You’re saying this is a contract year so he’s playing really good and he will continue to for the rest of the year for his contract. Sounds like a valuable and motivated rental piece to me. Then you are saying he’s only worth a 3rd? No one is signing him to a contract at the deadline.
 

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You’re not making much sense. You’re saying this is a contract year so he’s playing really good and he will continue to for the rest of the year for his contract. Sounds like a valuable and motivated rental piece to me. Then you are saying he’s only worth a 3rd? No one is signing him to a contract at the deadline.

He is motivated and teams don’t want a selfish player that only cares about himself. Leave him in Buffalo.
 

Ola

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The salary cap and parity have killed the trade market for the most part.
We saw Duchene moved but overall gone are the days of the huge trades.
You need to build through the draft and if you want to trade something good it's usually an across the board young C for D or what have you.

The biggest problem is lack of incentives for GMs to make trades. A GM in this league has zero pressure on him. It’s so easy to sell a story of how you are building towards the future for many years. One of few — almost the only — way to look bad is to make a bad trade. A trade always almost have a “winner” and a “loser”. UFA signings can suck too, but they are often cleared by owners.

A NHL GM often have about 31 jobs in the world, if they don’t get one of those jobs they can’t get many attractive positions. OTOH one of those jobs are tremendously attractive. Well paid. A ton of status. It’s fun! Many obviously are very very very risk adverse. From the out side, it’s really easy to spot many organizations that should do more, must takes risks etc. But they aren’t...
 

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