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Everyone pledged to make it fit? That's quite something ..
Nylander's agent didn't get the memo apparently.....
Everyone pledged to make it fit? That's quite something ..
Which is what I said. Poster was making it seem like Nylander had offer sheets as some sort of bargaining chip or something.Clearly
Issue being, the players are substantially tied down by agents, who essentially don't give a crap about the team and making the cap fit.
No player is going to fire their agent in the middle of negotiationsSee the thing is... it doesn't matter if the agent disagrees with what the player wants or signs. If he doesn't like it that much he can be fired and replaced with someone who mesh's better with what the player wants. And make nothing.
There is nothing substancial about it.
where did i here M&M wanted 12.5 and 10 ?
obviously the same media which speculated Willie's holding out for 8 that everyone had to problem believing so why shouldn't we also believe the numbers coming from them about M&M ?
No player is going to fire their agent in the middle of negotiations
One-on-one with Leafs GM Kyle Dubas: On Babcock, offer...
This part stood out to me the most
Q: Speaking of some of those younger players. Isn’t it a risk to wait on extensions for Auston and Mitch given their potential this year?
A: Well, I think every day that they go unsigned and then every night that they perform to their potential there’s going to be angst. And we’ve had excellent discussions with Darren Ferris on Mitch and Judd Moldaver on Auston. It’s everybody’s ambition to continue to work towards deals that will keep them here, we hope, for their entire careers. That remains our ambition, what we’re working towards. It’s not a ploy by us to say, “Ah, we’ll wait and see how they do for the year.” I think we like them a lot and they like being here. They’re complex decisions and the circumstances here, with the salary cap being a hard cap, they’re not just simple discussions. We have to make it all fit. The players have all pledged that they want to make it all fit. Now it’s just working towards something that is fair, and that they don’t get into it a year and think, “Well, what did I do?” And vice-versa for us. So it’s been a good process with all of them, with their families, with their representatives, and we’ll just continue to work towards it during the season. And obviously we’d like to have deals as soon as we can, but I also recognize that they’re big-time decisions for everybody — the organization, the players — and they take time.
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With all the anxiety of signing these guys, I think it's awesome to know that everyone knows they have to maybe take a discount to keep everyone.
If an agent is not doing what a player wants, the player will fire them. Agents have zero power to dictate how a player wants to handle a negotiation. They work FOR the player. Their job is to serve their client.No player is going to fire their agent in the middle of negotiations
You have it exactly backwards.
I diasgree. Teams would submit an offer sheet if they have interest in a player. Nylander could accept or reject them. We have no evidence of either.he's right. the player has to accept the offer sheet. If Nylander says he will not accept any offer sheets, then none will be offered. its that simple.
That's how it should work but not all players are astute educated business people and rely heavily on the agents intellect come contract negotiations to get them the best possible deal they could get representing them. This is where agents become the snakes in the business. Manipulation comes in many different forms. Athletes most of them play there specific sport and hire an agent to take care of the business side and trust what the agent tells them the call or play is on that front.If an agent is not doing what a player wants, the player will fire them. Agents have zero power to dictate how a player wants to handle a negotiation. They work FOR the player. Their job is to serve their client.
Additionally, if an agent “bullies” a player into holding out and then can’t deliver on getting contract money up, you can bet that agent’s rep is going to suffer.
This is Nylander’s call. The agent does nothing but handle the negotiations, relay back to the player and does what the player instructs them to do.
That's how it should work but not all players are astute educated business people and rely heavily on the agents intellect come contract negotiations to get them the best possible deal they could get representing them. This is where agents become the snakes in the business. Manipulation comes in many different forms. Athletes most of them play there specific sport and hire an agent to take care of the business side and trust what the agent tells them the call or play is on that front.
Dubas is so well spoken and articulate, yet he comes across as a little smug to me. LOL
But i think now what's going to happen is they're all going to be delayed on signing and leafs will move marleau and horton contract (ie costing us picks/assets) next year more thinking towards when everyone else needs larger contracts
Nope, NMC.
yeah, and? think of this year as his last year. People keep thinking he's going to keep playing but i dunno.... contract was structured to get him more money but also structured to dump him on year 3
We'll see. He doesn't look like he's on his last leg and he's on the hunt for a cup. Can't see him walking away from that.
I diasgree. Teams would submit an offer sheet if they have interest in a player. Nylander could accept or reject them. We have no evidence of either.
Absolutely.We would have evidence if he accepts an offer sheet. It would be made public.