Auston Matthews Discussion Thread

[Dekes For Days]

Do you honestly think these guys have not gotten better over the last couple of years?

Two things are simultaneously true.

1. They are better now than they were in previous years.
2. They were better in previous years than you think.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I don't really understand the outrage. It was not a dirty hit, it might have been a tad bit late but Matthews shot created a rebound that went right by both Matthews and Andersson. He likely didn't want Matthews pouncing on that rebound.

He gave Matthews a shove into the boards from behind with his stick in his skates. It was pretty dirty.

 

[horner]

They've been like this since the Tucker/Roberts/Domi days. Seriously, I can remember one incident of a Leaf stepping in and fighting for a teammate in 15 years (Clarkson leaving the bench).

Man I miss those days.
Clark, tiger Williams
Oldie but Goody Eddie Shack
If there was nothing going on in the game they would try and wake up there team.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Matthews broken?

not playing tomorrow?

 

[Stephen]

Matthews broken?

not playing tomorrow?

My very uneducated, no inside sources guess is Matthews could miss a couple of games based on the way Andersen's "day to day" seems to be stretching into a week to week. But let's hope for the best.

 

[kevsh]

I didn't scan the last few pages to see if anyone else has pointed this out, but right now Matthews has the same amount of ES points as Connor in 2 less games played. (Matthews *only* has 9 PP points this year - surprising as the Leafs power play has been lethal up until the last two games - vs. 18 from McDavid)

I don't think anyone would have taken a prop bet that this year they'd even be close. Still a long way to go and of course that really only proves two things: Matthews is an ES beast, while McDavid is a beast at ES and the PP.

 

[Sypher04]

I didn't scan the last few pages to see if anyone else has pointed this out, but right now Matthews has the same amount of ES points as Connor in 2 less games played. (Matthews *only* has 9 PP points this year - surprising as the Leafs power play has been lethal up until the last two games - vs. 18 from McDavid)

I don't think anyone would have taken a prop bet that this year they'd even be close. Still a long way to go and of course that really only proves two things: Matthews is an ES beast, while McDavid is a beast at ES and the PP.

The powerplay production gap can be, more or less, explained away by powerplay time

 

[MattySnipes]

 

[Stephen]

Yeah could see that coming from a mile away. Leafs have been coy about medium scale injuries.

 

[Menzinger]

My very uneducated, no inside sources guess is Matthews could miss a couple of games based on the way Andersen's "day to day" seems to be stretching into a week to week. But let's hope for the best.

Reading between the lines of some statements he could probably play at like 70% his normal level.

But I'd rather not risk it so am happy theyre being cautious for a game or two

 

[Stephen]

Reading between the lines of some statements he could probably play at like 70% his normal level.

But I'd rather not risk it so am happy theyre being cautious for a game or two

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Rasmus Andersson hurt his wrist badly but they don’t want to single out an incident and a risk having other teams key in on his injury.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Meh we all know we need him healthy for when it counts in the playoffs. Don't work him too hard over the next couple of weeks, and use the two 5 day breaks to get him 100% healthy.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I'd be okay sitting him next game too. We can afford it with our lead in the standings and with players starting to come back.

 

[Stephen]

My enthusiasm level for a Leafs game takes a bit of a hit whenever 34 isn’t playing. Less of a buzz. Especially in what would have been a marquee showdown.

 

[Pucklington]

Oiler fan here - Sucks Matthews is out. Sucks that he might be dealing with a nagging issues this season.

Hope to see him come back healthy and this is minor. Would like to see him break the 50 goal mark. NHL is better when Canadian teams are contenders for a Stanley cup.

Most disappointing that it won't be best on best tonight, as the whole league suffers.

 

[Mats13]

Leafs games get way less exciting when he’s not playing

 

[Teeder Keon]

Oiler fan here - Sucks Matthews is out. Sucks that he might be dealing with a nagging issues this season.

Hope to see him come back healthy and this is minor. Would like to see him break the 50 goal mark. NHL is better when Canadian teams are contenders for a Stanley cup.

Most disappointing that it won't be best on best tonight, as the whole league suffers.

Go Fogolin yourself lololol just kidding , couldn’t resist

 

[zeke]

Since Matthews entered the league.

Even Strength

Goals per 60min

1. Matthews 1.57 (PP 3.38)
2. Ovechkin 1.26 (PP 2.91)
3. Kucherov 1.25 (PP 2.38)
4. Marchand 1.24 (PP 2.14)
4. Pastrnak 1.24 (PP 3.77)

Primary Points per 60min

1. McDavid 2.38 (PP 5.14)
2. Matthews 2.31 (PP 5.12)
3. Stamkos 2.29 (PP 5.99)
4. Kucherov 2.22 (PP 5.62)
5. Marchand 2.20 (PP 4.20)
5. Malkin 2.20 (PP 4.49)

Points per 60min

1. McDavid 3.02 (PP 7.47)
2. Kucherov 2.97 (PP 7.89)
3. Stamkos 2.86 (PP 7.47)
4. Marchand 2.82 (PP 6.95)
5. Malkin 2.73 (PP 6.83)
6. Panarin 2.68 (PP 5.06)
7. Matthews 2.65 (PP 6.62)
8. Pastrnak 2.61 (PP 7.59)
9. Draisaitl 2.61 (PP 6.67)
10. Kane 2.58 (PP 5.38)


Since Matthews is the only listed here whose rookie year is included, here's what happens when we start in 17-18, his 2nd year:

Goals per 60min

1. Matthews 1.59 (PP 3.62)
2. Ovechkin 1.41 (PP 2.78)
3. Kucherov 1.34 (PP 1.99)
4. Gallagher 1.31 (PP 1.52)
5. Pastrnak 1.28 (PP 3.96)

Primary Points Per 60min

1. Matthews 2.40 (PP 5.13)
2. McDavid 2.38 (PP 5.64)
3. Kucherov 2.34 (PP 5.53)
4. Marchand 2.29 (PP 4.35)
5. Pastrnak 2.29 (PP 6.14)

Points per 60min

1. Kucherov 3.15 (PP 8.03)
2. McDavid 3.04 (PP 7.80)
3. Marchand 2.93 (PP 6.99)
4. Stamkos 2.84 (PP 7.46)
5. Panarin 2.82 (PP 5.40)
6. Matthews 2.79 (PP 6.64)
7. Pastrnak 2.75 (PP 7.69)
8. Draisaitl 2.74 (PP 6.62)
9. MacKinnon 2.66 (PP 6.77)
10. Malkin 2.65 (PP 7.06)

 

[Teeder Keon]

Since Matthews entered the league.

Even Strength

Goals per 60min

1. Matthews 1.57 (PP 3.38)
2. Ovechkin 1.26 (PP 2.91)
3. Kucherov 1.25 (PP 2.38)
4. Marchand 1.24 (PP 2.14)
4. Pastrnak 1.24 (PP 3.77)

Primary Points per 60min

1. McDavid 2.38 (PP 5.14)
2. Matthews 2.31 (PP 5.12)
3. Stamkos 2.29 (PP 5.99)
4. Kucherov 2.22 (PP 5.62)
5. Marchand 2.20 (PP 4.20)
5. Malkin 2.20 (PP 4.49)

Points per 60min

1. McDavid 3.02 (PP 7.47)
2. Kucherov 2.97 (PP 7.89)
3. Stamkos 2.86 (PP 7.47)
4. Marchand 2.82 (PP 6.95)
5. Malkin 2.73 (PP 6.83)
6. Panarin 2.68 (PP 5.06)
7. Matthews 2.65 (PP 6.62)
8. Pastrnak 2.61 (PP 7.59)
9. Draisaitl 2.61 (PP 6.67)
10. Kane 2.58 (PP 5.38)


Since Matthews is the only listed here whose rookie year is included, here's what happens when we start in 17-18, his 2nd year:

1. Matthews 1.59 (PP 3.62)
2. Ovechkin 1.41 (PP 2.78)
3. Kucherov 1.34 (PP 1.99)
4. Gallagher 1.31 (PP 1.52)
5. Pastrnak 1.28 (PP 3.96)

Primary Points Per 60min

1. Matthews 2.40 (PP 5.13)
2. McDavid 2.38 (PP 5.64)
3. Kucherov 2.34 (PP 5.53)
4. Marchand 2.29 (PP 4.35)
5. Pastrnak 2.29 (PP 6.14)

Points per 60min

1. Kucherov 3.15 (PP 8.03)
2. McDavid 3.04 (PP 7.80)
3. Marchand 2.93 (PP 6.99)
4. Stamkos 2.84 (PP 7.46)
5. Panarin 2.82 (PP 5.40)
6. Matthews 2.79 (PP 6.64)
7. Pastrnak 2.75 (PP 7.69)
8. Draisaitl 2.74 (PP 6.62)
9. MacKinnon 2.66 (PP 6.77)
10. Malkin 2.65 (PP 7.06)

Good work Zeke
Too much info for me , but great work never the less

 

[Le Cobra]

Meh we all know we need him healthy for when it counts in the playoffs. Don't work him too hard over the next couple of weeks, and use the two 5 day breaks to get him 100% healthy.

Getting flashbacks of Kawhi and load management. Get well soon Big Papi

 

[Le Cobra]

My enthusiasm level for a Leafs game takes a bit of a hit whenever 34 isn’t playing. Less of a buzz. Especially in what would have been a marquee showdown.

idk when I see Campbell in net my excitement is 100%

 

[The Iceman]

They've been like this since the Tucker/Roberts/Domi days. Seriously, I can remember one incident of a Leaf stepping in and fighting for a teammate in 15 years (Clarkson leaving the bench).

Guess you skipped the 13-14 season when we had Orr and McLaren on the 4th line.

 

[The Iceman]

But getting back to Matthews.

Matthew vs McDavid Hart trophy race update.
Zero points for either superstar the last 2 games

 

[IPS]

Would enjoy these wins a little more if Matthews was in

Hopefully that wrist gets sorted soon, Keefe says they're waiting for "the strength in his wrist to come back" and how it's a "different situation than before" whatever the hell that means.

 

[Le Cobra]

Imagine being tbe Oilers right now getting owned by Matthews-less Leafs