Rumor: Avs considering Tatar as circle back option [Mod Warning in OP]

[howboutahug]

Dater has been pretty spot on for a few years now.

 

[Papa Francouz]

I think so. He just had 2 career years, he's only 29, and signed to an excellent contract. His value is at an all-time high. Add to that the fact he's the top forward rumored available on a crazy seller market, with many teams looking for a top 6 forward, the value is even higher.

Chris Kreider is the top forward on the market, not Tomas Tatar.

 

[Legend123]

I would trade a 1st and Jost/Kaut

Jost no interest
Kaut yes

 

[Vachon23]

I would trade a 1st and Jost/Kaut

That’s starting to be interesting

 

[Michoulicious]

Chris Kreider is the top forward on the market, not Tomas Tatar.

Yeah, meant 2nd top. My mistake.

 

[HabsMD97]

I saw a facebook post from RDS saying that Bergevin was in Denver to scout. Boy I read the comments. Someone suggested Tatar and Kovy for a 1st, Newhook and Timmins or someone straight up Byram. It was a funny read though. Anyway what does Habs fans expect to get for Tatar?

If he's traded this deadline, a 1st+2nd+a young roster player/good prospect something like a Jost/kaut although I have no interest in getting Jost. I would prefer getting someone like Puljujarvi or Gurianov if it's possible. Basically a slight combination of the Coleman and Tofolli deals since tatar is better than tofolli at a good cap it and has the term of a coleman.

 

[the paisanos guy]

I'm sorry but this has to be the fifth thread about the Habs dealing with colorado and in every single one it is drenched with insane proposals for the avs top prospects lol. Already see where this is going as Timmins name is getting tossed around with a first. Isn't happening.

well what would you like to pay for a top-line guy? 5th round picks?

 

[Michoulicious]

That’s starting to be interesting

Jost is of NO INTEREST. None.

 

[Avaholic29]

well what would you like to pay for a top-line guy? 5th round picks?

Kaut and a first will be the basis of any of these trades. Timmins, newhook and Byram aren't going anywhere and that's been proven and said multiple times by avs management

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I would trade a 1st and Jost/Kaut

I would assume Kaut is worth more than Jost ?

We want MacKinnon @/ 50% retained.

Or a 1st prospect and a meh player..

 

[MasterMatt25]

I would assume Kaut is worth more than Jost ?

We want MacKinnon @/ 50% retained.

Or a 1st prospect and a meh player..

 

[frapp10]

Since Coleman got an A prospect + a first then the return at the minimum is Newhook and a 1st, I’d say add something else too. I know Coleman is cheap at 1.8m but if we retain 50% then I’d said Tatar is far more valuable at 2.4m

 

[howboutahug]

Haefele with the names he’s heard

 

[Henkka]

Since Coleman got an A prospect + a first then the return at the minimum is Newhook and a 1st, I’d say add something else too. I know Coleman is cheap at 1.8m but if we retain 50% then I’d said Tatar is far more valuable at 2.4m

There's no need to retain. Avs have cap space, and of course on that case they like to go with lower value with no retain.

 

[tucker3434]

Since Coleman got an A prospect + a first then the return at the minimum is Newhook and a 1st, I’d say add something else too. I know Coleman is cheap at 1.8m but if we retain 50% then I’d said Tatar is far more valuable at 2.4m

Yeah, nah.

 

[Avsboy]

Newhook is one of the top prospects in hockey, he's vastly better than Foote. Byram is even better. Those two are completely untouchable.

 

[Vachon23]

Jost is of NO INTEREST. None.

but I do have interest in Kaut

 

[ImJustJokinen]

Mack? No way man. You can let imjustjokinen spit in Bergevins face and he still wouldnt take Tatar for free. Especially for not Puljujarvi who is the next MacKinnon.

hahaha I'm just bustin your balls man, it ain't that deep

 

[Vijo Morganstein]

Newhook and a 1st is definitely pushing it. I think if anything does happen, Timmins and a 1st makes the most sense. I know fans think Timmins should be off limits, but it seems Colorado has the depth to offset losing him.

Really all depends on what happens with Kreider, but I think if Timmins or Newhook aren't part of the package coming back, Montreal will look elsewhere.

We'll see though, Bergevin has never traded for a 1st, even in his big trades he targets young talent rather than high picks.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Blake Coleman makes $3m less for the same amount of term. That's far more valuable to a contending team up against the cap than even Tatar at 50% retained. He also PKs at an elite level and is one of the quickest skaters in the NHL.

Ya no. Your not convincing anyone that a 3rd liner being paid 1.8 M is worth more than a top line forward being paid 2.65 M.

 

[HabsMD97]

I know the market is bananas right now, but do you really expect a guy like Tatar to command a bigger return than he has in his last 2 trades? That’s just not going to happen (and no it doesn’t matter that you guys flipped Scandella for a bigger return than you got him for).

in the same post you managed to say you can't get a bigger package than what you paid for and then pointing out the fact that it happened an hour ago by the same gm and saying that doesn't count (for who knows what reason) that is a very interesting analysis.

 

[Papa Francouz]

Ya no. Your not convincing anyone that a 3rd liner being paid 1.8 M is worth more than a top line forward being paid 2.65 M.

Whatever you say. The market dictated Coleman’s value and it will dictate Tatar’s. Newhook, Byram, and Timmins didn’t go for a superstar in Hall, so I highly, highly doubt they go for a lesser player in Tatar.

 

[SamHabsFan]

Blake Coleman makes $3m less for the same amount of term. That's far more valuable to a contending team up against the cap than even Tatar at 50% retained. He also PKs at an elite level and is one of the quickest skaters in the NHL.

Although I do agree with Coleman's qualities that you just stated, but if you implied that he has more value, or that he add more value to a team than Tatar I strongly disagree. the difference in salary is not big enough for the difference in the quality of the player..Tatar's not making 9 mil..

 

[koyvoo]

Thing is with Tatar is that he doesn’t need to go at rental prices. If the Habs are being offered a 2nd and middling prospect at best, they can get that at next years deadline as well.

Anyway, if a trade does happen, one way or the other this thread will be fun to reread. And I’m sure that no matter which way it goes, nobody who is posting so assuredly will take a step back and say- “maybe it’s time I stop thinking I know what NHL execs are thinking and how they value their assets”.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Ya no. Your not convincing anyone that a 3rd liner being paid 1.8 M is worth more than a top line forward being paid 2.65 M.

When that 3rd line forward has as many goals and brings things Tatar doesn't, absolutely