Illinihockey
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Do you think Lamar Jackson and Elway are similar QBs?
no and I don’t think Lamar Jackson and kyler Murray are either
Do you think Lamar Jackson and Elway are similar QBs?
Russell Wilson can definitely read a defense, so could Cam Newton and if you go back far enough, McNabb and Culpepper.It’s amazing to see people compare Kyle Murray to Lamar Jackson but say josh Allen is different, literally the entire point of my comment is this. White qbs can read defenses, black qbs are just runners that can’t play the position
no and I don’t think Lamar Jackson and kyler Murray are either
Kyler murray is shortish, but definitely not skinny.Russell Wilson can definitely read a defense, so could Cam Newton and if you go back far enough, McNabb and Culpepper.
Trubisky can't read a defense and neither could Allen during his first 2 seasons. And then there were others who just sucked like Bortles and Ponder.
Being able to read a defense is the single most important aspect of being a QB in the NFL.
There are QBs who just suck and most of it comes down to that.
If people want to rail on Murray and Jackson a fair criticism is that QBs don't last long in the NFL unless they eventually pick their spots to run and avoid contact. Both are shortish and skinny, and the NFL is a large man's game. This is what killed Newton's career. He was built like a tank and it didn't matter.
They have to evolve a Russell Wilson type game to have a long career.
This thread is two steps away from another debate about thighs
Shitty passers don't throw for 4000 yds as a rookie and win NFL MVP.Cam showed what?
He was pretty shitty passer most of his career and was guy who struggled if you took away his running options and forced him to throw from pocket
Cam had awful accuracy on short and medium throws
There's so much more to it than blanket pass yards. What was his completion percentage? About 60% and his Yards per catch? Over 13 which is quite high. Meaning he through deep a lot.Shitty passers don't throw for 4000 yds as a rookie and win NFL MVP.
Cam's career was derailed by injury, no doubt in my mind. He didn't adapt the way he needed to, quickly enough.
It’s amazing to see people compare Kyle Murray to Lamar Jackson but say josh Allen is different, literally the entire point of my comment is this. White qbs can read defenses, black qbs are just runners that can’t play the position
Kyler Murray has passed for over 3700 yards each season for 3 seasons, John Elway did that 3 times in 16 years. Murray (had he not missed games this year) would have attempted over 520 passing attempts each season for 3 years, Elway did that 3 times in 16 years. But Elway is of course a pure pocket passer and Murray is the running QB, weird.
It’s amazing to see people compare Kyle Murray to Lamar Jackson but say josh Allen is different, literally the entire point of my comment is this. White qbs can read defenses, black qbs are just runners that can’t play the position
You are really extrapolating.
Trubisky is white. He can't read a defense, but can run. Fields is black, he's struggled to read a defense, but can run.
Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are white and can read defenses better than anyone who has ever played the game. Baker Mayfield is white but can't read a D for shit. Neither can Jared Goff.
Bears blog dude said his interview went horrible and they asked why they traded for Wentz in February rather than waiting for free agency and draft.View attachment 499768
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That's quite a stretch there super chief.
I see people talking only about Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson. Are they talking about Russell Wilson too?
And Josh Allen IS different. The fact that Lamar Jackson isn't a solid pocket passer has nothing to do with white or black. It has to due with reality.
Easy question to ask but that’s fineBears blog dude said his interview went horrible and they asked why they traded for Wentz in February rather than waiting for free agency and draft.
Put stock into whatever you want.
That's quite a stretch there super chief.
I see people talking only about Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson. Are they talking about Russell Wilson too?
And Josh Allen IS different. The fact that Lamar Jackson isn't a solid pocket passer has nothing to do with white or black. It has to due with reality.
this started because someone said qbs like Lamar Jackson and kyler Murray can’t win, it 100% has to do with race because the biggest thing those two guys have in common is their skin color.
The Bears are taking Bill Polians advice already
Signed Lamar Jackson but to be a DB.
Aren't you the same guy who made fun of Aqib Talib because of "how he talked" in the booth coming from a Muslim background and growing up in Texas most of his life? Yea you might want to sit this one out "super chief".
I rarely agree with @Illinihockey but he is right on the money here.
Defending Aqib Talib's broadcasting is a weird hill to die on.
You know who else thought he was terrible? Everyone on the planet.