Rumor: Avs and Rantanen have had no negotiations
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No, I’m saying I’m not sympathetic over an extra million or so dollars when these players are going to be making hand over fist anyway. I will concede that rantanen could be in that 9-10 million range, but if a player wants to go straight to ufa, why should the gm concede on AAV as well then? What’s the point in drafting and developing in that case?
First off, I'd guess they're fighting over more than a million dollars, although none of actually know what the offer or ask are. I think it's likely that Rantanen wants $10.5 - $11 million, while the Avs want to give him Aho's contract. That's a huge difference. Second, I already pointed out that the Avs got 3 cheap years of high production from Rantanen, drafting and developing is the cost of doing business.
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I don’t believe they are the ones, I think it’s Point.
If Sakic and the agent are waiting for the market then it makes sense to me they have nothing to talk about now. They just better get it resolved by camp one way or another.
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Yeah, Joe doesn't rush through much...and star-negotiations certainly fall under that umbrella as well.
Lowkey expecting Mikko to miss some (if not all) of camp if Marner doesn't sign before then to give Mikko the kind of comparable he wants. My guess is they end up around 5 years 48M whenever it's all said n done.
Lowkey expecting Mikko to miss some (if not all) of camp if Marner doesn't sign before then to give Mikko the kind of comparable he wants. My guess is they end up around 5 years 48M whenever it's all said n done.
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Eh, if Point takes a bridge deal, that won't be a satisfying comp for any of the other big RFAs.
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I think it's any of the big names as none have signed without an offersheet. Once the first falls, the others will start to.
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The GMs should sit these players for the year. Dubas should have made an example of Nylander yet here we are. Millionaires fighting Billionaires while fans is certain markets struggle to afford tickets and those teams prop up the lame duck franchises. Pro sports is getting old
We're talking about GMs that wait until 2:55 on trade deadline day to make their first move of the season. This shouldn't surprise anyone and I doubt he's the only RFA that has had minimal or no contract talks so far. Why would they? They'll all wait until the 11th hour for someone to sign and set the market. In the end these players will get paid exactly what everyone has speculated for the last 8 months.
Does this mean that Martin Kaut makes the team? I am thinking about him as a sleeper pick in a fantasy league. j/k
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Sakic said Rantanen will crack any second. Purple monkey dishwasher.
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Everyone complaining about RFAs needing to not be greedy. They have been underpaid forever. These guys are giving their prime playing years right now. They don't have the same leverage as UFAs so they are using the leverage they do have. I don't want to hear that they need to put in their time in the league before they get paid. The business is cut throat to players (you get injured or decline around 30 good luck getting paid). So you have to look after yourself. Also this is coming from an Avs fan who would love to see Mikko on a great deal.
Fans are hypocrites. They want team friendly deals for their rfas. Then when they hit ufa and get paid they say that the player is overpaid. Well, of course especially if they sign away ufa years during their rfa negotiations. Rantanen can be ufa at 26, but if he signs away 2 ufa years he’s ufa at 28. Meaning a max term deal at 28 takes him to 36, likely meaning a year or two of declining years.
Brian Burke was like that when he commented on the stone deal with LV. Didn’t like the term as it took him to age 35. But as a guy who came into the nhl at 20, he hit ufa at the earliest possible time at 27.
Plenty of the big rfas have not signed. Not a huge issue. The players whose the teams need to make the playoffs gain leverage the closer we get to the season. Guys like Marner and Point won’t gain leverage as their teams are good enough without them to qualify but it does cause issues with a higher cap charge this season as we saw with nylander last year.
Yeah, they're all waiting on each other and potentially hurting their team. They don't give a s*** if they're ill-prepared for the beginning of the season because they held out during training camp so long as they get what they want. It's vexing. It's like a couple fighting because they both want the covers for themselves.
The worst though is when a player takes less money (see Labanc) and the NHLPA bitches and whines about it. F*** 'em! It's HIS contract, HIS money and HIS future, he can do whatever the hell he wants with it, especially when his intentions are team-centric.
Well, that’s what Dubas gave Matthews so now everyone thinks they should get that.
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