Auston Matthews Thread

[Rants Mulliniks]

Drai would be nothing without McDavid

Drai is a very good player but to compare him to Matthews would require him actually playing the same position with the same responsibilities.

 

[rumman]

Criminal charges dismissed Auston Matthews’ disorderly conduct charge dismissed | The Star

hopefully with this behind him he can focus on hockey.

 

[Erdinger]

hopefully with this behind him he can focus on hockey.

Wonder how much that cost to go away? $100K minimum I would say. So about 2 periods worth

 

[ULF_55]

hopefully with this behind him he can focus on hockey.

IMO, it always was about money.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Drai is a very good player but to compare him to Matthews would require him actually playing the same position with the same responsibilities.

That's not the Marner camp school of thought

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Unreasonable expectations sounds like your issue, not his.

It's not my contract that is unreasonable. It's his.

And unreasonable contracts come with unreasonable expectations.

He hasn't been nearly good enough considering his contract. This is precisely how it works. A players performance is weighed against their contract. Always has been.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Matthews is awesome and anyone picking on little things are trolls. This guy is so good it is ridiculous! Not saying he is perfect but he leads all centers in goals, is the best of the best centers on faceoffs, climbing up the league scoring ladder with linemates that have struggles at certain points in the first 20 games.

I wouldn’t trade him straight up for McDavid and he will prove me right on that statement. Is best shot in the league easily. People stop posting on here because posters actually find things to complain about in mean,negative ways against Matthews. He is completely deadly and the only flaw is his confidence in his talent leads him coast at times.

The work ethic has come back lately and i wonder just how deadly he will be the next 20 games. He could be pounts and goals leader in the entire league at the 40 game mark if Willy and Johnny keep up the better/ more consistent play they are showing recently.

Complaints about him are funny to me. They make no sense in his overall game whatsoever!

Agreed top 10 in league in points, goals, +/-, face offs and puck possession. He is an all world player. I would only consider trading him for either MAC or McJesus. No one else. Not even 4 1st rounders. It is not nearly enough. All we need to do is give him a big tough left wing who can skate and get more pucks for him. Put Wilson on Toronto and you could start to plan the parade.

 

[ULF_55]

That's not the Marner camp school of though

I'm not sure who is the center when Draisaitl and McDavid are out together.

Draisaitl is number 1 for face-offs on the Oilers, McDavid is 4th.
PP FO: Draisaitl 85, McDavid 7

I think Draisaitl is more the center on their line, except for glory.

Matthews is definitely, a center.

 

[shaner82]

It's not my contract that is unreasonable. It's his.

And unreasonable contracts come with unreasonable expectations.

He hasn't been nearly good enough considering his contract. This is precisely how it works. A players performance is weighed against their contract. Always has been.

They're only your expectations, those aren't the expectations of most people.
Matthews didn't hold out. He didn't refuse to report for training camp. He agreed to a deal the team offered him.
Should he have said no?

The art of negotiation is to ask for the world and settle for much less. He obviously asked for a lot and the team agreed. The team was under no pressure to do so as it was the middle of the season and time was not an issue. What exactly did Matthews do wrong?

We have one of the most talented players in the league and yet this fan base wants to shit on the guy. What is wrong with Leafs fans?

 

[Throw More Waffles]

They're only your expectations, those aren't the expectations of most people.
Matthews didn't hold out. He didn't refuse to report for training camp. He agreed to a deal the team offered him.
Should he have said no?

The art of negotiation is to ask for the world and settle for much less. He obviously asked for a lot and the team agreed. The team was under no pressure to do so as it was the middle of the season and time was not an issue. What exactly did Matthews do wrong?

We have one of the most talented players in the league and yet this fan base wants to **** on the guy. What is wrong with Leafs fans?

I don’t care about any of what you just said.

His contract is outrageous, so my expectations are outrageous. Yours should be as well.
For the players that have fair contracts, my expectations are fair.

 

[shaner82]

I don’t care about any of what you just said.

His contract is outrageous, so my expectations are outrageous. Yours should be as well.
For the players that have fair contracts, my expectations are fair.

Most people are sane, rational and logical.

The good thing is now I know what to expect of your posts and I will just ignore them in the future, as they carry no weight with me and they shouldn't carry weight with anyone else either.

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

Most people are sane, rational and logical.

The good thing is now I know what to expect of your posts and I will just ignore them in the future, as they carry no weight with me and they shouldn't carry weight with anyone else either.

You know you're going to get a thoughtful and insightful post when the first sentence is "I don't care about any of what you said."

Really makes it easy to skip over everything else.

 

[Legion34]

It's not my contract that is unreasonable. It's his.

And unreasonable contracts come with unreasonable expectations.

He hasn't been nearly good enough considering his contract. This is precisely how it works. A players performance is weighed against their contract. Always has been.

Who decides that your contract is not unreasonable......


You?

 

[Throw More Waffles]

You know you're going to get a thoughtful and insightful post when the first sentence is "I don't care about any of what you said."

Really makes it easy to skip over everything else.

Are you actually trying to claim that a players contract doesn’t affect expectations of that player in the slightest?

Is that really what’s happening here?

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

Are you actually trying to claim that a players contract doesn’t affect expectations of that player in the slightest?

Is that really what’s happening here?

Nope.

You quoted my post - where does it say that?

Are you actually trying to attribute a line of thought to me that I never once typed or said?

Is that really what's happening here?

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Nope.

You quoted my post - where does it say that?

Are you actually trying to attribute a line of thought to me that I never once typed or said?

Is that really what's happening here?

I meant to reply to Shaners post.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Agreed top 10 in league in points, goals, +/-, face offs and puck possession. He is an all world player. I would only consider trading him for either MAC or McJesus. No one else. Not even 4 1st rounders. It is not nearly enough. All we need to do is give him a big tough left wing who can skate and get more pucks for him. Put Wilson on Toronto and you could start to plan the parade.

Hello Korshkov?

Korshkov-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner

 

[rumman]

Hello Korshkov?

Korshkov-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner

it's a nice thought................

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Hello Korshkov?

Korshkov-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner

Maybe ... worth a shot ... certainty a big body with limited skill who is a decent skater. But I have not seen the tenacious play in corners and boards from him yet. He needs to go get puck. and he needs to play a little meaner.

 

[Stamkos4life]

Matthews is on pace for 53 goals, 107 points and while currently in a cold stretch goal wise, is still getting 5-10 shots a game while dominating 5 on 5 play with Nylander. That would be the 2nd most goals, and 4th most points all time in a season for this team...

Why are we complaining about him exactly? Maybe the rest of the roster should step it up a bit.

Last year at the 21 game mark Matthew's had 19 goals and 33 points in his first 21 games. Over an 82 game season that would be 74 goals and 128 points.

By the end of the year, his pace fell to 44 goals and 88 points.

If auston finishes this season with over 100 points, I'll change my username to "Matthewsisthegreatest" or something along the lines.

 

[Stamkos4life]

It ok to be a homer but my guess is that someone who thinks they are equal in value just doesnt watch McDavid enough. Dont get me wrong. AM has a very unique release and he is definitely a high end elite player. McDavid on the other hand does things I cant even understand like cross overs from his heels and scissor twists from his hips that make him the most deceptive skater in determining direction that I have ever seen. Not ready to give him goat status yet but Jesus...he is the epitome of generational player definition.

Well said.

Like you mentioned, Mcdavid does things that leaves me in complete awe. He scores goals and makes moves that I never thought were possible.

One just has to look to last nights game vs the aves. Guy had 6 points and was a complete monster out there.

 

[Menzinger]

Matthews is on pace for 53 goals, 107 points and while currently in a cold stretch goal wise, is still getting 5-10 shots a game while dominating 5 on 5 play with Nylander. That would be the 2nd most goals, and 4th most points all time in a season for this team...

Why are we complaining about him exactly? Maybe the rest of the roster should step it up a bit.

I don't know either.

There are parts of his game he can still improve - but his line is one of the gew bright spots on the team.

We spent half a decade pretending Bozam was a 1C, folks just just relax a bit as we have not only that, but one whose one of the top goal scorers in the NHL.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

it's a nice thought................

Not suggesting he's ready today but might be what the doctor ordered.

Third line maybe Johnsson-Kerfoot-Mikheyev (if we can afford him).

Kapanen trade bait for D?

Then we've got guys like Engvall, Marchment (assuming he gets back to form) etc. that can come in for cheap going forward.

 

[rumman]

Not suggesting he's ready today but might be what the doctor ordered.

Third line maybe Johnsson-Kerfoot-Mikheyev (if we can afford him).

Kapanen trade bait for D?

Then we've got guys like Engvall, Marchment (assuming he gets back to form) etc. that can come in for cheap going forward.

with the surprised Soupman's play, I'm just curious to see if his comrade can bring it too.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Lol oh boy....

whats the difference really! He is right there with McDavid. Its just a sideways move really lol. Nothing wrong with being completely content with the grass on this side the fence is there ha!