Proposal: Avs help Leafs clear space for Pietro

[strictlyrandy]

The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.

Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins

I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.

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[Bond]

Pretty bleh for Toronto. They'd be better off trading Nylander for peanuts

 

[Avs44]

Marner’s an elite winger...4 B-level pieces don’t acquire him.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I think it makes more sense for the Avs to go after Nylander.

 

[Richard88]

No thanks. Our cap situation is amazing right now, no need to throw a grenade on it with Marner's contract.

Only way it's even remotely feasible is if Toronto retains to get his caphit down to about $9m, but that's not going to happen.

If we're "helping" Toronto out then it's Nylander we should go for.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Marner’s an elite winger...4 B-level pieces don’t acquire him.

I think the OP might be assigning value to alleviating Toronto from that contract. Marner is a very talented player but that contract is a heavy cross to bear, especially with all the others.

It's not a good idea for Colorado because you'd have 20 million tied up in RW with other contracts coming up. This is partly why I think something with Nylander makes more sense. I'm not sure I'm in love with Nylander either but he's who I'd prefer.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Newhook would need to be included I think. I'm not sure what the main piece is here(I value 1st/Timmins/Kaut similarly) but whatever it is you can't center a Marner trade around it.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Newhook would need to be included I think. I'm not sure what the main piece is here(I value 1st/Timmins/Kaut similarly) but whatever it is you can't center a Marner trade around it.

If the price on Pietrangelo goes up, you're going to possibly screw yourself over by insisting on Newhook? The proposal was an easy no for a lot of Avs fans as it was suggested in the OP. If you switch someone with Newhook it then becomes crazy talk.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

That offer is trash that could be easily be topped by someone else

 

[Canada4Gold]

If the price on Pietrangelo goes up, you're going to possibly screw yourself over by insisting on Newhook? The proposal was an easy no for a lot of Avs fans as it was suggested in the OP. If you switch someone with Newhook it then becomes crazy talk.

Marner is only owed 700k this year. That's insanely valuable for a lot of teams in a covid world. If that's not that important to the Avs that's fine. But if the leafs needed to move Marner to sign Pietrangelo they could do a lot better than a deal centered around 1st/Timmins/Kaut because of that low 2020 salary.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Marner is only owed 700k this year. That's insanely valuable for a lot of teams in a covid world. If that's not that important to the Avs that's fine. But if the leafs needed to move Marner to sign Pietrangelo they could do a lot better than a deal centered around 1st/Timmins/Kaut because of that low 2020 salary.

Which teams and what would you be expecting from them in return? A lot of teams either don't have the cap space to add Marner or they're in a rebuild so paying Marner over 10 million while they don't have much of a chance at winning doesn't make sense. Look at what's happening around the league with all of these teams trying to cut payroll.

So again, where are these teams that want to give up what you want in order to take on that contract?

 

[hughdreamz]

Lol Sakic signs Pietrangelo and laughs at Leafs’ cap situation

 

[AvroArrow]

The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.

Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins

I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.

My guy just called Marner a cap dump /thread.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Which teams and what would you be expecting from them in return?

Half of the league considering there's been reports of over half the league trying to get salary expenditures to below 75 million. That takes them to the point where Marner's cap hit starts to not even matter which in turn make it all about his 700k which would make him so valuable. I don't know which teams those are because I'm not Kyle Dubas, but you don't take a huge loss on a trade like this. If that's all you'd get you'd rather take a loss on a Nylander trade if you absolutely had to make the room. But I've got a sneaking suspicion if Marner was available it would not be the least bit difficult to trade him for well better than this.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Are we sure that Sakic is a nice enough guy to go out of his way to help the Leafs with this friendly trade offer?

 

[zar]

IF both teams were motivated...

Marner

FOR

Newhook + 1st OR Byram + 1st

 

[cwede]

Colorado can pay a lot less for a guy 70-80% as good.
Avs already have Nate, Rant, Gabe, Kadri, dont need add $10M F.
In flat Cap era moving Marner or Nylander will be harder than Leafs fans hope.
My own view is that the big 4 is what makes these Leafs scary in their own way, and i wouldnt break them up.
If they get to add Petro make room elsewher

 

[Fatass]

Marner isn’t a “cap dump”. Imagine the return for MM if the Leafs retain 2 million per?

 

[Colt55]

Marner’s an elite winger...4 B-level pieces don’t acquire him.

In Mapple leaf land it does... wait thats when they want someone lol

 

[John Mandalorian]

Half of the league considering there's been reports of over half the league trying to get salary expenditures to below 75 million. That takes them to the point where Marner's cap hit starts to not even matter which in turn make it all about his 700k which would make him so valuable. I don't know which teams those are because I'm not Kyle Dubas, but you don't take a huge loss on a trade like this. If that's all you'd get you'd rather take a loss on a Nylander trade if you absolutely had to make the room. But I've got a sneaking suspicion if Marner was available it would not be the least bit difficult to trade him for well better than this.

That's great. But I was talking about the cap hit which would be over 10 million. Many teams cant squeeze this in. On top of that, they're looking to cut payroll (both cash and cap).

So since you're not Kyle Dubas, that means you don't actually know which teams are lining up to give up a ton in assets to take on Marner's contract. You could be right but I'd really like to know who these mystery teams are given what's happening around the league.

 

[nobody]

The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.

Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins

I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.

Counter:

Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: Byram, Newhook, 2020 1st

 

[Martin Skoula]

Marner is due 7 per season in actual cash, he's absolutely not a cap dump lmao. If we trade him after next July 1st (when the actual cap squeeze would be with Rielly/Hyman), he'll be due just over 6 mil a season in cash and will likely be coming off a 90-100 point season.

 

[Headshot77]

My guy just called Marner a cap dump /thread.

Anyone who has an NHL contract is a cap dump now I guess /s

But there is something pretty wrong with league where every team save for about 5 are pressed right up against the cap.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

In Mapple leaf land it does... wait thats when they want someone lol

Did a leaf fan run over your dog ? You are in every thread involving the leafs ragging on them. I think you may be a closet leaf fan.

 

[Djp]

The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.

Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins

I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.

At least it’s not nylander

It’s too much to give up. Kaut was a mid 1st and Colorado is around 20 this year. It’s 1st or Ksut thrn a secondary prospect.