You gotta put down the Corona and come in from the sun if you think Illitch and his Little Caesar empire has deeper pockets than the Wirtz Corp.
LOLZ
Google is your friend my man. The Illitch family is LOADED.
LOLZ
Google is your friend my man. The Illitch family is LOADED.
Marotte Marauder
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Sit down when you have a few hours and Google ALL the Wirtz Enterprises.
You just might learn a thing or two about old money.
Uh no. TY. Pretty sure I can come up with several hundred better ways to spend my time.
Don't care how old...or new someone's "money" is. When you're into the multiple billions it's largely academic. We are talking about a coaches contract here.
Marotte Marauder
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Uh no. TY. Pretty sure I can come up with several hundred better ways to spend my time.
Don't care how old...or new someone's "money" is. When you're into the multiple billions it's largely academic. We are talking about a coaches contract here.
Glad you came to your senses.
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You gotta put down the Corona and come in from the sun if you think Illitch and his Little Caesar empire has deeper pockets than the Wirtz Corp.
Not sure what you're laughing about you are way off base.
It is the difference between a patriarch of a family business and one that has split his inheritance several ways.
When Bill Wirtz passed away he was worth between 3 to 4 billion dollars, though a lot of that is invested in the Liquor company and were not accessible. Rocky is worth 500 million, not sure what Chris will be worth.
But Mike and Marian Ilitch are worth 4.8 Billion dollars, Mike Ilitch makes up 2.7 billion of that.
The Wings investment in their stadium project which they are being roundly criticized for by some represents half of Rock Wirtz's net worth. They are just offering that up as like yeah we want to do this part.
The Ilitch's have an insane amount of money. They have also spread it out within the family quite a bit more with the kids and Marian owning several of their properties.
Anyway the Wirtz family has an estimated net worth of 4.2 billion dollars. Ilitch's family exceeds 5 billion when looking at the children's involvement. It will be interesting to see how it goes when the empire passes on, though as I said a ton of the properties are actually owned by her and her health is still very good.
He doesn't just own Little Caesars he owns millions of dollars worth of property, a massive entertainment company with several properties, casinos and things of that nature.
Really their wealth has an outstanding chance of going through the roof as a part of it has been used to buy up virtually useless land they are now going to build the stadium on to connect downtown to midtown. If the project goes well, you're looking at maybe a billion dollar windfall in terms of their net worth as they own all of that area.
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InjuredChoker
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what's wrong with what he said?
team that tries to rebuild while making playoffs and trading away picks?
that feels like project to me.
team that tries to rebuild while making playoffs and trading away picks?
that feels like project to me.
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So every worse situation type team in the league is in on this according to Dreger.... That is fine, if he leaves we will interview Blashill and likely McLellan. Not sure that is the huge drop off many are going to make it out to be. We will see, if it is just about his bottom line or wanting too much money or power I wish him success with anybody except the Leafs and against us.
His resume internationally is much better than it has been with us over the last half decade. If he is going to get paid based off that, fine, but the sky isn't falling if Babcock leaves assuming we get either Blashill or McLellan in my opinion.
We will see, I do think this has been a minor distraction whether or not he wanted it to be, I haven't been a big fan of this all year.
Still most of these suitors look utterly unappealing outside of a money grab and what I can only assume will be an increase in hockey decisions. The second part makes sense if he wants that he isn't getting it here. If it is all about the bottom line, enjoy your worse situation and the extra 2 or 3 million over the term of the contract Babs.
His resume internationally is much better than it has been with us over the last half decade. If he is going to get paid based off that, fine, but the sky isn't falling if Babcock leaves assuming we get either Blashill or McLellan in my opinion.
We will see, I do think this has been a minor distraction whether or not he wanted it to be, I haven't been a big fan of this all year.
Still most of these suitors look utterly unappealing outside of a money grab and what I can only assume will be an increase in hockey decisions. The second part makes sense if he wants that he isn't getting it here. If it is all about the bottom line, enjoy your worse situation and the extra 2 or 3 million over the term of the contract Babs.
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The term project basically seen as synonymous with more major renovations around the NHL. It's the the professional term for a rebuild, basically. Shows a lack of faith in either the players or prospects in my opinion. We're really not that much better than most of us thought we would be, I don't think. I think you can see that Dreger is insinuating that Detroit is now no longer a project. Quote just surprised me a bit. Not that Detroit wasn't literally a project and Babcock could have meant it that way but I've never seen the term project used for teams that are not expected to be at least towards the bottom 1/3 of the standings.
icKx
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If that was the case Babcock would be signed to a new deal. The only reason half this roster is filled with young guys is because the washed up guys Holland loves ('cause they're cheap) put his beloved playoff streak at risk last year.Hate on Babcock all you want. I do not know if he actually said that but it sure as hell rings true, so I wouldn't discount it as being a legit quote. Truth hurts, don't it?
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I didn't want Babs back even before that article.
I want a new coach - a fresh face.
I'm also tired of his bullcrap doghouse routine
I want a new coach - a fresh face.
I'm also tired of his bullcrap doghouse routine
GoAwayDanCleary
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Might sound crazy but I don't really see a big dropoff if Babs leaves and is replaced by a very good coach in Blashill or someone similar. Really this team needs a new face in the locker room, especially the vets IMO.
I'm sick and tired of Babs to be honest, so that's probably skewing my opinion.
We also haven't seen life without Babcock so saying you don't see a huge dropoff is a little premature. Blashill could be a great coach. He could be the next Scotty Bowman. Sure. But we really don't know what kind of impact it would have on the team if Babcock was replaced by a rookie NHL coach is blashill, sure he could be capabl, or he could end up as bad as Dallas Eakins.
Babcock's favorite quote this year "The grass isn't always greener". Applies pretty well im this situation too.
That drop from Babcock (Hall of Fame caliber coach) to Blashill (0 NHL games coached) is enormous. No way around it.
I thought everyone knew detroit was a project? I mean Ken Holland, has talked about the retooling for years.
GoAwayDanCleary
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Both of you are absolutely correct. What I am looking at is the past four years, which can be considered nothing more than absolutely average. Its gotten to the point where something substantial needs to change this off season IMO. I see letting Babs go as one option, but if he stays there are plenty of other options like trades and FA.
Of course we still have to wait and see how the playoffs play out, but my expectations are pretty low at the moment.
After last seasons abysmal run with injuries it's hard to say Babcock didn't do a masterful job of gettinf us to the playoffs.
Babcock works with what he has, the last four seasons have been pretty average. Detroit only had an average team for most of those years. People expected Detroit to be fairly average this year and fight dor a wildcard spot--- well we are doing that, but for most of the season we were fighting for tops in the division. This slump is very recent and I think that people have been far too reactive and looking for change in what has been a solid team thus far--- I attribute our overachievement at least partially to Babcock.
Change sounds nice, but it ends up working differently in reality than what most would end up liking. Then agakn Blash could legitimately be the next Bowman, I don't know.
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