Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Artem Anisimov to PTO

[RockLobster]

It's so hard to say in retrospect, because so much has changed every year. Sakic has got better every year. Either way, having O'Reilly would've made our window was sooner, and does 2016-19 Sakic have enough experience to put together a cup contending team? It would be a vastly different team. Most likely means no Makar, Girard, and Byram. Barrie would probably still be on the team making $7.5 mil+, maybe have Chabot+? (if i'm remembering the Duchene rumours correctly?).

Well yeah, the team is likely very different, but I am not sure Barrie sticks around at that price. I think Barrie is still traded and instead of needing a 2C, he is probably swapped for a wing and possibly a better pick.

I mean as much as I love Makar, Girard, and Byram, I'd take a Cup over all 3. Plus, we just don't know what would have eventually happend with Duchene. I think he still would have been traded, and I believe if they had made the decision to trade him instead of ROR (at the time) that they would have gotten A LOT better of a package for him. Ah well, c'est la vie.

 

[PAZ]

Well yeah, the team is likely very different, but I am not sure Barrie sticks around at that price. I think Barrie is still traded and instead of needing a 2C, he is probably swapped for a wing and possibly a better pick.

I mean as much as I love Makar, Girard, and Byram, I'd take a Cup over all 3. Plus, we just don't know what would have eventually happend with Duchene. I think he still would have been traded, and I believe if they had made the decision to trade him instead of ROR (at the time) that they would have gotten A LOT better of a package for him. Ah well, c'est la vie.

I would make that trade too, but what does out defense look like without those 3? I honestly don't think we had enough assets to win a cup, even with the assets from Duchene. Our defense (assuming he went to Ottawa with Chabot+ coming back). I also don't see an option where we could let Barrie go. Our defense would've be something like:

Chabot - EJ
X - Barrie
X - X

And i'm not sold we would've found the right pieces on defense or depth forwards to push us over the top in time, considering both our amateur and pro scouts had some of the worst results in the league. This was back when we were hoping players like Grigorenko or Andrighetto would be top 6 pieces and were hedging our bets on defense with Weircioch, Gelinas, and Barberio.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Well yeah, the team is likely very different, but I am not sure Barrie sticks around at that price. I think Barrie is still traded and instead of needing a 2C, he is probably swapped for a wing and possibly a better pick.

I mean as much as I love Makar, Girard, and Byram, I'd take a Cup over all 3. Plus, we just don't know what would have eventually happend with Duchene. I think he still would have been traded, and I believe if they had made the decision to trade him instead of ROR (at the time) that they would have gotten A LOT better of a package for him. Ah well, c'est la vie.

Why would keeping ROR guarantee a cup? We don’t suck long enough to Makar in this scenario.

So it’s like saying ROR >>> Makar?

Or am I missing something?

 

[GoNordiquesGo]

We had the shittiest of defense back then... there's no way we would have won a cup with that defense and injury plagued Varly in net.

 

[henchman21]

Purely hypotheticals and doesn't really matter. I just hope the Avs can figure out their center issues before it is too late.

 

[shadow1]

Why would keeping ROR guarantee a cup? We don’t suck long enough to Makar in this scenario.

So it’s like saying ROR >>> Makar?

Or am I missing something?

We had the shittiest of defense back then... there's no way we would have won a cup with that defense and injury plagued Varly in net.

I think the potential was there for Colorado to win a cup, but the fate of the "Duchene-era" Avalanche was sealed a year before the O'Reilly trade thanks to the brutal 2014 off-season.

F: Bordeleau, Cliche, Duchene, Landeskog, MacKinnon, McGinn, McLeod, Mitchell, O'Reilly, Parenteau, Talbot, Tanguay
D: Barrie, Guenin, Hejda, Holden, Johnson
G: Varlamov, Berra
UFA: Stastny

By my count, they had $12.9M heading into that off-season. Instead of keeping using most of that money to fix the defense, or re-signing Stastny and using the remaining $5.9M on a defenseman, they let Stastny walk, traded Parenteau for Briere (no cap savings), and used the cap space Iginla, Redmond, and Stuart. I also want to point out that drafted Conor Bleakley that off-season.

Glass half full, that brutal off-season directly led to drafting Rantanen and indirectly led to drafting Makar.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Purely hypotheticals and doesn't really matter. I just hope the Avs can figure out their center issues before it is too late.

One day Jost will vindicate Sakic. Right?


Right?





Right?







Right?

 

[henchman21]

One day Jost will vindicate Sakic. Right?


Right?





Right?







Right?

Yeah one day that ROR-like work ethic will make him into a top 6 center!







(we just missed that it would be in Switzerland)

 

[Sea Eagles]

I absolutely love this signing, and at 33 could absolutely get back to at least a 40 point season (and easily replace Donskoi). Huge forward (which we need).

I'd actually go:

Landeskog - Mackinnon - Rantanen
Newhook - Kadri - Burakovsky
Jost - Anisimov - Nichushkin
Maltzev - Helm - Compher

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Where Saad goes Anisimov must follow.

 

[Avsboy]

Where Saad goes Anisimov must follow.

From what I've seen Anisimov has a great toolkit around the net. If he literally follows the ghost of Saad and just gets to the front of the net at the right time, I could see him returning to 40 points.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Can he even play in the NHL?



I’m only half kidding.

Update: Nope

 

[Avsboy]

Update: Nope

One preseason game doesn’t say much. I thought he had flashes during the game but he needs a few more chances.

 

[tigervixxxen]

He was incredibly slow in that game, I don’t think it’s gonna work out. I’m sure he’ll get another but if he was really getting a look he should have played Thursday too like JJ did.

 

[Richard88]

He was incredibly slow in that game, I don’t think it’s gonna work out. I’m sure he’ll get another but if he was really getting a look he should have played Thursday too like JJ did.

Anisimov is clearly behind Maltsev and Bowers for that 4C spot one would think, along with possibly Compher if Ranta takes that 3RW spot to knock Compher down to 4C. Not looking very likely for him at this stage, and honestly it would be almost disappointing if we signed him given that it would effectively completely block Bowers.

 

[Balthazar]

Anisimov is clearly behind Maltsev and Bowers for that 4C spot one would think, along with possibly Compher if Ranta takes that 3RW spot to knock Compher down to 4C. Not looking very likely for him at this stage, and honestly it would be almost disappointing if we signed him given that it would effectively completely block Bowers.

I don't think we will. He reminds me of Soda last year; too slow to play center and Bednar ended up not playing him there at all.

 

[willy702]

He's looking like one of those guys you wish you had around if 3 of your NHL regulars got hurt, but that's it. I am really hoping there is some change in philosophy in the org to say if that sort of really bad luck happens we just gotta learn how to handle it with the young resources we got. They won't be as good as the regulars, but they will be better than retreads who waste away on the scratch list or that we pick up at the TDL only to realize hey they are a lot worse than we remember.