Barzal vs Hischier + Zacha

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Who do you take going forward? Barzal or Hischier + Zacha?

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[Sidney the Kidney]

Maybe I'm badly underrating Zacha, but IMO, this is essentially whether you want Barzal or Hischier going forward.

I've never been overly impressed with Zacha and didn't think he'd ever be worthy of that 6th overall (or whatever spot Shero took him at) selection.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

eh it depends if barzal last year is the actual barzal then him if not then nico+zacha.
Nico might be one of the better two way top picks in awhile, other then matthews cant think of a recent top 3 pick that had a notable two way game as a prospect, and hes shown it in the big league too.

 

[slimbob8]

Hischier is two years younger (which is a huge factor at these ages) and a 1st overall talent. As good as Barzal is, I'd be very surprised if Hischier isn't at least at his level in a few years.

 

[M2Beezy]

Hischier getting CRAZY underrated here. Hes gonna be quite comparable to Barzal in a couple a years, so throwing in Zacha makes me vote for Hischier/Zacha

 

[StoneHands]

Barzal. Are we supposed to pretend that adding a bottom 6 plug would put Hischier over the top?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Hischier is awesome, but Zacha does pretty much nothing for me. Barzal is a PPG center, so I'd go with him

 

[Strait2thecup]

May as well just make it Barzal vs hischier

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Hischier is really good. Him and Barzal should top out pretty close. I’ll vote the one with an extra player even if Zacha isn’t amazing.

 

[Critical13]

I think Hischier will be an elite 2 way C so I picked him.

nm accidentally picked Barzal

 

[swissexpert]

Barzal. Are we supposed to pretend that adding a bottom 6 plug would put Hischier over the top?

I'd take Hischier alone.
He's two years younger and had a much better D+1 season than Barzal.

 

[CodeE]

Personally, I can't think of a single young center in the league that won't be better than Mat "One Good Season" Barzal within the next 1-2 years. Everyone else will get much better while Barzal gets much worse, that's the way hockey works.

 

[LordNeverLose]

I'd take Hischier alone.
He's two years younger and had a much better D+1 season than Barzal.

Yes, but Barzal is much better right now.

 

[StoneHands]

I'd take Hischier alone.
He's two years younger and had a much better D+1 season than Barzal.

And Barzal had a much, much better rookie season. I'll change my mind if/when Hischier puts up 30 more points.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I know people like to bring up what players did in their D+1 year to argue they'll be a better player, even in situations like this where Barzal's D+3 season was so good, but is there evidence that that actually is the case?

For example, a former 1st overall Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had a much, much better D+1 year than Claude Giroux. But he's never come close to matching Giroux's career peaks. So if you'd compared them in RNH's rookie year, anyone saying "yeah, Giroux had the better year, but just wait until RNH is older because his D+1 blew Giroux's out of the water" would look foolish now.

Are there more examples of cases where it suggests Hischier will end up better by virtue of him having a better D+1?

 

[tony d]

Option 2 for me. I still think Zacha's going to be a good player for the Devils going forward.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Barzal a year older than Nico
Different type players.

Both have loads of potential to be great for a long time.

Zacha still has a chance to be a solid 2nd liner, we will see.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

Now let's do a Hall vs Gaudreau poll

 

[thadd]

Given their age and draft pedigree it's hard not to go with the duo.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Barzal is a stud where as Hischier is a good player and Zacha hasn't done anything. I take the stud everyday over the good player.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Barzal. Are we supposed to pretend that adding a bottom 6 plug would put Hischier over the top?

Considering Hischier is the better overall player when both were 19, Zacha is added bonus if it were a trade

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

I know people like to bring up what players did in their D+1 year to argue they'll be a better player, even in situations like this where Barzal's D+3 season was so good, but is there evidence that that actually is the case?

For example, a former 1st overall Ryan Nugent-Hopkins had a much, much better D+1 year than Claude Giroux. But he's never come close to matching Giroux's career peaks. So if you'd compared them in RNH's rookie year, anyone saying "yeah, Giroux had the better year, but just wait until RNH is older because his D+1 blew Giroux's out of the water" would look foolish now.

Are there more examples of cases where it suggests Hischier will end up better by virtue of him having a better D+1?

Are we supposed to just ignore the difference at their ages?

Hischier had a better D+1 AND it was only his second season on NA ice...

 

[TheDoldrums]

Personally, I can't think of a single young center in the league that won't be better than Mat "One Good Season" Barzal within the next 1-2 years. Everyone else will get much better while Barzal gets much worse, that's the way hockey works.

Good grief, are you ever not offended? Barzal is winning the poll.

 

[Wooren]

I would take Barzal over Hischier rather easily. Zacha might not even be in the NHL in five years, he doesn't make any difference.

 

[CodeE]

Good grief, are you ever not offended? Barzal is winning the poll.

The same way Leaf fans seem to be the only ones "offended" that I might be a bit of a Barzal homer?