dahrougem2
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Lmao the accuracy.Even the guy who went back, became a global name after he had an hour-long special on ESPN to announce that he's GTFO of Ohio!
Lmao the accuracy.Even the guy who went back, became a global name after he had an hour-long special on ESPN to announce that he's GTFO of Ohio!
It is fair to not like Boedker, but Boedker was the least of the reasons that the Avs didn't make the playoffs. He was pretty damn good here. 12 points in 18 games for a deadline player is pretty damn solid. If that team went .500 in the last 6 games, they would have been in the playoffs and that trade would be a pure footnote. That was a pathetic collapse at the end.
He wasn't the reason they made it, but if MacK & Dutchy had stayed healthy & the team not collapsed in their absence, then Boedker also wouldn't have been the reason they made it and his paper-soft 12 points in 18 games would have also been a pure footnote
I have no inside knowledge of it. He's always lacked flexibility and it is possible his body has just maxed out... and then you compound that with other prospects coming in and stealing his PP time, you have a player that is a liability 5v5 and isn't being utilized in the area that he excels in. In other words, a fairly useless player right now.
The Boedker trade looks reckless in hindsight, but even so, the assets lost were not crippling. Wood's not progressing, Tanguay was a UFA (and we were all glad to see him go after the year he had), and pick #53 is a shot in the dark anyway. We managed to get a top rental that year for basically expendable pieces, that's really not a bad deal all things considered. It only really has an ugly sheen on it because we had no playoffs to show for it.
I'd say he was responsible for a few of that teams 82 points, even only playing 18 games. Pretty much the lone bright spot down the stretch... If they had made it in over the Wild with 88 points, I'd say he would have been a big part of why they made it. That trade has and will always get way too much hate.
Well, you started from Rendulic, and you started from making the transition for Euro pros easier (below), which is a legitimate concern. You got responded by several posters on a question you made:
Then you started covering bases, as you recognized that part of the argument wasn't worth making.
Now, you had another more relevant point to the Avs actions, which is also a legitimate point. That said, just because people (also other than myself) responded to the specific part in that post, and not your overall point, it doesn't mean you didn't say it. So, have people then misunderstood you, or is it perhaps something else?
I totally get that European professional players might have unrealistic expectations about what life is like in the NHL/AHL, but your second paragraph is what I'm talking about. Frankly, my wonder is why exactly is life in the AHL so much worse than life in European pro leagues? If I ran the Avalanche, I would make it a priority to have every team in the organization run in an extremely classy, professional manner. I'm not suggesting the players need to be pampered, but players coming from European pro leagues shouldn't be experiencing such a huge shock at the treatment they receive.
But how the Avs treat players/prospects that they've given up on is a question/concern that some of us have...even if it isn't entirely unique to the Avs...which is why you'll see some of us talking about this organization's "prospect ADHD" and names like Kyle Wood will get brought up.
The Avs might have been on to something with Wood... I was as big of tire pumper as anybody here, but Wood's skating is so, so far from a NHL level that it looks unlikely that he will ever amount to anything. He's been reduced to a 5/6/7 role in Tucson this year... and it doesn't look any easier for him next year to gain playing time.
I'm a little bit late to this fest, but can't say, I'm very optimistic about, how much of your optimism will remain in a year or two about the kid. I'd be happy to be wrong, but him not being able to make WJC teams and his inability to succeed in the KHL makes me very cautious about his NHL perspectives. He kinda reminds me Rubtsov (I was very sceptical about him as well), but unlike him Shvyrev couldn't even make a WJC team.
Yeah, I know, there are some conspiracy theories around about Shvyrev not being a FHR favorite, but Bragin is a very independent coach, and nobody can dictate him, what players should be on the team and what shouldnt. So it was a pure hockey based decision, and considering, that Bragin prefered tiny Manukyan to big Shvyrev, speaks a lot, knowing, how much Bragin loves gritty players with a mental toughness.
He was supposed to be the Avs late round Russian find!
But it’s funnier with CGF because it’s been my ongoing joke forever.I can be added there too. I really thought his game would translate over, but never could build the trust and simply wasn't a good enough skater to play his game in the AHL. I don't think the Avs failed him with his role as he didn't earn it, but his role certainly didn't help anything. Lesson 5,438 of skating matters in today's NA hockey.
Yup. Gotta love that second pairing of "Russian Nik and French Nic".But it’s funnier with CGF because it’s been my ongoing joke forever.
I still think we will be having a very different conversation when Kovalenko comes over. That's a kid who could be a real gem out of Russia.
I might be talking out of my arse, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Avs draft some Russians whenever the draft occurs. There isn't a high quality one like Svechnikov, but a lot of good potential darkhorses in the later rounds.Hopefully we'll get an opportunity to find out whether Kovalenko can get it done at the NHL level or not. That mini Russian factory they were trying to build is drying up. Both Mironov and Igor left and probably didn't have a great experience. Zadorov and Kamenev may not be long for the organization either. It's all up to Kovalenko and Zhuravlyov now (no offense, Smirnov).