Speculation: Barrie

[rent free]

The Kessel deal wasn't a good one for us either. He was worth more of a return to us than we got and we retained for many years. I didn't like that trade and I didn't like the Barrie trade.

it's quite sad we're *still* paying kessel. guess who made that trade as well? the dubes. smh

 

[Ifittex il Verita]

Thr Bruins routinely kept the puck in on the right when in the Leafs zone last playoff series, they were clearly targeting the teams inablity to exit the zone from that side. A guy like Barrie gives the team the ability to get the puck out with more options

I agree that Barrie wasnt the perfect fit - but would reject the notion he didnt fill any need by the team. Ideally they would have gotten more of a two way player, but i think management got a bit too fixated on getting two pieces back in the deal beacuse they werent sure how well Spezza would fit as 3c

So we get a guy who can exit the zone, nice. At what expense though? Boston would have completely destroyed Barrie in our own zone and it would have led to hell of a lot more goals against overall because the guy can't defend to save his life.

The Kerfoot side of the trade is funny. Yet another one dimensional forward. Not exactly my idea of what we needed in a 3C, a PP specialist who can't kill penalties and got bounced between wing and center. Cause you know, the Leafs totally lack guys who can fill in on the PP, woulda been nice to finally get a center who can kill penalties but hey, screw it.

 

[Stephen]

Kadri for a defenseman made sense, but the length of Barrie's contract didn't make a lot of sense when it meant shortening the service time of the major asset in that deal from three years to one cheap season.

Now Dubas will have to clear cap and rebuild that asset.

 

[Menzinger]

So we get a guy who can exit the zone, nice. At what expense though? Boston would have completely destroyed Barrie in our own zone and it would have led to hell of a lot more goals against overall because the guy can't defend to save his life.

The Kerfoot side of the trade is funny. Yet another one dimensional forward. Not exactly my idea of what we needed in a 3C, a PP specialist who can't kill penalties and got bounced between wing and center. Cause you know, the Leafs totally lack guys who can fill in on the PP, woulda been nice to finally get a center who can kill penalties but hey, screw it.

A D who can exit the zone is better than a centre spending the series in the pressbox two years in a row.

The Leafs 3c just needs to eat up 15-16 minutes of icetime and not be a liability. Both Kerfoot and Spezza tick those boxes.

Which pk killing centre would you have targeted instead?

 

[TMLeafer]

What an absolute flop. Terrible trade in retrospect. The Kerfoot part of the trade isn't that impressive either.

 

[Jozay]

Flop trade.

What a shame. Kadri should've got a longterm asset better than Kerfoot.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

it's quite sad we're *still* paying kessel. guess who made that trade as well? the dubes. smh

That Kessel trade was Shanahan

 

[Apex Predator]

If he says a long term contract some team will be regretting that in a few years. If I’m a team I’m signing him to 3 years at most.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Complete f*** up of a trade. Absolutely the wrong type of dman to target. Oh well.....

 

[All Mod Cons]

Not all trades work out, but Dubas has shown isn't afraid to try and fix a weakness.
It's good to have him in charge.

Brian Burke wasn't afraid either. That's not exactly a positive

 

[Dekes For Days]

Probably the right time to move on from him, but a good trade. Good and underrated defenseman for us, that addressed a big need at the time for a great cost. Helped improve our defensive results and likely helped save our season with all of the defensive injuries.

 

[BertCorbeau]

While talking about the trade, it's worth mentioning that a deal for TJ Brodie was first up but Kadri blocked that trade.

 

[ottomaddox]

Not a good trade, but never forget the ****up Kadri used to be. TJ Brodie would have been nice, but to me a "moving on from" trade doesn't always create a winning situation.

 

[All Mod Cons]

While talking about the trade, it's worth mentioning that a deal for TJ Brodie was first up but Kadri blocked that trade.

Yeah that's the confusing thing. I've no idea why Dubas was adamant on trading our best, seemingly available, trade chip for an impending UFA. Why not consider someone with term?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Yeah that's the confusing thing. I've no idea why Dubas was adamant on trading our best, seemingly available, trade chip for an impending UFA. Why not consider someone with term?

He likely did, but he needed somebody of quality, in the most sought-after position, at a low cost, in a league-wide cap squeeze year. He found somebody that ticked all of the boxes (coming off of a dominant postseason as one of the best players on his team), and also got a cheaper, versatile young player with similar non-PP production in return. People also suddenly now act like Kadri was worth more in trade than he was. He had a decent contract, but he was a player coming off of a 44 point season and mediocre play, showing signs of decline, and had just been suspended for two postseasons in a row. If the trade was reversed, Leaf nation would be rioting. Barrie and Kerfoot was a great return, and it helped us way more this season than Kadri would have.

 

[Morbo]

Dubas tried to address 2 spots with one trade. He got a 3rd line centre making less than what Kadri was making & tried to improve the top 4 because they were lacking guys that could fill that role.

It didn't work out. Those things happen.

I'm glad he took a shot with the trade.

Dubas got good value, but the players didn't work out as expected. It happens. You're left to wonder if Brodie/Jankowski would have worked out better or not I suppose. Tough to say.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Yeah that's the confusing thing. I've no idea why Dubas was adamant on trading our best, seemingly available, trade chip for an impending UFA. Why not consider someone with term?

Likely not available. If he hangs on to Kadri and tries to band-aid the blue line with another Ceci like solution, he faces a lot of backlash for not making a bigger impact move to improve the blue line.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

While talking about the trade, it's worth mentioning that a deal for TJ Brodie was first up but Kadri blocked that trade.

Dubas deserves more flak for nearly trading Kadri for Brodie/Jankowski than he gets for the Colorado trade honestly. That would've been far worse

 

[8816 others]

Par for the course after letting assets walk like JVR, Bozak, Komarov, and Gardiner.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Dubas deserves more flak for nearly trading Kadri for Brodie/Jankowski than he gets for the Colorado trade honestly. That would've been far worse

How so?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

How so?

Because at least Kerfoot is a ~30-35 point center with decent defense. Jankowski just put up 7 points this year

 

[BertCorbeau]

Because at least Kerfoot is a ~30-35 point center with decent defense. Jankowski just put up 7 points this year

But Brodie would have been better than Barrie.

Janko's had a really bad year though he showed some promise last season.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Likely not available. If he hangs on to Kadri and tries to band-aid the blue line with another Ceci like solution, he faces a lot of backlash for not making a bigger impact move to improve the blue line.

There are haters who will find a way to s*** on him no matter what he does (or does not) do, and they'll even make crap up to try to make it stick. Unless he does exactly what they want, which would lead the team right down the toilet, they won't be happy... So I guess the more they complain, the more he is doing a good job.

 

[Fogelhund]

The same old rearview mirror detractors, who simply forget that Kadri had to be moved. As mentioned above, after his worst production, and two playoff suspensions in a row. His value was depressed, and the market likely limited. The first potential trade vetoed... exactly how many other offers do you think Dubas received? He tried to make do with the limited options, and ended up moving him for a pair of assets, to fill spots we needed, with cap retained. Barrie didn't have a great first half of the year, but stepped up offensively when Rielly went down, even if his defense was suspect. We all knew we couldn't keep him, time to move on.

 

[saffronleaf]

Trade looked good when it happened.

Kerfoot hasn't been the same since jaw injury, which is understandable.

Barrie couldn't contribute until Babcock left, which is understandable.

Things happen.

Still, would have loved to see Kadri used as a top 6 winger under Keefe.