I’d be all over that for the Avs but doubt Dubas does this.The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.
Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins
I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.
The Leafs are in cap trouble and will need space to sign Pietro, Avs have lots of wiggle room and are after another top 6 forward. I feel like they can help each other out.
Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: 2020 1st, Kaut, Compher, Timmins
I know it's a lot to give from the Avs for essentially a cap dump from Toronto but they really need that #1 D and that's quite a haul for them. ELC's are going to be crucial to the Leafs and you have to give to get.
Counter:
Leafs trade: Marner
Avs trade: Byram, Newhook, 2020 1st
That's exactly why Marner would be traded. That's a lot of moves otherwise and then you have to replace a few of those guys.Players like marner and rantanen don't get traded for cap reasons so the entire premise is flawed. The leafs have kerfoot,johnson, dermott, holl, andersen, and nylander to trade if it comes to it. None of those contracts are bad value or cap dumps that can be moved if necessary. 90 point two way wingers that are 23 years old domt get traded to save cap.
The leafs don't need to trade marner or nylander right away. If the sign petro they have this season to see what they can do. If it doesn't work then they trade marner or nylander.That's exactly why Marner would be traded. That's a lot of moves otherwise and then you have to replace a few of those guys.
Like I said, and you're saying...ain't happening anyway.
Fair enough. Your hand may be a bit more forced at that point , but that doesn't seem to stop TML.The leafs don't need to trade marner or nylander right away. If the sign petro they have this season to see what they can do. If it doesn't work then they trade marner or nylander.
His cap hit is $10,893,000, a team needs to have that room or its a no go.
Lol it's not too much to give up. I would take that deal as an Av's fan. Compher is barely worth his salary, the first will probably be quite late, and Kaut likely is only ever a bottom six player. Nice to get his ELC though. Timmins would be a great get for the Leafs as he looks to be a top 4 two way right hand defenceman also on an elc. But yeah I wouldn't do this as a leafs fan.At least it’s not nylander
It’s too much to give up. Kaut was a mid 1st and Colorado is around 20 this year. It’s 1st or Ksut thrn a secondary prospect.
Trading Marner was already crazy talk.If the price on Pietrangelo goes up, you're going to possibly screw yourself over by insisting on Newhook? The proposal was an easy no for a lot of Avs fans as it was suggested in the OP. If you switch someone with Newhook it then becomes crazy talk.
They are at least in the same tier of player.Rantanen is better but that’s beside the point.
In what world is a 90 plus point player a cap dump?
Half of the league considering there's been reports of over half the league trying to get salary expenditures to below 75 million. That takes them to the point where Marner's cap hit starts to not even matter which in turn make it all about his 700k which would make him so valuable. I don't know which teams those are because I'm not Kyle Dubas, but you don't take a huge loss on a trade like this. If that's all you'd get you'd rather take a loss on a Nylander trade if you absolutely had to make the room. But I've got a sneaking suspicion if Marner was available it would not be the least bit difficult to trade him for well better than this.
Anyone who has an NHL contract is a cap dump now I guess /s
But there is something pretty wrong with league where every team save for about 5 are pressed right up against the cap.
Poor asset management. Stop giving out long-term deals, NTC/NMC, or paying players out of ELC $11m+ ... only a handful of teams made that mistake...
Stupid postIn Mapple leaf land it does... wait thats when they want someone lol
We can afford to make an addition up to $6.5m without major changes. Even more so if Cole or someone else is traded.Right now, but don’t they need to have space available pretty soon?
It’s not really like that since Rantanen is better. But that’s beside the point.
The point is, if you say that you don’t want to speculate, you should probably stop short of saying that you can do better. Because in your words, you’re not the gm and wouldn’t know that.
In COVID times, every player is a cap dump and everyone has negative value.This thread and trade proposal by the OP and his condescending tone are the pinnacle of this forum.
Marner a Cap Dump.... Go back to School OP
There are, tops, 5 teams that kid fit Marner's cap hit for 2020-2021. You're as delusional as the Toronto fan base if you think otherwise.
Marner is a good player, but he's overpaid.
Avs say no, easily, and it has nothing to do with Marner the player. They don't need the commitment when they have other guys coming due soon. I don't see a long term deal for Hall. They'd just go for AP.